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    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat
    I fail to see where chitown said anything about occuping Cuba.
    He didn't- but Israel occupies Palestine. So if you are to make an analogy, make it a correct one. A more correct analogy to Cuba/America would be, say, Syria/Israel. A more correct analogy to Israel/Palestine would be US/Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    Are you a Djoo, keda?
    Or a Nazi, which is it?
    I guess in your tiny mind only djoos and fools could possibly support Israel, but if you really must know my roots are firmly entrenched in islam.

    Surprised? Only, I had the good fortune to be both brought up and educated in the West, and neither regard myself as a muslim nor have any respect for its leaders and clerics, their backward teachings or the zealots they indoctrinate to kill innocents in the name of a false god; and goes without saying nazis such as yourself. I support Israel and always will, because the djoos I know are decent people and the djoos I don't know are the best thing that has ever happened to that region. I also support the US, Euroland and the rest of the free world against the scourge of allah, though I will criticise all of the above if I believe it is warranted. Furthermore, I have many arab/muslim friends here in LoS, who enjoy and benefit from my free advice and assistance in dealing with various embassies and the UN and other humanitarian agencies, which is why I chuckle when you of all scum call me a racist. Anything else you need to know, feel free to ask.

    What do you support, sTroller, aside from other hate-filled inbreds that blame the hand that fed them for their own inadequacies?


    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    If you are 'curious to learn', sTroller, try the www or follow that other idiot's ploy of going to uni in the hope of disguising severe character deficiencies.
    Hmm, have a guess where I was looking, and what kind of establishment, you may passed close enough to see from the outside on your way to the dole office, I attended, genius?[/QUOTE]

    Huh? - try jermin and I'll run it through a translator.

    Dole office? Last time I was on the dole was between school and college, prising the princely sum of £2 and shrapnel per week, and far from retiring on benefits I still pay tax in the UK. There you go, now, how much dole have you scrounged through your miserable, pointless existence, and how much does your gov happily pay you to wither away in the boondocks?


    [/QUOTE]Anyway, I didn't know you were called Daffy, or why did you feel like not-answering the question for him?[/QUOTE]

    No I'm not called Daffy, I'm keda, so no need to be cryptic, wtf are you on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat
    First I am from Florida, USA and if we did occupy Cuba the Cubans there in Cuba and In Miami would love us and support us. Period.
    Just like the Iraqis do. Period.
    Oh dear . . . another deluded 'everyone loves us and envies us our lifestyle' sad git

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    I guess in your tiny mind only djoos and fools could possibly support Israel
    You mean, just as only Nazis and anti-semitic moonbats would criticise it?




    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    if you really must know my roots are firmly entrenched in islam.
    Ah, a self-hating former disciple of the Almighty, I should have guessed. This explains the deep-seated, seething hatred.

    One of those who were generously sponsored by the PC-nutters at taxpayers' expense to get an education in Blighty, I suppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    if you really must know my roots are firmly entrenched in islam.
    Ah, a self-hating former disciple of the Almighty, I should have guessed. This explains the deep-seated, seething hatred.

    One of those who were generously sponsored by the PC-nutters at taxpayers' expense to get an education in Blighty, I suppose?
    Yes, also grateful and proud of it, otherwise I might still be shitting in the dunes and mindlessly calling for the death of infidels with the rest of your mates.

    Anyway my taxes through 35 years have more than paid for it, though you still haven't reciprocated - how much have you scrounged from your gov, and how much do they pay you to wither away your miserable existence in the boondocks?

    Btw, I can see neither the humour in your remarks nor what you of all people are gloating at.

    Ptooh! nazi pigswill.

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    it's funny how American conservatives like to take it in the ass by Israel,
    how is it different from taking it in the ass by those dirty middle east Muslims ? after all, they are all cousins !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    Yes, also grateful and proud of it, otherwise I might still be shitting in the dunes and mindlessly calling for the death of infidels with the rest of your mates.
    Bow to the leftist PC-nutters who enabled you to mimick the appearance of being a civilised human, Abdullah.

    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    how much have you scrounged from your gov, and how much do they pay you to wither away your miserable existence in the boondocks?
    I received unemployment benefit for 3 months between working and going to one of those places you may have read about in "The Sun", called university.
    Otherwise zero.

    I admit you beat me hands down for scrounging, one might wish you'd be more appreciative, Britain is an excellent place to be introduced to civilisation.

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    Sad person you are, sTroller, very sad indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat
    I fail to see where chitown said anything about occuping Cuba.
    He didn't- but Israel occupies Palestine. So if you are to make an analogy, make it a correct one. A more correct analogy to Cuba/America would be, say, Syria/Israel. A more correct analogy to Israel/Palestine would be US/Iraq.
    For the umteeth time, Israel does not occupy Palestine no more than America occupies parts of Mexico...jeeeze - get a clue...

    Firing rockets into another nation is an act of war. Israel has every right to do everything they can to exterminate these terrorist scumbags. Let's hope that Hamas and the Palestinian state are crippled after this attack. The only remaining path to peace is a military victory by Israel. Hamas and the Palestinians have broken too many promises, the time has come to crush them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post


    For the umteeth time, Israel does not occupy Palestine no more than America occupies parts of Mexico...jeeeze - get a clue...
    Its universally accepted that Israel DOES in fact occupy parts of Palestine.


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    The Golan Heights plateau overlooking the site of the ancient city of Hippos


    The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories captured by Israel from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria during the Six-Day War of 1967, consisting of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights, and, until 1979, the Sinai Peninsula. The United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 242 following the war in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.
    Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt as part of the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. Although Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza by September 2005, it has held the territory under an embargo since January 2006.

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    Shit, let's hope this isn't the beginning of WW3. Judging by the amount of peace, love and understanding in this thread we may as well start blowing ourselves up.

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    We are all Hamas now. The brothers of Hezbollah need to join the struggle.

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    By Kurt Nimmo
    Israel is using U.S. munitions against the Palestinians. From the Jerusalem Post:
    The Israel Air Force used a new bunker-buster missile that it received recently from the United States in strikes against Hamas targets in the Gaza Strip on Saturday, The Jerusalem Post learned on Sunday.

    The missile, called GBU-39, was developed in recent years by the US as a small-diameter bomb for low-cost, high-precision and low collateral damage strikes.
    The claim that Israel is employing the bomb because it minimizes “collateral damage” is sadistically absurd, to say the least — the Gaza Strip is incontestably the most populated tract of land on earth and any munition, even a “smart” one, will undoubtedly cause “collateral damage.” The 1.3 million Palestinians living on the Gaza Strip are little more than fish in a barrel due to the fact Israel controls Gaza’s airspace, coast and most of its borders.

    Israel received approval from Congress to purchase 1,000 units in September and defense officials said on Sunday that the first shipment had arrived earlier this month and was used successfully in penetrating underground Kassam launchers in the Gaza Strip during the heavy aerial bombardment of Hamas infrastructure on Saturday. It was also used in Sunday’s bombing of tunnels in Rafah.

    Yaakov Katz, writing for the Jerusalem Post, fails to mention that the tunnels are also used to smuggle food and medicine, items the Israelis have blocked from entering Gaza. “Merchants invented the system,” writes Amira Hass. “The tunnels are not only for weapons and drugs, but for medicine, basic food commodities and cigarettes, at prices much more suitable for poverty-stricken Rafah. They are a way to break an economic siege. The weapons in the hands of the armed men of Rafah prove that the tunnels are not being used to smuggle sophisticated weapons. Nonetheless, the tunnels have turned into a scarecrow that justifies every strike at civilian lives and civilian property.”
    On Sunday, head of the Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration Col. Moshe Levy was interviewed by several Arab news outlets during which he stressed that Israel was not against the Palestinian public in Gaza but was operating against Hamas.
    It should be noted that Hamas claimed 76 of the 132 parliamentary seats in 2006, as the Washington Post reported at the time. Fatah won only 43 seats, mostly because many Palestinians realized the organization was heavily comprised, corrupt, and in league with Israeli intelligence and the CIA. Fatah’s relationship with the CIA became apparent last year when Fatah security compounds in Gaza were raided by Hamas — “they found huge supplies of American-made weaponry including 7,400 M-16 assault rifles, dozens of mounted machine guns, rocket launchers, seven armored military jeeps, 800,000 rounds of bullets and 18 US-made armored personnel carriers,” writes Mike Whitney, who cites Aaron Klein of WorldNetDaily.

    They also discovered something far more valuable — CIA files which purportedly contain “information about the collaboration between Fatah and the Israeli and American security organizations; CIA methods on how to prevent attacks, chase and follow after cells of Hamas and the Committees; plans about Fatah assassinations of members of Hamas and other organizations; and American studies on the security situation in Gaza.

    “Fatah equals CIA is not a good selling point,” mused Robert Baer, a former Middle East CIA operations officer. “Baer is right. The uncovering of the documents is ‘big trouble’ for Abbas who is already facing a loss of public confidence from his closeness to Israel and for his appointment of Salam Fayyad, the ex-World bank official who the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz calls ‘everyone’s favorite Palestinian,’” adds Whitney.
    A “favorite Palestinian” for the globalists and banksters, not the Palestinian people.
    The corporate media in the U.S. has bent over backwards to portray Hamas as the villain in the latest round of mass murder and carnage. In fact, Hamas has attempted to implement a ceasefire with Israel on numerous occasions. “Israel rejected a cease-fire offer from the Palestinian group Hamas as a humanitarian aid crisis erupting in the Gaza Strip threatened wider instability,” the Christian Science Monitor reported in April. “[The] Palestinian group offered to cease cross-border rocket attacks if Israel opens crossing points into Gaza and ends military incursions into the Palestinian territory,” Al Jazeera reported.

    In fact, Israel is notorious for violating ceasefires. For instance, on June 19, 2008, Hamas and the Palestine Information Center accused the Israelis of violating an agreed upon ceasefire three times on the first day of its implementation. “The Center reported that Israeli navy boats fired four shells at fishermen in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, while soldiers opened fire at farmers east of Khan Younis, in the southern part of the Gaza Strip,” the media center reported on its website. “Also, eyewitnesses reported that soldiers fired at farmers in Khuza’a town, near Khan Younis, and fired at a number of houses in AL Qarara town, east of the city.”

    Israel fully exploited a Hamas declaration on December 19 to not renew the above ceasefire “because the Zionist enemy has failed to respect the conditions,” according to Joshua Lapide, reporting for Asia News. “The Israeli government blames Hamas for not stopping attacks often carried out by smaller Palestinian factions, while the Islamists claim Israel also broke the truce by failing to lift its blockade of the impoverished territory. Israel responded to a surge of violence in early November by tightening sanctions and closing crossing points with Gaza, halting deliveries of humanitarian aid and other supplies, basically transforming the Strip into one huge gulag.”
    Jonathan Cook, writing for ZNet, details Israel’s brutal recruitment of Palestinian collaborators. “Recent reports in the Israeli media, for example, suggest that the 2005 withdrawal from Gaza, far from reducing the opportunities for collaboration, may actually have increased them. The current siege of the Strip — in which Israel effectively governs all movement in and out of Gaza — has provided an ideal point of leverage for encouraging collusion… In the past 17 years alone, 150,000 Palestinians have been prosecuted by the military regime. According to the Israeli group Yesh Din, 95 per cent of these trials end in plea bargains, offering yet another chance to persuade a detainee to turn informant in return for a reduced sentence.”

    Is it possible the above mentioned “smaller Palestinian factions” engaging in attacks are false flag groups unleashed to ensure an Israeli pretext – in fact, A New World Order pretext – for continued violence against the Palestinian people and make sure there is never an agreeable peace deal between the two?
    In 2002, “Palestinian security forces … arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda terrorist network,” the Sydney Morning Herald reported. “The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.” An anonymous Palestinian official told the newspaper the alleged collaborators sought to “discredit the Palestinian people, justify every Israeli crime and provide reasons to carry out a new (military) aggression in the Gaza Strip.”
    As noted on December 22, the “less influential Islamic Jihad was behind most of the rocket attacks” on Israel, although Hamas has approved of such attacks.
    Both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad were created by the Muslim Brotherhood, a documented CIA and British intelligence asset. “According to CIA agent Miles Copeland, the Americans began looking for a Muslim Billy Graham around 1955,” writes Said Aburish in his book, A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite. “When finding or creating a Muslim Billy Graham proved elusive, the CIA began to cooperate with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim mass organization founded in Egypt but with followers throughout the Arab Middle East… This signaled the beginning of an alliance between the traditional regimes and mass Islamic movements against Nasser and other secular forces.”

    It is also a documented fact that Israeli intelligence created Hamas as a counterweight to the PLO and Arab nationalism. Israel “aided Hamas directly — the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO ,” Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies, told UPI correspondent Richard Sale. “According to documents United Press International obtained from the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism, Hamas evolved from cells of the Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928,” writes Sale (see Yossi Schwartz, Palestine: The origins of Hamas and its role today).

    As Peter D. Goodgame details in The Globalists and the Islamists: Fomenting the “Clash of Civilizations” for a New World Order, the Muslim Brotherhood and its offshoots and related manifestations are part of a larger plan on the part of the ruling elite to destabilize Muslim and Arab societies and thus curtail the “threatened invasion by overpopulated Asiatic countries,” as a leading Australian scientist suggested in a secret report to the Australian Defense Department in 1947.
    Goodgame writes:

    This explosion of violence throughout the Middle East in the late ’70s and early ’80s was referred to by Zbigniew Brzezinski as the “Arc of Crisis.” It was not something that occurred by chance, but was in fact the result of the deliberate plan developed by the Globalist strategists such as Dr. Alexander King, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski and British operative Dr. Bernard Lewis. The Middle Eastern “Arc of Crisis” was not a spontaneous internal conflagration, it was something that came about as a result of Western policy in league with the Muslim Brotherhood. Without help from the West radical Islam would have remained the illegitimate, repressive minority movement that it has always been, and the Middle East would have remained stable and prosperous.
    Israel undoubtedly has it own imperialistic and chauvinistic reasons for long brutalizing the Palestinians — as documented by Ralph Schoenman in his book The Hidden History of Zionism — but at the end of the day Israel is essentially a client state not so much under the control of the United States as the New World Order and the eugenicists of the global elite.

    (On a side note: the ultimate creation of the state of Israel was a pet project of the Rothschild banking dynasty. Baron Edmond James (Avrahim Binyamin) de Rothschild (1845-1934) is the known as the “Father of the Settlement” (Avi ha-Yishuv). In 1982, Israel released a commemorative Independence Day coin bearing Rothschild’s likeness.)
    Bush and Obama have deferred to this ongoing plan to victimize the Palestinians. Earlier today, the Bush administration placed the blame for Israelis bombing of the densely populated Gaza Strip — apparently including the use of GBU-39 missiles provided by the United States — squarely on Hamas (see the above video).
    “Mr. Obama’s election has raised expectations, among allies and enemies alike, that new American policies are forthcoming, putting more pressure on him to signal more quickly what he intends to do. In the case of Israel and the Palestinians, Mr. Obama has not suggested he has any better ideas than President Bush had to resolve the existential conflict between the Israelis and Hamas, the Palestinian group that controls Gaza,” reports the New York Times.

    Indeed, Obama has not “suggested he has any better ideas than President Bush” because both take orders from the global elite and do not actually formulate policies of their own. As for the “existential conflict” in the OccupiedTerritories, it is part of a larger Malthusian plan on the part of our eugenicist rulers, a plan spelled out well in advance by the United Nations, the Club of Rome, the Tavistock and Aspen Institutes.

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    Should be very easy for Daffy to educate the "idiots" and post some figures or statistics. I could not find much on the net, but that only confirms that I am "willfully ignorant", I suppose.
    Exactly, and me making any further effort to provide facts or information is pointless anyway - you'll just find another strawman.

    F' this.

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    Zionist plot to raise the price of oil and enrich the arab states and Iran

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    Perfect strategy, confuses the fools even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
    Should be very easy for Daffy to educate the "idiots" and post some figures or statistics. I could not find much on the net, but that only confirms that I am "willfully ignorant", I suppose.
    Exactly, and me making any further effort to provide facts or information is pointless anyway - you'll just find another strawman.

    F' this.
    You could just admit you don't know what you're talking about.

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    You could just admit you don't know what you're talking about.
    So could you,, but it ain't gonna happen.

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    US Veto Blocks UN Anti-Israel Resolution

    December 28, 2008 "Press TV" -- -The UN Security Council has been unable to force an end to Israeli attacks against Gaza due to the intervention of the United States.Washington once again used its veto powers on Sunday to block a resolution calling for an end to the massive ongoing Israeli attacks against the Gaza Strip.

    The council has only been able to issue a 'non-binding' statement that calls on Israel to voluntarily bring all its military activities in the besieged region to an immediate end.

    The statement comes as Israel has begun a fresh wave of air strikes on Gaza on Sunday, killing at least six people. At least 230 people were killed and 800 wounded in similar attacks on Saturday. The number of Palestinians deaths has so far risen to 271.

    The council called on the parties to address the humanitarian crisis in the territory but has not criticized the Israeli air attacks.

    Croatian UN Ambassador Neven Jurica read out the non-binding statement on behalf of the 15-member body that "called for an immediate halt to all violence" and on the parties "to stop immediately all military activities."

    "The members of the Security Council expressed serious concern at the escalation of the situation in Gaza," he said, as the president of the council.

    [at] US Veto Blocks UN Anti-Israel Resolution[at][at][at][at][at][at][at][at][at][at][at] : Information Clearing House - ICH


    The council also requested the opening of border crossings into Gaza to address the serious humanitarian and economic needs in Gaza and to ensure medical treatment and a continuous supply of food and fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    but Israel occupies Palestine.
    Israel does not occupy PALESTINE,, there is not, never has ever been, and never will be a stare called Palestine, the Jews might occupy the space where some palestine people lived and said that they would run the jews into the sea or kill them where they stood, but never a place called Palestine.
    There is a place callede Israel, and into that is where the palestines shoot rockets on a daily basis for the last few years and that is why the jews are smoking the ground under the palestines feet, ground that they have given the palestines to live on if they had any sense they would leave the Israeli alone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    December 28, 2008 "Press TV" -- -The UN Security Council has been unable to force an end to Israeli attacks against Gaza due to the intervention of the United States.Washington once again used its veto powers on Sunday to block a resolution calling for an end to the massive ongoing Israeli attacks against the Gaza Strip.
    USA using its proxy to attack Muslims.
    All they are going to achieve is to breed more radicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    All they are going to achieve is to breed more radicals
    yeah, yeah, same old swan song, they were breeding plenty of radicals long before and will continue to breed many more long after.. at least this way they are keeping the numbers somewhat status quo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    there is not, never has ever been, and never will be a stare called Palestine
    and

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    There is a place callede Israel.
    Could be the iniquity that is causing a lot of the problems...

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    Israel Bombs Gaza30-12-2008 04:17 PMmad_dogno no no

    OK stupid, show us where it was/is on "your" map because it has never been on any other map, they cry and stupid people listen, but they have never had a homeland and if they wouldn't have fucked with the jews and made the brag that they would run them into the sea or kill them then they would have been able to share with the jews and live in peace, but now they are aLL going to have to die, and if I was a tad younger there is one war still to fight.

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