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Milkman

Here is an interesting take from one of the Delta Force guys involved. I'll post the entire youtube video of the interview when I find it.

Link & Entire: Elite Officer Recalls Bin Laden Hunt, Delta Force Commander Says The Best Plan To Kill The Al Qaeda Leader In 2001 Was Nixed - CBS News

Here's a brief Youtube of the 60 Minutes interview.

I am searching now, for the full interview and will post it when I find it.

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Panda

"He calls himself "Dalton Fury," and is the author of "Kill Bin Laden," a new book out this week."

blackgang

^, Thats correct, and everything in the book is top secret so if anyone ever verifies anything then "Dalton Fury" will have to kill them on the spot.
So you will just have to believe everything in the book as fact without any "LINKS" that most people on here require.

sabang

WASHINGTON - New evidence from former United States officials reveals that Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders were able to skip Afghanistan for Pakistan unimpeded in the first weeks after September 11, 2001, as the George W Bush administration failed to plan to block their retreat.

Top administration officials instead gave priority to planning for war with Iraq, leaving the United States with not nearly enough troops or strategic airlift capacity to close the large number of possible exit routes through the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area where Bin Laden escaped in late 2001.

Because it had not been directed to plan for that contingency, the US military was also forced to turn down an offer from then Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf in late November 2001 to send 60,000 troops to intercept the al-Qaeda leaders.

As Northern Alliance troops marched on Kabul with little resistance in November 2001, the Central Intelligence Agency had intelligence that Bin Laden was headed for a cave complex in the Tora Bora Mountains close to the Pakistani border.

The war had ended only days earlier, much more quickly than expected, and United States Central Command (CENTCOM) commander Tommy Franks, responsible for the war in Afghanistan, had no forces in position to block bin Laden's exit.


...The views of Bush's key advisers, however, ruled out any such plan from the start. During the summer of 2001 Rumsfeld refused to develop contingency plans for military action against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, despite a National Security Presidential Directive that called for such planning, according to the 9-11 Commission report.

Rumsfeld and deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz resisted such planning for Afghanistan because they were hoping that the White House would move quickly on military intervention in Iraq. According to the 9-11 Commission, at four deputies' meetings on Iraq between May 31 and July 26, 2001, Wolfowitz pushed his idea to have US troops seize all the oil fields in southern Iraq.

Even after September 11, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Vice President Dick Cheney continued to resist any military engagement in Afghanistan, because they were hoping for war against Iraq instead.

Bush's top secret order of September 17 for war with Afghanistan also directed the Pentagon to begin planning for an invasion of Iraq, according to journalist James Bamford's book Pretext for War.

Cheney and Rumsfeld pushed for a quick victory in Afghanistan in NSC meetings in October, as recounted by both Woodward and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith. Lost in the eagerness to wrap up the Taliban and get on with the Iraq War was any possibility of preventing Bin Laden's escape to Pakistan.

Full Article- Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan

I think most people have realised this already- it was not a high priority of the Bush administration to capture Bin Laden, neither was it their first priority to destroy AQ & the Taliban. They wanted to achieve a quick, cosmetic overthrow of the Afghan Talibani government, then press on with their real geostrategic priority- Iraqi Oil.

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pai nai ma

interesting. the USA effectively missed osama because we were so fixated on iraq.

blackgang

Nothing so really unusual about that,, Just like some folks on here so busy bad mouthing Bush and the USA in general and throwing flamables on the fire that they can't see or cover up things that are being done by other countrys that are as bad or worse.
Do ya see what I mean there Sabangy??

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sabang

Sometimes ya get fixated on one thing, and miss another. That can happen.

We'll see what reasons, if any, will be given for the failure to finish the job with AQ & the Tali's before tilting at Iraq, but you know my view- I reckon it was a horrible blunder.

Butterfly

Osama is a CIA friend, why would they want to catch him ? without 911 Bush would have been kicked out of office within one year, and the NeoCons couldn't go along with their funny plan of invading Iraq without a clown taking all the hits,

AntRobertson

Mysterious and secretive my arse! They're merely in hiding because when Chuck Norris was making his documentary film Delta Force they were afraid that they couldn't live up to his expectations and he'd roundhouse kick them.

Milkman

They never wanted to get Bin Laden, IMO.

It's better for the US neo-cons to have the bogey man out there. He can hurt you.

Texpat

You're starting to get it now Milky ...

You think North Korea posed much of a threat all these years?

Don't kid yourself.

Texpat

If it's such an imminent and pervasive threat, why is the US using only around 20 percent of it's military capability in combating it?

It's all about perspective.

machangezi

Well, he is in Pakistan and soon the new U.S president is gonna get valuable intelligence that he is there and bomb those tribes.

I don't know which location is Osama gonna choose after Pakistan??

Texpat

Why doesn't Pakistan get him if they know where he is?
Why doesn't Britain send Harold after him? They have the best intel in the world, just ask them.

Golly, either could really show the US up and strut around for a few decades like bmoc.

Let's see it Macha. Where's that valuable intel?

machangezi

Because we love him and are willing to sacrifice our lives for him.

Texpat

Yeah, I saw the party they held for him at the Islamabad Marriott two weeks ago. Quite a blow out.

machangezi

But isn't that what the common American believes to be true about Pakis now??

Texpat

Sure, Macha... whatever.

You're falling in line with the TD penchant for describing the common American.

Keep swinging. You're bound to hit the ball sooner or later.

I suggest starting in very general terms -- like they all breathe and they all have two eyes.

Beyond that you start down a slippery slope. Just ask the 2.5 million Muslims living in the US.

Pakistanis Find U.S. an Easier Fit Than Britain - New York Times

machangezi

I just asked. What is wrong Taxi.......isn't that what your gonna be leaders are feeding you all through the media??

See what I mean Taxi?? and what is all the bullshit about Pakistan being a threat to Israel?? Why are the Leaders of the U.S worried about Israel??

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