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Old 07-09-2009, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Israel defies US over settlements

Here we go again. Enough rhetorical nonsense from Israeli government on how much they desire peace. Billions of dollars in aid given to a country which has done nothing but derail any effort to achieve a semblance of stability to the region. Time for the staunch allies of Israel to cut them off completely.

"Israel has officially approved the construction of 455 new settlements in the occupied West Bank, defying demands by the US and others for a freeze on settlement building.

Israel's defence ministry announced the decision to continue with settlement building on Monday.

"Defence Minister Ehud Barak has authorised the construction of 455 housing units in settlement blocs" in the occupied West Bank, the ministry said.

The US wants Israel to stop settlement activity and Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, has demanded a freeze as a condition for returning to peace negotiations.

Israeli officials announced on Friday that Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, intended to give the go-ahead for the new projects before considering a halt.

Netanyahu's move is widely seen as an attempt to cement the support of his coalition government, many members of which are committed to expanding Israel's borders into the West Bank."


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Old 07-09-2009, 06:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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America won't put any serious pressure on them just blow some hot air to look as though they are objecting as they are going to need Israel to take out Irans nuclear capability.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Afraid you are right. Will likely hear the usual "deeply troubling" or "deep concern" from Hillary.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Here we go again. Enough rhetorical nonsense from Israeli government on how much they desire peace. Billions of dollars in aid given to a country which has done nothing but derail any effort to achieve a semblance of stability to the region. Time for the staunch allies of Israel to cut them off completely.
Exactly.

This is an utterly cynical move by the Israeli right knowing full well that Obama has got his hands full with all the ludicrous hysteria being drummed up against health care reform and the stimulus package stuff.

He probably can't challenge the influence of the mighty Israeli lobbying machine in Washington at this time and they know it so that scumbag Netanyahu pushes this through now to appease his extreme minority partners.

It is time indeed to force the Israelis back to the negotiating table, a complete suspension of aid until talks restart seems to be the only thing they will listen to.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They are a sovereign state and us Americans never meddle in affairs that don't concern us.
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They are a sovereign state and us Americans never meddle in affairs that don't concern us.
You'll find this model repeated quite often....until it becomes real and true.
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eventually the US will need to stand up to israel, but of course this will be political suicide for whoever decides enough is enough. the only scenario i can foresee is obama doing it after the 2014 mid-terms....and unfortunately that isn't very likely either IMO.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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eventually the US will need to stand up to israel, but of course this will be political suicide for whoever decides enough is enough. the only scenario i can foresee is obama doing it after the 2014 mid-terms....and unfortunately that isn't very likely either IMO.
I'd have to agree... The sad things is that the majority of American's give a ratz ass about Israel... It's the Joo power brokers that pull the $$$ strings...
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can't wait for Iran to have nukes, so the balance of power in the region is restored, and those nasty Israelis kept in check
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Can't wait 'til Iran has Nukes which gives Israel justification for turning those facilities into a parking lot...
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Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.
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Israelis are dangerous fanatics, the war on terror should start with them

Iran with nukes is the only solution for peace in the region,
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^ Would you be willing to print out this whole page and eat your words if you are proven wrong?

Hopefully Obama is voted out and replaced by a real man. Rumour has it that Mitch Daniels is going to run for President with Jeb as his VP.

If we have some balls in the WH we might crank up the draft and assist Israel in wiping Iran off the face of the earth.
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Iran with nukes is the only solution for peace in the region,
I posted a very nice post on this thread and it is gone,,
But anyway Bfly, where are you buying that shit??
It is damn sure a better quality than we used to get out of Afghanistan.

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Old 07-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Iran with nukes is the only solution for peace in the region,
Just like Germany stabilized Europe and France.

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Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.
Agreed, 100%

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Stop trolling the adult orientated threads, stay in Computers where we can all laugh at your feeble attempts or MKP. Twat.
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Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.
Agreed, 100%
I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

Problem is, for the most part the Ruskies are atheists... No moral imperative there for disarmament...
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Would much rather see Israel disarmed of it's nukes. Religeous fanatics with nuclear bombs, whether it be Iran, Pakistan or anybody make the world a dangerous place.
Agreed, 100%
I would have to include Merika on this list too... Cristian nutters who started the whole cycle of nuclear proliferation...

Problem is, for the most part the Ruskies are atheists... No moral imperative there for disarmament...
Religions (all) are the problem, develop a bomb that can wipe out all traces and history of religious beliefs everywhere and Bob's your uncle. Just imagine if all the arrogant self-important twats had to accept that they in reality are no more than advanced apes? that new-found humbleness would go a long way towards peace, your tree? my tree? WTF as long as we both have a banana.

I am a raving atheist and I will venture the claim that morality based on reality and real facts of life is the only one worth having.

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Just like Germany stabilized Europe and France.
no, just like the USA has stabilized Iraq and Afghanistan
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Would you be willing to print out this whole page and eat your words if you are proven wrong?
you are not making any sense, how can I be proven wrong ? Iran has nukes and it's a question of time before Israel realize that they have no leverage and will need to go the bargaining table and shut the fuck up. Regardless, they are screwed long term.
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