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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    President Obama and his administration denied it was a terrorist attack for weeks.
    Save for the inconvenient fact that Obama described it as an act of terror the very next day. The bungled response is rightfully attracting criticism, and I daresay has cost some swing votes- but really, it's State that carries the can on this one, rather than the Presidential office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Save for the inconvenient fact that Obama described it as an act of terror the very next day. The bungled response is rightfully attracting criticism, and I daresay has cost some swing votes- but really, it's State that carries the can on this one, rather than the Presidential office.
    BS, SB. Obama said "acts of terror" generically the day after and then spouted blame on the anti-muslim video for 2 weeks thereafter; his "they work for me" state dept & Susan Rice said the same blaming the video. Quit weaving quilts for him. This admin screwed up big time on this debacle.

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    Nobodys listening Minnie (sob) outside of the usual right wing peanut gallery. Yes, there was a bungled response, but no, the latest manufactured scandal hardly touches the Presidential office itself. Unlike yourself, Mitt has realised exactly how much traction there is in the latest RW blogosphere cause celebre'- he failed to even mention it on Mondays foreign policy debate.

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    Well, Romney made a strategic decision not to go after Barry on Libya etc thus avoiding getting smeared with the Bush War-monger label. Obama wanted belligerence and struck out!

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    #NARRATIVEFAIL: White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails. “Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show. . . . Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

    Mr. Nakoula was unavailable for comment — since, you know, he’s in jail until after the election.


    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Why hasn't Susan Rice et. al. been run out of town by now, eh?

    Reuters: White House, State Dep’t received e-mails within two hours of Benghazi attack about jihadi group taking credit

    White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails | Reuters


    Criminal actions on the part of the Obama Admin.


    What say you, Bert?

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    Benghazi: The White House Knew All Along It Was Terrorism, and Not Spontaneous - YouTube

    Emails prove that the White House knew within two hours that a jihadi group was responsible for the Benghazi attack. So why did the President continue to blame a YouTube video?

    Sound of crickets chirping - Humbert?

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    Try to contain yours- outside of your fevered blogosphere, absolutely nobody believes there was a deliberate conspiracy to withhold from the American people that this attack was a planned terrorist operation by an Al Qaeda affiliate (using the 'movie' demonstrations as cover). I mean, why on earth would they- under Obama's watch not just OBL, but most of the senior leadership of AQ has been obliterated. The 2IC of AQ must be the worlds most dangerous job. So, like ya reckon they would suddenly now run interference for them and deliberately blame it on the Libyan man in the street instead? d'ohhh.

    It was a bungled response, that's all- not a conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Try to contain yours- outside of your fevered blogosphere, absolutely nobody believes there was a deliberate conspiracy to withhold from the American people that this attack was a planned terrorist operation by an Al Qaeda affiliate (using the 'movie' demonstrations as cover). I mean, why on earth would they- under Obama's watch not just OBL, but most of the senior leadership of AQ has been obliterated. The 2IC of AQ must be the worlds most dangerous job. So, like ya reckon they would suddenly now run interference for them and deliberately blame it on the Libyan man in the street instead? d'ohhh.

    It was a bungled response, that's all- not a conspiracy.
    It was deliberate misdirection and you know it. To trot Susan Rice out on 5 different news programs to lie - to let jay Carney stand up and lie sure sounds lie a deliberate conspiracy to this poster.

    It walks/talks like a duck - completely passes the 'Duck' Test hands down.

    If, as you claim, it was a bungled response it's gotta be the biggest 'bungled response' in the course of this failed Obama Administration. Exceeds Watergate by a country mile...

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    right- so obama and al qaeda are actually best friends now. sell that to the american people. yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    right- so obama and al qaeda are actually best friends now. sell that to the american people. yawn.
    Missing the point again - Obama is simply inept at anything he tries. I've been telling you that for the past 4 years and mebbe it's starting to sink in?

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    So Obama works for State now?

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    The linked story is "White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails."

    The famous question from Watergate was "What did the President know and when did he know it?"

    Difference here is Benghazie-Gate is worse than Watergate as no one died back then.

    More damning evidence here: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Be...in;contentBody

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    It's all unraveling for Obama and Benghazi-Gate. Turns out Ambasador Stevens was involved in running guns to al-quada in Libya.

    Read all about it here:

    Glenn Beck Responds to White House Benghazi Memos | Ansar al-Sharia | Video | TheBlaze.com


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    Is that why they killed him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Is that why they killed him?
    Sounds like a drug deal (in this case an arms deal) gone bad. We'll soon find out though. Meanwhile, check this out:

    Bombshell: Clinton Ordered More Security, Obama Denied Request.

    Huge, if true...

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    MSM is picking up the story now. This Benghazie-Gate is going to make Operation Fast & Furious & Iran Contra pale in comparison:

    GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate - Washington Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    It's all unraveling for Obama and Benghazi-Gate. Turns out Ambasador Stevens was involved in running guns to al-quada in Libya.

    Read all about it here:

    Glenn Beck Responds to White House Benghazi Memos | Ansar al-Sharia | Video | TheBlaze.com

    pretty damning if it's true (regardless the messenger).
    if there really was a drone watching the house and if the documents actually exist.
    ‘PEOPLE WILL GO TO PRISON’: BECK BREAKS DOWN OBAMA’S ‘LYING’ ON LIBYA IN FIERY SEGMENT
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    Glenn Beck took to his radio show Wednesday morning for a fiery denouncement of the administration’s handling of the crisis in Libya.

    “This president is lying to you about Benghazi in such [a] spectacular fashion that I believe people will go to prison. This is impeachable. The president might go to prison for this one,” he said. “What’s happening in Benghazi is so far beyond lying, it is ​staggering.”

    While politicians are known for twisting words into half truths, Beck added that has never seen an administration persist in such a boldfaced lie when American lives are at stake, or seen a media so content to let it slide.

    He continued, going over the newly-released documents that prove the administration was alerted to what was really happening in Libya before spinning a story about a YouTube video:

    Now we have [the] beginning of the truth on Benghazi. Five days into the Benghazi scandal, when no one was saying anything, I presented a theory…I told you that [Ambassador Stevens] was involved in running guns, and he was running guns to al-Qaeda in Libya, and he was running guns through Turkey into Syria. And whether it was a deal that went bad, I don’t know, but that’s what happened. And the White House knew…And while everyone else was arguing about whether it was a videotape or not, we were furthering the story.
    Today we have evidence that is staggering. We now have a memo posted [at] TheBlaze…to the White House two hours after the attacks began. Last night on the TV show I laid it out again…exactly what happened, when. At 1:00, or 12:54 in the afternoon on September 11, the White House was warned that somebody was watching the Benghazi safe house– and so you know, do not let any member of the press get away with calling this an embassy safe house. It is not. It was a CIA safe house. Now why, in the most dangerous place in one of the most dangerous parts of the world, on Sept. 11…why would he be at a CIA safe house? …We now know he was having dinner with the general counsel of Turkey. [Emphasis added]

    Beck reminded that it has been widely reported that President Obama has a close relationship with the Turkish prime minister, before continuing:

    An hour after that, the Turkish ambassador leaves through the front door and the front gate, unmolested. Now you tell me– why was the Turkish general counsel there? …Why was it so important on Sept. 11 to go to the most dangerous city, into a CIA safe house?
    An hour after he leaves, the fight begins. We now know that the White House– somebody, the military, somebody, sent a drone. So there was a live video feed of what was going on. They’re watching it in the State Department, they’re watching it at the Pentagon, they’re watching it at Langley, and they’re watching it in the Situation Room. At 5:00 in the afternoon, Leon Panetta has a meeting with the president of the United States. The first email comes at 4:05. So the Secretary of Defense arrives at the White House to have a meeting with the president 55 minutes after the Situation Room and everybody else gets an email saying, ‘Libya, the safe house is under attack.” ​[Emphasis added]

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    Beck proceeded to read several more emails explaining how our personnel in Benghazi were missing and under attack, before he got to one timestamped at 6:07. According to the memo, Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the attack and– though he isn’t sure– Beck said it’s possible that Ansar al-Sharia was one of the groups that we gave arms and funding to during the war to overthrow Gaddhafi.

    “This is why the White House covered, because our ambassador was killed by [guys] we were running guns to, and we are still running guns today.”

    He then read an international report from Russia Today saying U.S. Stinger Missiles are in the hands of Syrian rebels, adding that the New York Times has also reported that we are using the Muslim Brotherhood to arm the rebels in Syria.

    Beck concluded the segment:

    “This president is on the wrong side. It is so crystal clear…let’s just take it one step at a time. The President of the United States of America, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State have all lied to you. They lied to you and said, ‘this might be a video, we don’t have all the information, the information is still sketchy, it’s confusing,’…We now have the documents that came into the Situation Room saying, ‘There’s an attack, they’re watching.’ Then, we have the documents that we had a live video feed in the Situation Room, so they could see that there was no protest. ​Then there are the documents– and there’s now 13, with this new one– there’s now 13 different documents saying it’s a terrorist attack, and here’s the group that’s doing it. And they lied to you.”
    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney responded to questions about the newly-released emails by saying there was “all sorts of information” coming in at the time.

    Emails: White House Told Two Hours After Benghazi Attack Began That Radical Islamic Group Claimed Responsibility
    White House Responds to New Libya Emails: ‘There Was a Variety of Information Coming In’
    Is Newly-Appointed Libya Investigator an Islamist Sympathizer With Ties to CAIR?
    Glenn Beck Responds to White House Benghazi Memos | Ansar al-Sharia | Video | TheBlaze.com

    Can't understand why they (the administration) seem to be siding with the rebels in Syria.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Beck added that has never seen an administration persist in such a boldfaced lie when American lives are at stake, or seen a media so content to let it slide.
    Was he asleep during that whole Iraq-allies-of-al Qaeda-WMD thing, or is he simply ignoring it because it doesn't fit with his rhetoric?

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    Who Decided Not To Save Tyrone Woods?

    "Charles Woods, the father Tyrone Woods, who was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, reveals details of meeting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at the publicly broadcast memorial service for the slain Americans at Andrews Air Force Base only days after the attack. And, in a recent radio appearance, Woods questions who made the call not to send in back-up forces to possibly save his son’s life, as well as the three other Americans killed in Benghazi (which includes the American ambassador to Libya)."

    When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that you’re son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’” Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”

    “It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.

    “Well, this is what Hillary did,” Woods continues. “She came over and, you know, did the same thing—separately came over and talked with me. I gave her a hug, shook her hand. And she did not appear to be one bit sincere—at all. And you know, she mentioned that the thing about, we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that.”
    Woods continued: “Apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help. My son wasn’t even there. He was at a safe house about a mile away. He got the distress call; he heard them crying for help; that’s why he and Glen risked their lives to go that extra mile just to take care of the situation. And I’m sure that wasn’t the only one received that distress call—you know, come save our lives … I’m sure that other people in the military, in the State Department, in the White House, received that same call that he would receive. And I’m sure that most military people would jump at the chance … to protect that life [and] not leave anyone behind.”
    Woods made clear that he isn’t “mad,” but that he wants the “truth” to be told because he feels “abandoned.”

    Woods says he was told by military officials that the military could have “come above [the area] and completely the carpeted area,” and therefore saved the officials in Benghazi, Libya, but that someone gave the command for the American military not to save them.

    “When I heard, you know, that there’s a very good chance that the White House as well as other members of the military knew what was going on and obviously someone had to say, don’t go rescue them. Because every person in the military–their first response [would be], we’re going to go rescue them. We need to find out who it was that gave that command–do not rescue them.”


    UPDATE: IBD has a must-read editorial that provides an appropriate accompaniment to Mr. Woods’s comments.

    Pretty Damning Stuff, Man

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    It's getting interesting.

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    “Within minutes of the first bullet being fired, the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied,” said Ty Woods’ father, Charles. “In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured, and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision.”

    Why would Obama and Biden do such a thing? Because to launch a military operation against an al-Qaida affiliate on the anniversary of 9/11 would have exposed the hollowness of their boast through convention week and the days thereafter – that Osama was dead, and al-Qaida was finished. And so Ty Woods, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Chris Stevens were left to die, and a decision taken to blame an entirely irrelevant video and, as Secretary Clinton threatened, “have that person arrested.” And, in the weeks that followed, the government of the United States lied to its own citizens as thoroughly and energetically as any totalitarian state, complete with the midnight knock-on-the-door from not-so-secret policemen sent to haul the designated fall guy into custody.

    This goes far beyond the instinctive secretiveness to which even democratic governments are prone. The Obama administration created a wholly fictional storyline, and devoted its full resources to maintaining it. I understand why Mitt Romney chose not to pursue this line of argument in the final debate. The voters who will determine this election are those who voted for Obama four years ago and this time round either switch to the other fellow or sit on their hands. In electoral terms, it’s probably prudent of Mitt not to rub their faces in their 2008 votes. Nevertheless, when the president and other prominent officials stand by as four Americans die and then abuse their sacrifice as contemptuously as this administration did, decency requires that they be voted out of office as an act of urgent political hygiene.


    Mark Steyn: Benghazi bungle requires act of urgent political hygiene | obama, video, one - Opinion - The Orange County Register


    Political hygiene? Throw the bums out! This is worse than Watergate, Operation Fast & Furious & Iran Contra all rolled into one...

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    Update:

    Obama Lies His Way Through Questions on Benghazi.

    More stonewalling. Both Obama and the Lamestream Media are trying to keep this story from going full-blown until as much early voting as possible has taken place.

    This won’t help: Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus.

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