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| Not again! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Out there!
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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: 02-01-2009 06:58 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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And this thread is named Iraq news. Young Hassan certainly thinks the story in the post above is germane. Your moral high ground is disappearing quickly. | |
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| US issues threat to Iraq's $50bn foreign reserves in military deal By Patrick Cockburn Friday, 6 June 2008 AFP/Getty Images Under the planned pact, reported in The Independent yesterday, US soldiers in Iraq will enjoy legal immunity "The US is holding hostage some $50bn (£25bn) of Iraq's money in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to pressure the Iraqi government into signing an agreement seen by many Iraqis as prolonging the US occupation indefinitely, according to information leaked to The Independent. US negotiators are using the existence of $20bn in outstanding court judgments against Iraq in the US, to pressure their Iraqi counterparts into accepting the terms of the military deal, details of which were reported for the first time in this newspaper yesterday. Iraq's foreign reserves are currently protected by a presidential order giving them immunity from judicial attachment but the US side in the talks has suggested that if the UN mandate, under which the money is held, lapses and is not replaced by the new agreement, then Iraq's funds would lose this immunity. The cost to Iraq of this happening would be the immediate loss of $20bn. The US is able to threaten Iraq with the loss of 40 per cent of its foreign exchange reserves because Iraq's independence is still limited by the legacy of UN sanctions and restrictions imposed on Iraq since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the 1990s. This means that Iraq is still considered a threat to international security and stability under Chapter Seven of the UN charter. The US negotiators say the price of Iraq escaping Chapter Seven is to sign up to a new "strategic alliance" with the United States." US issues threat to Iraq's $50bn foreign reserves in military deal - Middle East, World - The Independent All is fair in love and oil, -- sorry I mean war. he he. |
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| Senior Member | New Reality in Iraq All of the most important objectives of the surge have been accomplished in Iraq. The sectarian civil war is ended; al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) has been dealt a devastating blow; and the Sadrist militia and other Iranian-backed militant groups have been disrupted. ![]() A boy enjoys a ride at a park in Baghdad, Wednesday, July 9. What say you now you Nattering Nabobs of Negativism?
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| Watching the Wheels Last Online: Today 01:16 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: east of Pattaya
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Hence the Iraqi government is now sidling up to the Iranians, and distancing itself more from the US Occupation. Can of Worms springs to mind. No amount of political lies will alter the fact- the invasion and occupation of Iraq stands as a Failure, a stark failure of US foreign policy that will be remembered for several generations. Sorry booner.
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| Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf
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| Quote: IMO only, but an American victory will only be achieved (for the few) if Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Total, Royal Dutch Shell, and BP are allowed to share profits in the spoil of oil. We'll see if they are even allowed to.
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| Watching the Wheels Last Online: Today 01:16 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: east of Pattaya
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The same thing could have been achieved cheaper, and with less violence and less destabilisation to the ME. Such consolation prize as the US/UK receives will be their share on the oil revenues and profits though. | |
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| Elite Member Last Online: Today 10:43 AM Join Date: Jan 2006
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![]() There are negotiations going on and it's the frigging Middle East to boot. Both sides are starting high. Iraqis ask for a timetable. The US asks for permanent bases (or some sort of 99 year lease). They meet somewhere in between. What's so odd about that? Should the US have opened with exactly what they considered would be agreeable? al-Maliki is playing to the Iraqi people's pride. I bet somehow he hopes he can balance this thing so the USA stays on. The money is too good.
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| Senior Member | Quiet Iraq streets leave soldiers yearning for Afghanistan. The relative calm is apparent in Baghdad’s Ghazaliyah neighborhood, patrolled by troops stationed at Maverick from the 1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment of the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division.Yep, sure sounds like a Quagmire don't it? ![]() |
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| 15 dead in Iraq car bomb A car bomb in northern Iraq killed at least 15 people including children today in a sign that militants retain the ability to cause mass casualties despite a sharp improvement in security. In the south, US-led forces handed control of a province to the Iraqi government. Ninety people were injured in the blast near a popular market in Tal Afar, said a police official who requested anonymity because he is not authorised to speak to the media. Seven of the dead were children.... Diyala province, northeast of Baghdad, is another trouble spot. Yesterday two suicide bombers killed 28 people in a crowd of army recruits outside a military base there. Iraq has said it will soon launch an offensive in Diyala against militants who are trying to regroup, and US commanders say they will assist. Some insurgents are believed to have holed up in the northern city of Mosul after being driven out of other urban strongholds, and relatively small-scale attacks happen there almost daily. Today a car bomb exploded there killing two people and injuring nine, police said. About an hour earlier on the same side of the city a suicide bomber blew up a car near a US military patrol and six civilians were injured, a police official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorised to speak to the media. A female suicide bomber blew herself up yesterday inside the Baghdad house of a municipal leader who was planning to establish a US-allied Sunni group in the area, an official connected with the group said. Three men died and seven others were injured, said the official, who did not want to be named for security reasons. Saad Awad, a municipal leader in the Abu Ghraib district, escaped unharmed but his father was among those killed. AP 15 dead in Iraq car bomb - World - smh.com.au Iraq says hope slim for security deal with current U.S. gov't BAGHDAD, July 14 (Xinhua) -- The Iraqi government spokesman gave a dim outlook Monday of reaching a security agreement with the current U.S. administration. "There is a large possibility of postponing the signing of the long-term agreement between Iraq and the U.S., until a new U.S. administration is elected," Ali al-Dabbagh was quoted as saying by the Voice of Iraq news agency. Their disputes include a timetable for the pullout of foreign troops and how the U.S. forces would operate in Iraq, Dabbagh said, adding that both sides were trying to achieve the maximum gains. The negotiations for a long-term bilateral agreement started March, aimed at framing a sweeping arrangement for future mutual relations, including the security issue, after the UN mandate on Iraq expires at the end of this year. Yet, they are locked in differences over the status of the U.S. force in Iraq in the coming years. Iraq says hope slim for security deal with current U.S. gov't_English_Xinhua US Troop levels are likely to come down in the coming months. An interesting time coming up- will a fragile truce remain, or will conflict break out again? I don't know the answer. Some news is not so good- Fallujah's flames rekindled By Ali al-Fadhily and Dahr Jamail FALLUJAH - Security has collapsed again in Fallujah, despite United States military claims. Local militias supported by US forces claim to have "cleansed" the city, 70 kilometers to the west of Baghdad, of all insurgency. But the sudden resignation of the city's chief of police, Colonel Fayssal al-Zoba'i, has appeared as one recent sign of growing unrest. Authorities may have controlled the media better than the violence. "Assassinations never stopped in Fallujah, but the media seem unwilling to cover the actual situation here," a human-rights activist in Fallujah, speaking on terms of anonymity given the tense situation, told Inter Press Service (IPS). "The two bomb blasts that killed six policemen earlier this month and another two that killed three on the weekend seem to have terminated the silence." Asia Times Online :: Middle East News, Iraq, Iran current affairs Some more encouraging- Al Qaida bailing: Out of Iraq, into Africa BAGHDAD — The Al Qaida network in Iraq, battered in the U.S.-led coalition offensive, has been sending scores of operatives to Africa. Iraqi security sources said the Al Qaida network in Iraq has ordered hundreds of foreign operatives to leave the country. The sources said scores of Al Qaida fighters left Iraq for northern and eastern Africa during 2008. "Many of them have escaped through the borders with Syria and Iran to hotter zones such as Somalia and Sudan," Iraqi Maj. Gen. Hussein Ali Kamal said. World Tribune — Al Qaida bailing: Out of Iraq, into Africa It's wait and see time. |
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