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'USAF struck Syrian nuclear site'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
Nov 2, 2007

The September 6 raid over Syria was carried out by the US Air Force, the Al-Jazeera Web site reported Friday.

The Web site quoted Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons carried out an attack on a suspected nuclear site under construction.

The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets provided cover for the US planes.

The sources added that each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon and that the site was hit by one bomb and was totally destroyed.

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tactical nuclear weapon ???

wtf

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Milkman

^ I need to see some more corroboration.

I'll google later. If you find any other alternative sources, it'd be great if you put them up, Mid.

Mid

agree on the corroboration.

story is being watched on a US board , just posted there .

Mid

Suspected Syrian Nuclear Site Dismantled?
By PAMELA HESS Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON Oct 25, 2007 (AP)

Satellite images said to suggest facility removed after Israeli airstrike


RIGHT: This is a satellite image of Syria collected on October 24, 2007. The area was believed to be the site of a partly built nuclear reactor until it was suspected to be attacked by Israeli forces in September and later covered up.
(DigitalGlobe via Getty Images)



New commercial satellite images show a suspected Syrian nuclear reactor site has been wiped clean since it was bombed Sept. 6 by Israeli aircraft.

Analysts say the cleanup will hinder a proposed investigation by international nuclear inspectors and suggests Syria is trying to conceal evidence.

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abcnews.go.com

Mid

Al Jazeera: U.S., not Israel, destroyed Syrian reactor — with tactical nuclear weapons;
posted at 9:25 am on November 2, 2007
by Allahpundit


Update: Source was Islamic message board?




Too good bad freaky deaky to check.

The September 6 raid over Syria was carried out by the US Air Force, the Al-Jazeera Web site reported Friday. The Web site quoted Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two strategic US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons carried out an attack on a nuclear site under construction.

The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets provided cover for the US planes.

The sources added that each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon and that the site was hit by one bomb and was totally destroyed.

I can’t even find the story on AJ’s website; we’ll have to take JPost’s word that it was there. Is there any reason to believe this is something other than pure, undistilled anti-American shinola being peddled by jihadis’ favorite news source? Two that I can think of. If you’re making a daring raid into enemy territory that might very well trigger war you’ll want to make sure you at least destroy the target you came for, including any underground structures. That means using the heaviest club you’ve got. What it doesn’t explain is why U.S. jets would be needed to deliver the goods given that Israel also has nuclear weapons. Conceivably they didn’t have one big enough to take out the building but small enough not to alert the world of the detonation when it went off, and the U.S. did. Would Bush be willing to lend a nuclear hand to take out a reactor that was years away from being usable? Even to scare Iran? Doubtful.




The other reason is this report from Britain’s Spectator that Bryan blogged about a few weeks ago. I’ve wondered about it ever since I read it. The language always seemed a bit too dire for the facts as we know, or think we know, them:

Even more curious is that far from pushing the Syrians and Israelis to war, both seem determined to put a lid on the affair. One month after the event, the absence of hard information leads inexorably to the conclusion that the implications must have been enormous.

That was confirmed to The Spectator by a very senior British ministerial source: ‘If people had known how close we came to world war three that day there’d have been mass panic. Never mind the floods or foot-and-mouth — Gordon really would have been dealing with the bloody Book of Revelation and Armageddon.’

Israel and Syria have been flirting with war for most of the year, to the point where IDF officers were publicly predicting it would happen this summer. There’s potential for that conflict to become a world war if Iran jumps in and either it or Syria drags the U.S. in by attacking Iraq. But no one seemed terribly worried about that prospect and Iran, after all, tends to do its fighting through its proxies. So what would explain that hair-raising “world war three”/massive public freakout imagined by the unnamed British minister? Well … a nuclear attack on a Middle Eastern country certainly would. Or maybe the minister’s just a typical British dove soiling himself at the thought of any type of “aggression.”
Here’s a side-by-side before and after of the site for the benefit of any military readers who might have a better sense of what a landscape looks like after a tactical nuke detonates. I think the story’s 99 and 44/100ths crap, but you tell me.
Update: Follow the comments below. People who’d know better than I are saying that it makes no sense to do this with jets, if in fact the U.S. was involved. The aircraft of choice would have been a B2 stealth bomber.
Update: Rusty says he got a tip about this yesterday from an Islamic message board, which may explain where AJ got its info. Or maybe the message board poster had already seen it on AJ and cribbed it from there. Hard to say.

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Mid

Zionist source: America participated air raid on Syria
الجمعة 22 من شوال 1428هـ 2-11-2007م الساعة 12:11 ص مكة المكرمة 09:11 م جرينتش
Friday 22 of Shawwal 1428 e 2-11-2007 m at 12:11 p. Mecca 09:11 m GMT



Islammemo: source revealed "Israeli" and another that the Arab air raid launched by the Zionist planes on Syria last September was an American participation.




Her personality "Israeli" landmark on the San beginning of a local security source: The air raid on Syria last September aimed at the nuclear facility under construction.




The businessman, who asked not to be identified - told of the island-Net: that the process was the participation of two strategic bombers Americas sticking small tactical nuclear bombs, aircraft squadron They were accompanied "Israeli" F-15, F-16, took responsibility for control and
protection.




The source said that both the security of U.S. tactical nuclear bomb loaded one, noting that the target had been established one bomb; , Which led to its destruction and causing great Bhfarh in place.




At the same time political source revealed distinguished from the territory of 48 basis according to a Syrian beginning, that the six aircraft participated in the bombing of a major project under construction in Deir Al-Zour without reference to nature.




The source pointed out that the air strikes did not cause casualties or injuries, explaining that the Syrian radar devices made that night six aircraft attacking in explaining that the Syrian radar devices made that night six aircraft attacking in addition to 25 fighter aircraft in the vicinity of Cypriot airspace hour attack.

islammemo.cc

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New Satellite Surveillance System Was Key Israeli Tool In Syria Raid
David A. Fulghum, Robert Wall and Douglas Barrie/Aviation Week & Space Technology
Nov 2, 2007


Israel pulled out all the stops technologically in its recent raid on Syria, employing several new intelligence-gathering and strike systems in a chain of events stretching from satellite observations to precision bombing of a target thought to be a nuclear facility.

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aviationweek.com

Hootad Binky

How would they know that?

blackgang

Al Jazeera is one of the news channels I get on my sat and I watch it every day, them and CCTV channel #9 from Beijing and channel news Asia from Sing. and I have yet to see anything about American planes in on the raid into Syria, they did have a shot about it last week, but was that sat shot of the cleaned up site and were wondering why the site had been so well manicured if nothing was suspect about what was there.

So I think that the OP is a bullshit story.

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sabang

[quote=Mid;443932]
I can’t even find the story on AJ’s website; we’ll have to take JPost’s word that it was there. Is there any reason to believe this is something other than pure, undistilled anti-American shinola being peddled by jihadis’ favorite news source?
/quote]

Al Jazeera is far from being the jihadists favourite news source, in fact a few of their reporters have been killed by both jihadists and US forces. Al Qaeda is certainly no fan of theirs.

They are a credible news source, but this source is from a Blog not their mainstream news.

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DrB0b

Sounds like James Bond, much more exciting than saying "I read it on a forum"

Butterfly

Fucking Christ, another unsubstantiated News Spam feed by Mid the spammer

What's next ? Martian invasion ?

DrB0b

You mean you don't appreciate his news-felching abilities? I find his technique of sucking up the journo-jizz from the darkest orifices of the internet and snowballing it across Thailand forums fascinating.

blackgang

Yea, thats more a RayC smear the shit thing than anyone else.

But he does post a link and says it has happened when it pobly never will.

HermantheGerman

Last update - 17:12 03/11/2007
Report: Syria gov't kept nuke facility secret from army to avoid leaks

By Haaretz Service

The veil of secrecy in Damascus surrounding Syria's alleged nuclear facility left it vulnerable to aerial attack, Aviation Week magazine on Saturday quoted an Israeli official as saying.
According to foreign media reports, the facility was the target of an Israel Air Force strike deep inside Syrian territory in early September.
"The target was so highly classified in Damascus that the military wasn't briefed and, therefore, air defenses were unprepared," Aviation Week reported, attributing the information to an Israeli official.
The U.S. publication said Israel used an array of sophisticated technological tools ranging from satellites to anti-electronic warfare to plan and carry out the alleged bombing of the complex in northern Syria, said to be built with the aid of North Korea.
A previous report by ABC claimed Israel had obtained detailed pictures of the Syrian complex from an apparent mole.
ABC, citing a senior U.S. official, said the person had provided several pictures of the complex from the ground, and Israel showed the images to the CIA. The U.S. spy agency helped pinpoint "drop points" to assist in potential targeting, ABC said.
Israel urged the United States to destroy the complex, but Washington hesitated because no fissionable material was found that would prove the site was nuclear, ABC said.

Report: Syria gov't kept nuke facility secret from army to avoid leaks - Haaretz - Israel News

HermantheGerman

Israel used electronic attack in air strike against Syrian mystery target


Oct 8, 2007
By David A. Fulghum and Douglas Barrie Mysteries still surround Israel’s air strike against Syria. Where was the attack, what was struck and how did Israel’s non-stealthy warplanes fly undetected through the Russian-made air defense radars in Syria?
There also are clues that while the U.S. and Israel are struggling in the broader information war with Islamic fundamentalists, Tel Aviv’s air attack against a “construction site” in northern Syria may mean the two countries are beginning to win some cyberwar battles.
U.S. officials say that close examination of the few details of the mission offers a glimpse of what’s new in the world of sophisticated electronic sleight-of-hand. That said, they fault the Pentagon for not moving more quickly to make cyberwarfare operational and for not integrating the capability into the U.S. military forces faster.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said last week that the Israelis struck a building site at Tall al-Abyad just south of the Turkish border on Sept. 6. Press reports from the region say witnesses saw the Israeli aircraft approach from the Mediterranean Sea while others said they found unmarked drop tanks in Turkey near the border with Syria. Israeli defense officials finally admitted Oct. 2 that the Israeli Air Force made the raid.
U.S. aerospace industry and retired military officials indicated the Israelis utilized a technology like the U.S.-developed “Suter” airborne network attack system developed by BAE Systems and integrated into U.S. unmanned aerial vehicle operations by L-3 Communications. Israel has long been adept at using unmanned systems to provoke and spoof Syrian surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, as far back as the Bekka Valley engagements in 1982.
Air Force officials will often talk about jamming, but the term now involves increasingly sophisticated techniques such as network attack and information warfare. How many of their new electronic attack options were mixed and matched to pull off this raid is not known.
The U.S. version of the system has been at the very least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last year, most likely against insurgent communication networks. The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions where approaching aircraft can’t be seen, they say. The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading messages that allow a number of activities including control.
Clues, both good and unlikely, are found in Middle East press reports. At least one places some responsibility for the attack’s success on the U.S.
After the strike, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al Watan reported that U.S. jets provided aerial cover for Israeli strike aircraft during the attack on Syria. Similar statements of American involvement were made by Egyptian officials after the 1967 and 1973 wars with Israel.
More interesting is the newspaper’s claim that “Russian experts are studying why the two state-of-the-art Russian-built radar systems in Syria did not detect the Israeli jets entering Syrian territory,” it said. “Iran reportedly has asked the same question, since it is buying the same systems and might have paid for the Syrian acquisitions.”
Syria’s most recent confirmed procurement was of the Tor-M1 (SA-15 Gauntlet) short-range mobile SAM system. It uses vehicle-mounted target-acquisition and target-tracking radars. It is not known whether any of the Tor systems were deployed in the point-defense role at the target site struck by Israeli aircraft. If, however, the target was as “high-value” as the Israeli raid would suggest, then Tor systems could well have been deployed.
Iran bought 29 of the Tor launchers from Russia for $750 million to guard its nuclear sites, and they were delivered in January, according to Agence France-Presse and ITAR-TASS. According to the Syrian press, they were tested in February. Syria has also upgraded some of its aging S-125s (SA-3 Goa) to the Pechora-2A standard. This upgrade swaps out obsolete analog components for digital.
Syrian air defense infrastructure is based on for the most part aging Soviet SAMs and associated radar. Damascus has been trying to acquire more capable “strategic” air defense systems, with the country repeatedly associated with efforts to purchase the Russian S-300 (SA-10 Grumble/SA-20) long-range SAM. It also still operates the obsolescent S-200 (SA-5 Gammon) long-range system and its associated 5N62 Square Pair target engagement radar. There are also unconfirmed reports of Syrian interest in the 36D6 Tin Shield search radar.
There remains the second mystery of the actual site of the target and its use. Israeli news reports contend it was a compound near Dayr az-Zwar in north central Syria, and not Tall al-Abyad farther north. The site of the attack has been described as a transshipment point for weapons intended for the Hez*bollah in Lebanon to restock missile stores that were used in last summer’s fighting with Israel. Others contend it is a site with nuclear materials that may be associated with Iran’s nuclear bomb program. Mentions are also made of a North Korean ship arriving in Syria only days before the attack and the presence of North Korean workers in Syria for several months.
“There are always indications the North Koreans are doing something they shouldn’t, Vice Adm. Robert Murrett, director of the National Geospatial-intelligence Agency (NGA), told Aviation Week & Space Technology in response to a question about the shipment of nuclear materials from North Korea to Syria, which were subsequently bombed. “They are a high priority. We work as a key element . . . on the trafficking of WMD [weapons of mass destruction] and high-interest arms shipments anyplace.”
It’s part of a growing NGA role in spotting the proliferation of weapons technology “which may be coming from East Asia to the Middle East . . . that we don’t want to cross borders.” Other crucial boundaries for surveillance include the borders in all directions in Afghanistan and Iraq—which includes Syria and Iran—as well as semi-governed areas such as the Horn of Africa. The use of automation to aid rapid analysis is improving, but that’s being balanced by the fact that “the sheer volumes of data we are ingesting now . . . continue to increase by a couple of orders of magnitude on an annual basis,” he says.

Aviation Week : Israel used electronic attack in air strike against Syrian mystery target

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