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Old 28-08-2008, 10:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Makes one wonder how many suicide bombers are brainwashed, drugged and wired.
How many are truly commited.
This is an evil weapon!
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Old 28-08-2008, 10:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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LOL....suicide bomber "disarmed"......better than "Suicide bomber loses her head" I suppose.

OK. My bad.
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Old 28-08-2008, 10:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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^^Reports from the battle for Falujah stated that insurgents were high and kept shoting when hit. Soldiers clearing out buildings wold find vials and pill bottles for morphine and ketamine.
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Old 28-08-2008, 10:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Drugs and when used as a combat weapon is not new news.

The vietnam war was driven and fought by hallucination and thats why we witnessed such macabre events.
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Old 28-08-2008, 11:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Sure, 9/11 provoked the Iraqi attack
Um, no, it didn't.
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Old 28-08-2008, 12:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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these countries have plenty of oil money. rich feking rag heads with no morals and a peodo prophet!
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:04 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Sure, 9/11 provoked the Iraqi attack
Um, no, it didn't.
But Bush claimed that Saddam was behind and complicit in the 9/11 plot.

One of you is wrong.
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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linky?

Bush might have said Iraq harbors terrorists.
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bush might have said Iraq harbors terrorists.
No mights about it, he said plenty more than that:

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In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.
Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. Still, the overall effect was to reinforce an impression that persists among much of the American public: that the Iraqi dictator did play a direct role in the attacks. A New York Times/CBS poll this week shows that 45 percent of Americans believe Mr. Hussein was "personally involved" in Sept. 11, about the same figure as a month ago.
The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq | csmonitor.com

Bush repeatedly and strenuously linked Iraq to al-Qaida and the 9/11 attacks. This despite being told by his own agencies shortly after that there was no credible link between the two (Report: 9/11-Iraq link refuted immediately - Security - MSNBC.com).
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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To justify the war, Bush informed Congress on March 19, 2003 that acting against Iraq was consistent with “continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”
As ThinkProgress has repeatedly documented, Vice President Cheney cited “evidence” cooked up by Douglas Feith and others to claim it was “pretty well confirmed” that Iraq had contacts with 9/11 hijackers.
More generally, in the lead-up to the war in Iraq, the administration encouraged the false impression that Saddam had a role in 9/11. Bush never stated then, as he does now, that Iraq had “nothing” to do with 9/11. Only after the Iraq war began did Bush candidly acknowledge that Iraq was not operationally linked to 9/11.
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BUSH: The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.
QUESTION: What did Iraq have to do with it?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?
QUESTION: The attack on the World Trade Center.
BUSH: Nothing. Except its part of and nobody has suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a Iraq the lesson of September 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobodys ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.
Think Progress Bush Now Says What He Wouldnt Say Before War: Iraq Had Nothing To Do With 9/11
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Sorta says it all, eh?
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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QUESTION: What did Iraq have to do with it?
Bush: Nothing.
Sorta says it all, eh?
Are you trying to be as disingenuous and duplicitous as he was or are you just really, really, really easily led?

If Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 then why did he only finally admit what everyone else already knew after he had used it as a rationale to attack and invade Iraq.
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Old 28-08-2008, 03:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Iraq was very clearly depicted as a threat by the pro-war brigade, and they stooped to all sorts of dishonesty to lure the mug public along. Give it a decade or so, when the present bunch are a fading memory, and that will be in history books.

Same story as the Nixon admin's 'secret war'.
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Old 29-08-2008, 02:02 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Maybe you were duped Aunty. Americans are a bit more discerning.
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Old 29-08-2008, 09:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Maybe you were duped Aunty. Americans are a bit more discerning.
Well on the evidence of it apparently they're not. Quite gullible it would seem, only to ready willing and able to swallow what their Govt. tells them. There's a certain kind of naivety in how they're always wanting to believe that this time they're being told the truth.

Because it's not like this is the first time the American public has been mislead is it (Gulf of Tonkin anyone?); almost certainly won't be the last given that they're complicit in their own blindness.
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Ah, jaysus, ant.
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these countries have plenty of oil money. rich feking rag heads with no morals and a peodo prophet!
I am shocked at your outpouring of hatred for the population of Iraq, surely your conscience must build a bridge between your outright love for Thailand and its indigenous peoples and the poor and oppressed peoples of Iraq.
Anything else would be sheer hypocrisy, which is clearly not the case with a person as erudite as you.

Ragheads? Been watching too much TV, have you? I'm sure someone wearing all those colourful wristbands, pink/blue/yellow/Miami Vice hued shirts and wearing numerous amulets should show some empathy.
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Ah, jaysus, ant.
Aye, pretty much the perfect representation of a person who has just discovered they have been misled by their Govt. Again.
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