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Old 05-09-2007, 01:53 PM   #201 (permalink)
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if there's any credibility in what some of our rabid allahwallahs would have the brainless believe, gitmo is a conversion depot, bad muslims go in and good muslim terrorists come out.
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World should brace for possible war over Iran: France

The world should brace for a possible war over the Iranian nuclear crisis but seeking a solution through talks should take priority, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said on Sunday.

"We have to prepare for the worst, and the worst is war," he said in an interview broadcast on French television and radio.

So...the ball's in Ahmadinejawhackjob's court, eh?
Simple - give up the Nuke program or you're history...

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Interesting analysis now going on about the effects on stock markets and oil prices if a war breaks out.

Better get the old bike out and oil the chain...
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World should brace for possible war over Iran: France

The world should brace for a possible war over the Iranian nuclear crisis but seeking a solution through talks should take priority, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said on Sunday.

"We have to prepare for the worst, and the worst is war," he said in an interview broadcast on French television and radio...

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That's the daftest most irresponsible statement I have heard from a career politician - as opposed to the 3rd world ersatz variety - in a long while....'the worst is war'?

And this in reference to a country whose leader is a loose canon Islamic extremist that has the Western world by the balls - not with his oil, which at a pinch can be obtained elsewhere, but at the thought of his battalions of dedicated suicidal maniacs that would happily buy one way plane tickets to every world capital.

The whackjob would relish destabilising the world, nothing profound there, and quite aside from the logistical impossibility of invading Iran that statement demeans the intellectual capacity of his audience, which in this case is global. Oh, missed it, he's French.
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600 Iranian missiles said to be pointed at targets in Israel

Six hundred Iranian Shihab-3 missiles are pointed at targets throughout Israel, and will be launched if either Iran or Syria are attacked, an Iranian website affiliated with the regime reported on Monday.

Behind a poster of Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reading: "Missile maneuver of the Great Prophet," Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards tests the long-range Shihab-3 missile in a central desert area of Iran.

"Iran will shoot at Israel 600 missiles if it is attacked," the Iranian news website, Assar Iran, reported. "600 missiles will only be the first reaction."

According to the report, dozens of locations throughout Iraq, which are being used by the US Army, have also been targeted.

The Shihab missile has a range of 1,300 km, and can reach anywhere in Israel.
On Sunday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said that the nuclear Iranian crisis forces the world "to prepare for the worst," and said that in this case it "is war."
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Shahab-3B

The Shahab-3B differs from the basic production variant. It has improvements to its guidance system and warhead, a few small changes on the missile body, and a new re-entry vehicle whose terminal guidance system and rocket-nozzle steering method are completely different from the Shahab-3A's spin-stabilized re-entry vehicle.

The new re-entry vehicle uses a triconic aeroshell geometry (or 'baby bottle' design) which improves the overall lift to drag ratio for the re-entry vehicle. This allows greater range maneuverability which can result in better precision. The triconic design also reduces the overall size of the warhead from an estimated one metric tonne to 700 kg.

The rocket-nozzle control system allows the missile to change its trajectory several times during re-entry and even terminal phase, effectively preventing pre-calculated intercept points of radar systems - which is a method nearly all ABM systems use these days. As a high-speed ballistic missile and pre-mission fuelling capability, the Shahab-3 has an extremely short launch/impact time ratio. This means that the
INS/gyroscope guidance would also remain relatively accurate until impact (important, given the fact that the gyrosopes tend to become inaccurate the longer the flight lasts). With that guidance system, the Shahab-3B could achieve an accuracy of around 30-50m CEP or even less. The Iranians have already proved of developing even more precise systems - their Fateh-110 missiles have an electro-optical terminal guidance system. Shahab-3B is not known of having anything similar, but should be fully dependent on INS and, probably, GPS.

These improvements would increase the Shahab-3B's survivability against ABM systems such as Israel's Arrow-2 as well as being used for precision attacks against high value targets such as command, control and communications centres.

Shahab-3C & D

Little is known about Shahab-3C and Shahab-3D. From what can be gathered, the missiles have an improved precision, navigation system, and a longer range. The missiles were indigenously developed, and are being mass produced.



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The Shahab-3 was first seen in public on September 25, 1998, in Azadi Square, Tehran in a parade
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aside from the logistical impossibility of invading Iran
Come again?
Ferget about them B-1 & B-2 Sealth bombers?
Ferget about them Thomahawk Cruise (Submarine launched) missiles?
Ferget about them bunker-bustin' MOABS?
Heh..it'd be over before it started...
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Attacking Iran is possible via missles and jets from the air. Ground forces are not needed, and not possible.

Attaacking Iran IMO, would lead to massive retaliation, as noted above.
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Attaacking Iran IMO, would lead to massive retaliation, as noted above.
Not if we took out the SAM and missile sites first.
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French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said on Sunday.
He is back on smoking pot again, I don't know how many times I told him to stop

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That's the daftest most irresponsible statement I have heard from a career politician
Agree, completely stupid. I wouldn't be surprised if these comments would push him out faster from Sarko Facist government.
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Attaacking Iran IMO, would lead to massive retaliation, as noted above.
Not if we took out the SAM and missile sites first.
I'm no expert, but I'm making an assumption, Boon.

Iran has the radar, and rapid response completely available. The Iranians are tracking all movements by U.S. air craft carriers, jet take-offs, missles, and bases etc.

The Iranians are sophisticated, and have been planning for an attack against them and a response for a long time.

It won't be that easy IMO.

With the number of missles Iran has, let's just say that 20% of them made it to U.S. bases in Iraq, the U.S. embassy, and to Israel.

Result: bad.

And, I am quite sure Israel would respond to an Iranian attack:

So you have

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The Frenchies elected Sarko to clean up that socialist mess there - heh...
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Attaacking Iran IMO, would lead to massive retaliation, as noted above.
Not if we took out the SAM and missile sites first.
I'm no expert, but I'm making an assumption, Boon.

Iran has the radar, and rapid response completely available. The Iranians are tracking all movements by U.S. air craft carriers, jet take-offs, missles, and bases etc.

The Iranians are sophisticated, and have been planning for an attack against them and a response for a long time.

It won't be that easy IMO.

With the number of missles Iran has, let's just say that 20% of them made it to U.S. bases in Iraq, the U.S. embassy, and to Israel.

Result: bad.

And, I am quite sure Israel would respond to an Iranian attack:

So you have

The U.S.
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recall I listed the stealth bombers?
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The Frenchies elected Sarko to clean up that socialist mess there - heh...
The socialists haven't been in charge since 2002

Sarko is a dog, he will quit in shame sooner than you think. I give him 2 years max

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2,000 targets.

"Pentagon planners have developed a list of up to 2,000 bombing targets in Iran, amid growing fears among serving officers that diplomatic efforts to slow Iran's nuclear weapons programme are doomed to fail."











Man...the price of oil's gonna go thru the roof!

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the last thing you need is to have Americans get their ass kicked by another third world country, that would be totally non-constructive for the region. Draft maybe ?
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aside from the logistical impossibility of invading Iran
Come again?
Ferget about them B-1 & B-2 Sealth bombers?
Ferget about them Thomahawk Cruise (Submarine launched) missiles?
Ferget about them bunker-bustin' MOABS?
Heh..it'd be over before it started...
Bombing is easy, that's what planes and missiles are for, so any place on earth is subject to strikes against specific targets which can then be rebuilt, but it is logistically not possible to invade Iran and those drawing on this as even the remotest scenario are plain and simply fearmongering to suit their agenda or interests.
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