Thread: What name do you give this war?

When discussing the current Iraq conflict, what should it be called? The "War On Terror" is a war on an abstract noun. Since terror has always been with us, this silly term describes nothing. "The Long War" was tried for a short while, but can the length of a war really be determined ahead of time? The "War on Islamic Extremism" is a little less silly, but there's empirical evidence (e.g. 'Dying To Win' by Robert Pape) that the majority of the guerillas have a turf war mindset that transcends religion. Sadam and his Baathists were a fairly secular bunch, for starters. Is there an objective way to name this war? The Second Gulf War is the best I could do, but it isn't even so accurate if Afganistan is included. What name do you give this war when you discuss it?

The futile War

The only logical name to call it: WW3

Take the blinders off boys, they want to erase western culture...

The "Rise of Iran" War

The "Enlightment" War for how fuckup the US has become and it's just another Soviet Union in the making for all to see

Originally Posted by floorpotato

The Second Gulf War is the best I could do

Actually, it would have to be the third Gulf War. The first was between Iraq and Iran that ended in 1988.

Dubya's War of Terror.

It's not a war, it's a VICTORY - don't you listen to Bush's speeches?

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Yep..."I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like...like Victory"!

What Western culture???

The Jews, Septics and Blair VS reason

I'd call it the 'We are all Making a lot of money war'. Since I think it can be demonstrated that most of is in the west are making a lot of money out of this war in one way or another.

Infact I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the west who is not making money out of this war.

The "Iraq War".

Originally Posted by Itchy

Infact I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the west who is not making money out of this war.

I am not making a single penny from this, nothing but further hussle at border crossings and bother from police.

iraq,
how to start a civil war, war

palestine
how to start a civil war, war

two different methods but the same outcome

let them kill each other.

Originally Posted by meepho

let them kill each other.

Yes, the world community should leave Israel/Palestine and US/Iraq to sort out their own mess and not expect others to take sides with the invaders and pick up the pieces.

well stroller
we kind of agree for a change,

you know the saying
to many cooks and all that

Originally Posted by mad_dog

The Jews, Septics and Blair VS reason

You forgot a few Germans, Aussies, & some eastern European folks in that mix, MD!

Originally Posted by floorpotato

What name do you give this war when you discuss it?

bush's war.

which is how history will remember this huge mistake.

Yes, the world community should leave Israel/Palestine and US/Iraq to sort out their own mess and not expect others to take sides with the invaders and pick up the pieces.

You mean you have no investments that have shot up due to the war and its possitive impact on the ecconomy?

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Strange question - but no, I don't.
I am rather selective in my investment and avoid anything tied to military or other unethical businesses.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by floorpotato

What name do you give this war when you discuss it?

bush's war.

which is how history will remember this huge mistake.

It's not over 'till the fat chick sings and she ain't even started warming up yet.

THE WAR FOR ISRAEL !

http://nowarforisrael.com/

The lost war

I am rather selective in my investment and avoid anything tied to military or other unethical businesses.

I doubt you are selective enough that at some level you are not benefitting from this war and 'The War on Terror' in general.

Not necessarily relating to you personally but here is an example:

In the aftermath of 9/11, the Madrid and London bombings, the UK government rushed through measures to remove the reliance upon Heathrow, seen as a single point of failure in the Nation's and indeed world air travel.

These moves included opening up regional hub airports and putting in place the services and management strategy to distribute air traffic in case of an attack in London. Similar moves have been carried out across Europe. - My parent's house, in the vacinity of one of these airports trippled in value in a matter of months.

The War on Terror has instigated huge movements of money and wealth.

Likewise the war in Iraq, the increased Oil Price, which we moan about and the increase in stock values of a huge range of companies, directly and idirectly, has jacked the stock market up, pushing up savings, and in particular pensions.

Of course in France, Germany and Russia, there has been a negative impact. These countries were happily conducting illegal trade with Iraq (while at the same time arguing that sanctions should be left in place, and policed by the US military )

That is a good buiness to be in, your illegal markets protected by someone else's army.

You'll remember of course that the poisonous gas attackes by Iraq on the Kurds back in the 80s was greatly facilitated by the German Chemical Engineering Company - Uhde GmbH - Since they provided the technolgy and built the plant that the chemicals were made in.

Yes Iraq was a lot better when it was the private market of the French, The Russians and the Germans.

Originally Posted by Itchy

The War on Terror has instigated huge movements of money and wealth.

Yes, but this is a very different statement from suggesting that everyone in the West is making money out of the Iraq war.

Originally Posted by Itchy

Yes Iraq was a lot better when it was the private market of the French, The Russians and the Germans.

Bullshit.
You conveniently leave out Brit and US interests, amongst others, in the 80s. Also, the trade sanctions were controversial and not fully supported in the nations mentioned.