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pickel

Toasting to the deaths of babies? Ah... the ugly american.

AntRobertson

Check under your bed tonight Tex, there might be a Muslim hiding there next to the Red.

You don't even pretend to address actual points anymore do you. Straight in with the ad hominem and strawmen. You've got nothing.

keda

Just a wild guess, mind you, but I suspect babies/women/civvies killed by the US were not specifically targeted for an early death.

Could be wrong but I also suspect the murder of those soft targets is, by contrast, a perfectly acceptable abomination for martyrdom, which as we know is merely an earthly wank compared to the joys of eternal debauchrey at the home of Allah.

AntRobertson

Oh great, well that makes it all better then!

keda

Wish I knew he was babbling about, but if I say he's on ignore he'll say I'm lying because he isn't...he's like that, y'know.

I suspect he'll end up as a mod soon.

Accidental Ajarn

If anyone bothered to read the WHOLE story, there were very conflicting accounts of the incident.

For the lefties here, anything the US states is all lies and anything Ali, cousin to the local Taliban leader, tells a left wing reporter is gospel truth.

Anyone with any sense knows the US Army does not target civilians and tries to avoid civilian deaths, also anyone with any sense knows that fighting where good guys and bad guys are not all wearing easily identifiable uniforms will lead to different interpretations of who has actually been killed in an exchange.

I wasn’t there, and media reports are conflicting, so it is difficult for me to be assured of what happened.

But not the lefties. If someone somewhere said Americans did a bad thing, it must be true, so goes the thinking of the die hard lefties found here.

Jet Gorgon

^ True, AA. What would the lefties do if Bambam became prez? Who would they turn their hateful beady eyes on then? Japan? Russia? The thing is, they've enjoyed bashing America for so long, they'd likely have to go into therapy to treat their withdrawal symptoms.
But there are many, Tex. What do those guys do before they get their arranged marriages, other than playing around with sheep, of course?

Bugs

I fail to see why folks even respond to blatant troll thread like these (never mind my post I am drunk). No one wants innocent children or adults to die in war time or peace time – no one (well maybe a few nut cases). But in war it happens. No excuses – it happens.

Yes, it is a shame. No we don’t want to see more of it happen. Some folks think the end to all war is the answer – they will no doubt still be waiting for the end of all wars right around until the end of human kind. Does that make their plight any less valid? No. But does it make their plight any more realistic? No.

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attaboy

Mods, can this topic be moved to the Middle East forum?

attaboy

Please don't tell me another goat grazing range argument resulted in an Afghani calling in a US air strike on his neighbor one village over. Get the US to do it and blame them. The US can be on the receiving end of a 1000 year vendetta celebrated monthly lest anyone forget.

You're absolutely right tex. None of those things are useful to a society based on brute force and gang violence.


None of the leftoes here chose to believe the Taliban and those they have intimidated with death and torture would ever use the media to engage in propaganda warfare. It's all true from them and all lies from us. Us being the camp the leftoes comfortably and safely sleep in at night and criticize during the day.

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AntRobertson

The same Taliban that the US supported you mean. Just like they supported Saddam or any one of the other dictators they helped prop up because it suited them at the time. Just how many democratically elected governments has the US had a hand in toppling now anyways?

You're absolutely right atta.

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Entire generations were beaten, raped, murdered, forced to live, eat, sleep, drink and exist apart. Denied housing, jobs and even basic freedoms... All because of the color of their skin. And then some red-necked, inbred hillbilly says: 'Chris Rock said "nigga" on TV but I'm not allowed to say "nigger", that's PC! That's racist!'. It's neither, it's just more ignorance.

attaboy

Ok Ant... tell us how the USA supported the Taliban. Include the links.... Here's my link.

http://www.zharov.com/afghan/taliban.html

So the USA supported the mujahadeen. The Taliban didn't exist yet.

How many of those democratically elected governments had an honest election? And how many of them were communist? Let's separate those out. I'll be damned if we should have let communism spread. We've seen the Soviet and Chinese models and they would have been the benefactors of the nascent communist satellites. It was a game of chess and the correct side won. Whine about it, write a book about it and theorize the evil of it. It doesn't sell in the real world where really bad people seek to dominate and brutalize others.

Tell us how the ugly USA aborted the maturation of the Soviet Union. Tell me how the Soviet Union never had a chance to blossom from a country subjected to a leadership of paranoid murdering criminals. Tell me how long the rest of the world and its peoples should have suffered while the Soviet criminals got their act together and dropped the knives the leadership had at each others backs. The fking Dance of the Rats; all of them circling with their knives at the next man's back, paranoid out of their minds, murdering before being murdered. How long does it take humans to settle down in that kind of environment?