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Boon Mee

Surrender Resolution Fails .

It's nice to see the Senate Republicans show a little backbone...

stroller

Except "surrender" was not up for voting.

Boon Mee

COWARDS GIVE UP ON GIS - & GIVE IN TO EVIL

PROVIDING aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime is treason. It's not "just politics." It's treason.

And signaling our enemies that Congress wants them to win isn't "supporting our troops."

The "nonbinding resolution" telling the world that we intend to surrender to terrorism and abandon Iraq may be the most disgraceful congressional action since the Democratic Party united to defend slavery...

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Wallace

Oh no, here we go. This is a stupid article written by a bitter man who supported the war on Iraq and initially thought it was all going to go well for the United States.

It is interesting to note that the same writer also says:

"Iraq is failing. No honest observer can conclude otherwise." (Nov. 2006)

and "Our military is now being employed for political purposes. It's unworthy of our nation." (Nov. 2006)
which rather suggests he would be in favour of a pull-out, doesn't it?

Perhaps my favourite quote from him is:

"[i]t appears that the cynics were right: Arab societies can't support democracy as we know it." (Nov.2006)

Ralph Peters says a lot of things, Boon Mee, but judging from the other things he's said, your post above is not really representative.

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Boon Mee

Had Enough Yet?

Milkman

^ I like that:

"We support our troops when they shoot officers."

I agree.

Boon Mee

Jeeeze...it's a bloody shame when even the Mods on here are Trolls...

Wallace

...but it gives you something to respond to, doesn't it?

Boon Mee

Yep, I not complaining.

Milkman

I am not a troll.

And I am not trolling.


This is my opinion. I have had this opinion for almost 4 years.


I have a right to express it, because I have not broken any of the Issues Guidelines.

And you sir, have said the same.

Boon Mee

Where have I advocated anarchy?

Boon Mee

Iraqis: life is getting better

Most Iraquis believe life is better for tham than it was under Saddam according to a British opinion poll published yesterday.

Yep...British poll - how 'bout them apples boys?

sabang

Do you mean this opinion poll Boonie? :-


Pessimism 'growing among Iraqis'

69% of those polled said medical care provision was still poor

Iraqis are becoming increasingly pessimistic about the future of their country and unhappy about their lives, a survey suggests.
Less than 40% of those polled said things were good in their lives, compared to 71% two years ago.

However, a majority of those questioned said that, despite daily violence, they did not believe Iraq was in a state of civil war.
More than 2,000 people took part in the BBC/ABC News poll.



Iraq poll in graphics
Poll analysis: Lessons for US

The poll paints a picture of an increasingly polarised Iraq, with acutely diverging views between Sunni Arabs and Shias - Sunnis appearing more pessimistic.
There are also regional differences, with pessimism most keenly felt across central Iraq, including Baghdad, where Sunni Arabs are most numerous.
But despite their differences, 58% overall said they wanted Iraq to remain a unified country. Almost all said they did not want Iraqi to be broken up along sectarian lines.
The poll produced conflicting views on the role of the US and its allies.
Only 18% said they had confidence in US and coalition troops, and 51% said they thought attacks on coalition forces were justified.
However, only 35% said foreign troops should leave Iraq now. A further 63% said they should go only after security has improved.
'Deteriorating lives'
The poll was commissioned by the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today. It was conducted by D3 Systems.

People were questioned in more than 450 neighbourhoods and villages across all 18 provinces between 25 February and 5 March.
The findings contrast sharply with those of a similar poll in 2005, a year when elections were taking place.
Asked now whether they thought reconstruction efforts in Iraq had been effective, some 67% said they felt they had not.
And just 38% said the situation in the country was better than before the 2003 war, while 50% said it was worse.
Many said the quality of their lives was deteriorating, with a particularly high proportion (88%) saying electricity and fuel supplies were poor.
READ THE FINDINGS


Iraq Poll 2007 [468KB]

Security remains a serious concern, with only 26% saying they felt safe in their own neighbourhoods.
More than half of those polled said that they have not gone to markets or crowded areas and often stayed at home in order to avoid trouble.
Many said they often stopped their children from going to school.
Ethnic divide
Ethnic differences were particularly evident in attitudes towards the execution of Saddam Hussein, who was a Sunni leader in a predominantly Shia state.
WAS US RIGHT TO INVADE IRAQ?
Absolutely right:
2007: 22%
2005: 19%
2004: 20%
Somewhat right:
2007: 25%
2005: 28%
2004: 29%
Somewhat wrong:
2007: 19%
2005: 17%
2004: 13%
Absolutely wrong:
2007: 34%
2005: 33%
2004: 26%
Refused/don't know:
2007: 0%
2005: 4%
2004: 13%



Of Sunni Arabs questioned, more than 95% said they regarded the manner of his death as inappropriate and unlikely to help the cause of reconciliation.
Shias predominantly took the opposite view - 82% said the manner of death was appropriate.
But considerably fewer - 62% - thought his execution would lead to reconciliation.
A large number of Sunnis, 48%, said they thought Iraq should have a strong leader in five years' time, compared to 46% who said they wanted a democracy.
Only 11% of Shias sought a strong leader, with 52% calling for democracy and 37% for an Islamic state.

Wallace

Ok, enough links there Sabang. Good idea to edit those out.

Interestingly John Simpson when to Mahdi city yesterday. He had to AVOID the US military as apparently they don't control this area. He said the local militia were in charge and just waiting for the troops to leave. It seemed pretty calm and there weren't any guns in sight, though there has been appalling violence here in recent times. Let's face it, the US and UK have done a right royal job of screwing Iraq for years to come.

sabang

Links edited Wallace.
Article reproduced in full, as it appears to be the same survey Boonie referred to yet paints a very different picture.

mad_dog

The Mujahdeen got 9 of the Jews proxies in one strike! Good on 'em

Boon Mee

Here's some interesting items you don't see posted 'round here, eh boys?


According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February. (3/23-25, 2007).

• A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea (3/3-11, 2007).

• A recent Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll found that 56% of registered voters favor fully funding the war in Iraq, with more voters strongly favoring funding (40%) than totally opposing it (38%); (3/25-27, 2007).

• POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested (3/25-27, 2007).

• A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%); (2/5-7, 2007).

• A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans (3/27-28, 2007).

• According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable”

• Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics, 4/17-18, 2007).

An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops (4/5-9, 2007)

stroller

More here: Breaking the Ice at the Iraq Conference: Rice Approaches Syria and Iran - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News