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Old 22-12-2007, 06:16 AM   #321 (permalink)
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And Saddam was really an all right guy after all...
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Old 22-12-2007, 06:25 AM   #322 (permalink)
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^ Unfortunately the avaerage Shiite, who initially welcomed the toppling of Saddam, would now say 'yes'. Or probably more accurately, he was a cnut but life under him was better than it is now. The Occupation has been totally mismanaged.
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Old 22-12-2007, 09:56 PM   #323 (permalink)
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^ Unfortunately the avaerage Shiite, who initially welcomed the toppling of Saddam, would now say 'yes'. Or probably more accurately, he was a cnut but life under him was better than it is now. The Occupation has been totally mismanaged.
More like it is an absolute disaster and only a Nimrod like Boom Mee who works for an oil company could possibly support the farce that is taking place over there.
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Old 22-12-2007, 11:52 PM   #324 (permalink)
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^ Unfortunately the avaerage Shiite, who initially welcomed the toppling of Saddam, would now say 'yes'. Or probably more accurately, he was a cnut but life under him was better than it is now. The Occupation has been totally mismanaged.
More like it is an absolute disaster and only a Nimrod like Boom Mee who works for an oil company could possibly support the farce that is taking place over there.
Spoken like a total clueless, appeasing, leftwing moonbat!
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Old 23-12-2007, 04:48 AM   #325 (permalink)
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Progress In Iraq:







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Old 23-12-2007, 06:04 AM   #326 (permalink)
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Any comment on this stats, Boon?

Looks like attack are back to 2004 level. Hmm, 2003 and pre-invasion don't feature at all...
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Old 23-12-2007, 06:09 AM   #327 (permalink)
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Is that the surge at work?

Funny, the middle graph looks like my mutual fund returns during the leadup to and immediately after 9-11.

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Old 23-12-2007, 06:23 AM   #328 (permalink)
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Those stats are certainly encouraging- violence has been steadily dropping since August, although it remains unnaceptably high.
Hopefully basic services, such as water and electricity, can follow suit and life willl begin to return to normal.
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Old 23-12-2007, 08:01 PM   #329 (permalink)
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Any comment on this stats, Boon?

Looks like attack are back to 2004 level. Hmm, 2003 and pre-invasion don't feature at all...
Nothing that we don't already see.
The surge is working and Person of the Year should have gone to General Patreus.
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The surge is working
which part of 'political reconciliation' don't you understand?


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Person of the Year should have gone to General Patreus.
you constantly prattle on about the MSM---of which time magazine is most certainly a part---why are you so bothered about their selection as 'person of the year'. get a grip.
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Old 24-12-2007, 02:32 PM   #331 (permalink)
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The surge is working
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I thought this is what you were getting at, was hoping for something a bit more detailed, though.
If it works long-term remains to be seen, and the comments stating Bush policies have been disastrous and that the situation now is still worse than pre-invasion stand unrefuted.
Your graphs show a steady increase in violence until a few months ago.

Yes, Patreus deserves more credit than some are willing to acknowledge.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:22 AM   #332 (permalink)
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A year-end look at the Iraq War and the valid reason(s) for pursuing it.
This guy states the case most articulately:

Victor Davis Hanson on War on National Review Online=

Salient points:

· We invaded because, "after September 11, and the realization that state-sponsored terrorists from the Middle East had the desire to destroy the United States and the capability to do it great harm, the decade-long containment of Saddam Hussein, in light also of his serial violations of both armistice and U.N. accords, was considered inadequate. Few disagreed."

· "So both houses of Congress, backed by an overwhelming majority of the American people, authorized the use of military force to remove Saddam Hussein, at the vigorous request of the President."

· About WMD:"... when such weapons were not found in Iraq, and the insurgency imperiled the brilliant three-week victory, the case for the war, in the eyes of many, collapsed. It did so on both moral and practical grounds. For some reason, no one cared that the other twenty-some Congressional causes were still as valid as when they had been first approved in October 2002."

· "The debate, since 2003, has hinged on our own culpability, and postfacto, on our reasons for going into Iraq in the first place. It has focused almost solely on American lapses, not recognition of either the capability, or zeal, or brutality of the enemy."

· "So we stayed, and we learned, and we persevered. Classical arguments for victory prevailed, despite being caricatured and deemed simplistic: whatever transient emotional, financial, and moral advantages were to be had by fleeing Iraq, they would all be overshadowed by the eventual human and financial costs of our utter defeat."

· "There is no longer serious doubt that by any fair measure the situation in Iraq has radically improved by the end of 2007."
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^ Unfortunately the avaerage Shiite, who initially welcomed the toppling of Saddam, would now say 'yes'. Or probably more accurately, he was a cnut but life under him was better than it is now. The Occupation has been totally mismanaged.
I suppose the difficulties in Iraq have nothing to do with Shiite militias, Al Sadyr or Iran.
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Old 30-12-2007, 07:52 PM   #334 (permalink)
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What some more good news?

"Iraq says most of Al-Qaeda network destroyed in 2007"

Iraq says most of Al-Qaeda network destroyed in 2007
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Old 30-12-2007, 11:18 PM   #335 (permalink)
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Another milestone: 20,000th terrorist killed in Iraq.

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Hmm, "The 20,000 AIF [Anti Iraqi Forces] terrorist was killed by our troops."
So all Iraqi insurgents against the occupation are "Anti Iraq Forces"? Deaths confirmed by "terrorist death watch com".

Posting this is some New Year joke on your part, right, Boon Mee?
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Hmm, "The 20,000 AIF [Anti Iraqi Forces] terrorist was killed by our troops."
So all Iraqi insurgents against the occupation are "Anti Iraq Forces"? Deaths confirmed by "terrorist death watch com".

Posting this is some New Year joke on your part, right, Boon Mee?
Well, the numbers look right from the source below.
What can I say...AIF can be construed as terrorists. All depends on what the meaning of "is" is I guess...

Terrorist Death Watch : Counting the enemy dead since 2006
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Sure, Iraqi insurgents are "Anti Iraq Forces" and all terrorists.

Welcome to 1984, Booner.
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[ All depends on what the meaning of "is" is I guess...
If we break it down for for him....the "i" and the "s".
It must be the "s" he's having trouble with the "S". As in Stuck on Stupid!
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You boys been trying to learn some semantic 'tricks' from the ant?
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