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Old 21-09-2008, 07:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes, even a yank or two among their ranks.
Do you mean the American Talib caught in Afghanistan at Qila Janghi fighting shoulder to shoulder with the Taliban. I heard he's in Victorville state prison serving his twenty years sentence quite unlike his comrades who are still struggling for a trial in Gitmo. Another American hypocrisy? Why the fuck should Pakis kill Pakis just because you retards are paranoid? You retards have pissed the whole world with your abusrd moves. Now get over it. It is a risk-return trade off which every American, including you, has to get on with it. Everytime Merikans presses the gas on their SUVs, they should consider in to their calculations that it is the blood of middle easterns running their SUVs.
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Old 21-09-2008, 09:31 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I guess the new PM's deals with the Taliban in Wazirifuckistan didn't work out too well.
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Old 22-09-2008, 12:43 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I'll slow it down for Ant. He's struggling.

AQ is not defined by by country of origin.

So when you rightly claim that many 9-11 hijackers were Saudis, it doesn't mean they're representing their government. Just as when I claim AQ is now deeply rooted in Pakistan, it doesn't mean they're all Pakis.

It's called trans-national terrorism. They need a place to train in killing innocent men, women and children for no reason other than they're non-believing infidels. Yes, Ant, just like you, your wife and your boys, I would imagine. Their current office is set up in Pakistan after the US forces rustled them out of Afghanistan.

If Pakistan is protecting them, or providing aid (like using Paki Army helos to shuttle supplies between AQ camps within Afghanistan (or Pakland) they are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

Increasingly, they're being revealed as playing both ends against the middle. Their little house of cards will fall sooner, rather than later. It's almost Thai-like cleverness. (Aren't I a clever kunt?)

Macha seems to be outraged that an American might enter Pakistan chasing terrorists, but seems to have no problem with Pakistan (our ally) attacking Americans in Afghanistan. In reality, Pakistan was just less of a problem when AQ was in Afghanistan. Now the roles are reversing.

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Old 22-09-2008, 01:05 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Wow, that was awesome, Texpat.

The Saudi terrorists do not represent the Saudi gov, who would have thought?

I hope you'll get some more books from the library to educate yourself.
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Old 22-09-2008, 01:11 AM   #65 (permalink)
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This inhumane act has CIA written all over it.
At first I thought the TeleTubbies are behind this


Ahhhhhh, the old muslim sorrow song. And Macha showing his true face again. Macha, I think you are also ready for such an terrible act. I don't trust you as far as I can throw my 2 door Samsung refrigerator.

Macha, a true muslim always ready for self-criticism.
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Yes, the CIA, Teletubbies or Aliens.

Gotta be one of those.

Can't be the pissed off jihadists we allowed to live in our back yard -- bombing one of our biggest hotels at sundown during Ramadan!

That wouldn't be very nice of them, would it?
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Why the fuck should Pakis kill Pakis just because you retards are paranoid?

Or else you would'nt be collecting billions of dollars from the west,

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Or else you would'nt be collecting billions of dollars from the west,
One can always play the yanks for a buck or two, but you Yids are just to stingy to gamble a single cent if your life depended on it.
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That's an excellent description: "hijacked religion".
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Or else you would'nt be collecting billions of dollars from the west,
One can always play the yanks for a buck or two, but you Yids are just to stingy to gamble a single cent if your life depended on it.

Ever heard of Lehmanns Brothers and Morgan Stanley? Those yids just got the world banks in turmoil!
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No doubt the usual convoluted reasoning will kick in to justify it as retaliation for some contrived American interference and or action or inaction...nothing to do with a hijacked religion.
Don't be such a prick. Do you enjoy this kind of thing because it gives you an excuse to trot out your twisted reasoning? Don't you have any understanding at all about world affairs or world politics? Not everything has to do with America, or religion, you know, get over yourself. Must be very comforting to view the world in such simplistic terms. Sometimes, when I'm drunk and only for a microsecond or two, I envy your simplicity.
No understanding at all. It has nothing to do with the scourge, or any part of the islamic religion for that matter.

Btw, should we regurgitate the same ground we've been plodding through with no concensus for as long as I care to recall, so that your version of 'world affairs' and 'world politics' are clearly muddled each time allah's Finest score a victory in his/her/its name?

I suggest you get drunk more often.

Don't take offense, he didn't understand your post.
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The absurdity of that reasoning doesn't kick in until you take it to the next logical step.

Q. What do you want?
A. Get out of Islamic countries.
Q. You mean all western businesses, hotels, restaurants, TV, culture ..blahblahblah?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you happy now?
A. No. You've abandoned us, neglected us and are ignoring our plight. Pay us now.
Q. How much?
A. Everything.

Britain: OK.

Comical, but isn't it less-than-amazing how many of the worlds problems are solved by: "give me money".

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Half this board cheers when some American soldier gets his head blown off.
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Shall I sign you up to be in the non-cheering section then? Or are you suggesting my figures are wrong?
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Btw, should we regurgitate the same ground we've been plodding through with no concensus for as long as I care to recall, so that your version of 'world affairs' and 'world politics' are clearly muddled each time allah's Finest score a victory in his/her/its name?

I suggest you get drunk more often.
I suggest that if you want to argue with me you read my posts so that you actually know what I'm saying. I do not support "Allahs Finest" or any other fanatic, I suggest you get your paranoid head out of your muslim-fearing ass and make an attempt to understand what people have written. I don't care about consensus with you or anybody else who can't be bothered making an attempt to see the big picture. I despise murderers, terrorists, and fanatics no matter whose side they're on but I want to know how they work, what they think, and why they do it. Not so they can be appeased or negotiated with but because knowing those things is a vital step on the way to wiping them out.
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No doubt the usual convoluted reasoning will kick in to justify it as retaliation for some contrived American interference and or action or inaction...nothing to do with a hijacked religion.
Don't be such a prick. Do you enjoy this kind of thing because it gives you an excuse to trot out your twisted reasoning? Don't you have any understanding at all about world affairs or world politics? Not everything has to do with America, or religion, you know, get over yourself. Must be very comforting to view the world in such simplistic terms. Sometimes, when I'm drunk and only for a microsecond or two, I envy your simplicity.
No understanding at all. It has nothing to do with the scourge, or any part of the islamic religion for that matter.

Btw, should we regurgitate the same ground we've been plodding through with no concensus for as long as I care to recall, so that your version of 'world affairs' and 'world politics' are clearly muddled each time allah's Finest score a victory in his/her/its name?

I suggest you get drunk more often.

Don't take offense, he didn't understand your post.
And who said you could speak for me, you halfwit?
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Bollox, get over yourself. It's never fun and games when innocent people are killed. It doesn't matter if they're an Afghan wedding party, bankers in New York, or hotel guests in Pakistan. Wherever they were and whoever killed them it's still evil, it's still wrong. You want to make some political point, to me that makes you as inhuman as the bombers, real people died - maybe their last thoughts were something as banal as wanting a sandwich or needing a piss and then they were blown apart or died in flames. I don't give a fuck about the rights and wrongs or the politics, if you think this proves a point about America or about Islam then you're as fucked in the head as the killers. This, as with all the other atrocities we've heard about over the last few years is purely and simply evil, what kind of a human being hears about an atrocity likes this and then says the people who died deserved it? How are you different than the cnuts who danced in the streets when they heard about 9/11? How can you even think about even one person dying like this and cold-bloodedly factor it into being a lesson for the pakis or anybody else? Repulsive!
Sorry doc, I may have read it wrong but it sure seems that you think once an atrocity such as this is posted there's little to nothing worth discussing. This isn't a newsroom!

Yes you are right that many innocent people have died and will continue to die in the name of allah, and whether or not that's palatable to me, you, or anyone else. And you are also right that these terrible things do not just happen by chance, each is both cause and effect, influencing and influenced by world events and world politics. That does not alter the fact that they're happening.

As to the pathological haters that persistently claim 911 and other victims of islamic terror 'deserve' it, especially if they're American or Jewish...sorry again, but that sort of thing has been an ongoing event on TD for as long as I've been here. While such things are repugnant to reason, I do not need to mention who the prime movers are because I suspect every poster with more than half a brain already knows who they are. Do these people 'deserve' at least a passing reprimand, or should they be tolerated because decent people not just on TD but around the world are already conditioned to expect no less from savages?

I believe there was a recent thread specifically asking if the US had it coming, and I do not recall much that could be rated as outrage from any of the usual suspects at such an inflammatory proposal. If you are aware of the thread in question, why do you think that is?
"...expect no less from savages?"

We westerners are held to a higher standard, which is as it should be.
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May be a religious civil war, though some may argue in a muslim country religion and politics are too close to call.


We'll soon be given the alleged reason for this particular atrocity, and no doubt the cheerleaders will be backslapping each other for zealously agreeing that the US are ultimately to blame, conveniently falling for the misconception that atrocities committed in the name of allah, claimed as retaliation for an event or policy, have anything to do with the touted reasons.
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