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| Go ask Alice Last Online: Today 10:05 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: There
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ^ Unfortunately the avaerage Shiite, who initially welcomed the toppling of Saddam, would now say 'yes'. Or probably more accurately, he was a cnut but life under him was better than it is now. The Occupation has been totally mismanaged. |
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| ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: 29-08-2010 12:03 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Is that the surge at work? Funny, the middle graph looks like my mutual fund returns during the leadup to and immediately after 9-11. Last edited by Texpat : 23-12-2007 at 06:33 AM. |
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| Go ask Alice Last Online: Today 10:05 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: There
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Those stats are certainly encouraging- violence has been steadily dropping since August, although it remains unnaceptably high. Hopefully basic services, such as water and electricity, can follow suit and life willl begin to return to normal. |
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| Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 09:32 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues
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| Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 06:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I thought this is what you were getting at, was hoping for something a bit more detailed, though. If it works long-term remains to be seen, and the comments stating Bush policies have been disastrous and that the situation now is still worse than pre-invasion stand unrefuted. Your graphs show a steady increase in violence until a few months ago. Yes, Patreus deserves more credit than some are willing to acknowledge. |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | A year-end look at the Iraq War and the valid reason(s) for pursuing it. This guy states the case most articulately: Victor Davis Hanson on War on National Review Online= Salient points: · We invaded because, "after September 11, and the realization that state-sponsored terrorists from the Middle East had the desire to destroy the United States and the capability to do it great harm, the decade-long containment of Saddam Hussein, in light also of his serial violations of both armistice and U.N. accords, was considered inadequate. Few disagreed." · "So both houses of Congress, backed by an overwhelming majority of the American people, authorized the use of military force to remove Saddam Hussein, at the vigorous request of the President." · About WMD:"... when such weapons were not found in Iraq, and the insurgency imperiled the brilliant three-week victory, the case for the war, in the eyes of many, collapsed. It did so on both moral and practical grounds. For some reason, no one cared that the other twenty-some Congressional causes were still as valid as when they had been first approved in October 2002." · "The debate, since 2003, has hinged on our own culpability, and postfacto, on our reasons for going into Iraq in the first place. It has focused almost solely on American lapses, not recognition of either the capability, or zeal, or brutality of the enemy." · "So we stayed, and we learned, and we persevered. Classical arguments for victory prevailed, despite being caricatured and deemed simplistic: whatever transient emotional, financial, and moral advantages were to be had by fleeing Iraq, they would all be overshadowed by the eventual human and financial costs of our utter defeat." · "There is no longer serious doubt that by any fair measure the situation in Iraq has radically improved by the end of 2007."
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| Thailand Travel Forum | What some more good news? "Iraq says most of Al-Qaeda network destroyed in 2007" Iraq says most of Al-Qaeda network destroyed in 2007 |
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| Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 06:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hmm, "The 20,000 AIF [Anti Iraqi Forces] terrorist was killed by our troops." So all Iraqi insurgents against the occupation are "Anti Iraq Forces"? Deaths confirmed by "terrorist death watch com". Posting this is some New Year joke on your part, right, Boon Mee? |
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What can I say...AIF can be construed as terrorists. All depends on what the meaning of "is" is I guess... ![]() Terrorist Death Watch : Counting the enemy dead since 2006 | |
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