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stroller · 18-02-2007, 12:05 PM

Except "surrender" was not up for voting.

Wallace · 19-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Oh no, here we go. This is a stupid article written by a bitter man who supported the war on Iraq and initially thought it was all going to go well for the United States.

It is interesting to note that the same writer also says:

"Iraq is failing. No honest observer can conclude otherwise." (Nov. 2006)

and "Our military is now being employed for political purposes. It's unworthy of our nation." (Nov. 2006)
which rather suggests he would be in favour of a pull-out, doesn't it?

Perhaps my favourite quote from him is:

"[i]t appears that the cynics were right: Arab societies can't support democracy as we know it." (Nov.2006)

Ralph Peters says a lot of things, Boon Mee, but judging from the other things he's said, your post above is not really representative.

Milkman · 17-03-2007, 01:10 AM

^ I like that:

"We support our troops when they shoot officers."

I agree.

Boon Mee · 17-03-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkman

^ I like that:

"We support our troops when they shoot officers."

I agree.

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls...

Milkman · 17-03-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls...

I am not a troll.

And I am not trolling.

This is my opinion. I have had this opinion for almost 4 years.

I have a right to express it, because I have not broken any of the Issues Guidelines.

And you sir, have said the same.

Boon Mee · 17-03-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls...

I am not a troll.

And I am not trolling.

This is my opinion. I have had this opinion for almost 4 years.

I have a right to express it, because I have not broken any of the Issues Guidelines.

And you sir, have said the same.

Where have I advocated anarchy?

Boon Mee · 19-03-2007, 02:53 AM

Iraqis: life is getting better

Most Iraquis believe life is better for tham than it was under Saddam according to a British opinion poll published yesterday.

Yep...British poll - how 'bout them apples boys?

Boon Mee · 28-04-2007, 03:57 AM

Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys?

According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007).

A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007).

A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007).

POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007).

A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007).

A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007).

According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable”

Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007).

An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007)

Wallace · 17-03-2007, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls..

...but it gives you something to respond to, doesn't it?

Boon Mee · 17-03-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls..

...but it gives you something to respond to, doesn't it?

Yep, I not complaining.

Wallace · 20-03-2007, 10:22 AM

Ok, enough links there Sabang. Good idea to edit those out.

Interestingly John Simpson when to Mahdi city yesterday. He had to AVOID the US military as apparently they don't control this area. He said the local militia were in charge and just waiting for the troops to leave. It seemed pretty calm and there weren't any guns in sight, though there has been appalling violence here in recent times. Let's face it, the US and UK have done a right royal job of screwing Iraq for years to come.

sabang · 20-03-2007, 10:36 AM

Links edited Wallace.
Article reproduced in full, as it appears to be the same survey Boonie referred to yet paints a very different picture.

mad_dog · 24-04-2007, 04:37 PM

The Mujahdeen got 9 of the Jews proxies in one strike! Good on 'em

stroller · 05-05-2007, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Rice Approaches Syria and Iran

Thursday brought the first high-level contact between the United States and Syria in two years. Condoleezza Rice and her Syrian counterpart discussed the Iraq crisis and exchanged frank words as Baghdad discussed debt relief, ties with neighboring states and solutions to its imploding security situation.
...
Although Washington's relations with Syria and Iran are frozen, the bipartisan Baker Commission recently urged US President George W. Bush to pull the two countries into the international community's talks to bring peace and stability to Iraq.
...

More here: Breaking the Ice at the Iraq Conference: Rice Approaches Syria and Iran - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Boon Mee · 05-05-2007, 12:40 PM

^
Yeah, but the 'envoy' dissed her at dinner 'cause his sensitivities were offended by a 'scantilly clad' musician.

Welcome back to the Dark Ages...

attaboy · 05-05-2007, 01:12 PM

Why would they send such an intolerant diplomat? "Intolerant diplomat" is a bit of a contradiction.

Bung · 05-05-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys? According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007). A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007). A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007). POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007). A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007). A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007). According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable” Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007). An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007)

MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU.

Boon Mee · 10-05-2007, 03:46 PM

Watch this video. It shows the 9/11 plot with testimonies of experts and pictures of the terrorists. How they looked like Westerners (watch their original clothes) and worked with Iraq to do 9/11. Check out how they were trained in Salman Pak, Iraq...

So much for the lies/spin etc that Saddam was not involved with Al Quaeda before 9/11...

stroller · 05-05-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys?

And the text which follows is copied from "free republic", or where did you get it from?
Indicate when you quote and from where or have the posts deleted in future.

RDN · 05-05-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stroller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys?

And the text which follows is copied from "free republic", or where did you get it from?
Indicate when you quote and from where or have the posts deleted in future.

From here:

The Corner on National Review Online

19-02-2007, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wallace Wat Chalong Last Online: 15-10-2009 08:39 PM Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Q Continuum Posts: 864	Oh no, here we go. This is a stupid article written by a bitter man who supported the war on Iraq and initially thought it was all going to go well for the United States. It is interesting to note that the same writer also says: "Iraq is failing. No honest observer can conclude otherwise." (Nov. 2006) and "Our military is now being employed for political purposes. It's unworthy of our nation." (Nov. 2006) which rather suggests he would be in favour of a pull-out, doesn't it? Perhaps my favourite quote from him is: "[i]t appears that the cynics were right: Arab societies can't support democracy as we know it." (Nov.2006) Ralph Peters says a lot of things, Boon Mee, but judging from the other things he's said, your post above is not really representative. __________________ The truth is out there, but then I'm stuck in here.

28-04-2007, 03:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 07:26 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,927	Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys? According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007). A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007). A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007). POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007). A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007). A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007). According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable” Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007). An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007)

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18-02-2007, 12:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 07:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,164	Except "surrender" was not up for voting.

17-03-2007, 01:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 15,376	^ I like that: "We support our troops when they shoot officers." I agree.

19-03-2007, 02:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 07:26 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,927	Iraqis: life is getting better Most Iraquis believe life is better for tham than it was under Saddam according to a British opinion poll published yesterday. Yep...British poll - how 'bout them apples boys?

20-03-2007, 10:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
Wallace Wat Chalong Last Online: 15-10-2009 08:39 PM Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Q Continuum Posts: 864	Ok, enough links there Sabang. Good idea to edit those out. Interestingly John Simpson when to Mahdi city yesterday. He had to AVOID the US military as apparently they don't control this area. He said the local militia were in charge and just waiting for the troops to leave. It seemed pretty calm and there weren't any guns in sight, though there has been appalling violence here in recent times. Let's face it, the US and UK have done a right royal job of screwing Iraq for years to come.

20-03-2007, 10:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
sabang Watching the Wheels Last Online: Yesterday 08:23 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: where the streets have no name Posts: 11,574	Links edited Wallace. Article reproduced in full, as it appears to be the same survey Boonie referred to yet paints a very different picture.

24-04-2007, 04:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
mad_dog Thailand Forum Last Online: Yesterday 09:30 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,983	The Mujahdeen got 9 of the Jews proxies in one strike! Good on 'em

05-05-2007, 12:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 07:26 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,927	^ Yeah, but the 'envoy' dissed her at dinner 'cause his sensitivities were offended by a 'scantilly clad' musician. Welcome back to the Dark Ages...

05-05-2007, 01:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
attaboy Elite Member Last Online: 01-11-2009 06:53 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,902	Why would they send such an intolerant diplomat? "Intolerant diplomat" is a bit of a contradiction.

10-05-2007, 03:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 07:26 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,927	Watch this video. It shows the 9/11 plot with testimonies of experts and pictures of the terrorists. How they looked like Westerners (watch their original clothes) and worked with Iraq to do 9/11. Check out how they were trained in Salman Pak, Iraq... So much for the lies/spin etc that Saddam was not involved with Al Quaeda before 9/11...

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