Thread: Iran - the next US target?

Originally Posted by surasak

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We simply cannot and we simply must not do this, otherwise, Americans will face eternal 9/11s. And for what good reason?

This line of 'thinking' would have had all of Europe speaking German - no D-Day - can't risk it! No battle of Midway - might as well bend over and be nice little appeasing pacifists.
Sooner we take out the mad mullhas in I-ran, the better...

There's no appeasement here. It it simply not in our best interest to defend them.

We should sacrifice the well-being of a nation of 300,000,000 to defend a nation of 6,000,000? Jesus Chocolate Christ how liberal can you possibly get Booner?

Originally Posted by surasak

There's no appeasement here. It it simply not in our best interest to defend them.

We should sacrifice the well-being of a nation of 300,000,000 to defend a nation of 6,000,000? Jesus Chocolate Christ how liberal can you possibly get Booner?

These asshole hate us anyway. By further appeasment we are doomed far worse than if we don't go in and 'clean house'...

The Chinese and Russians hate us too! They have long range nuclear missiles pointed at us. Let's bomb them and clean them out too!

So they hate us, so what?

That's even more reason to stay the hell out and become energy self-sufficient like we once were before we started meddling in the Middle East through our immoral actions beginning in 1953.

Originally Posted by surasak

The Chinese and Russians hate us too! They have long range nuclear missiles pointed at us. Let's bomb them and clean them out too!

So they hate us, so what?

That's even more reason to stay the hell out and become energy self-sufficient like we once were before we started meddling in the Middle East through our immoral actions beginning in 1953.

We still need the oil?

Why Iranian Bombs Are Labled in English

Why does Iranian TNT have markings in Farsi and the other rounds seem to be labled in English?
Since Iran sells munitions on the international market...

....meaning, then, anyone on the international market could have bought them and then taken them to Iraq....including the U.S.?

Question is: why would Iranian operatives use munitions written in English?

And about that oil: shame we allow auto manufacturers to keep selling gas guzzlers if getting that oil puts our nation at risk.

Originally Posted by surasak

Sorry, but, it's not smoke and mirrors. Prominent Israelis are already lobbying the U.S. to attack Iran to protect Israel:

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...346275,00.html

Thanks for the link, which quite obviously means America is going to invade Iran, and that this will be done in order to protect those vile 6 million Israelis.

You really are a heartless cad, uncaring for the more than a million of your buddies living in Israel and enjoying superior rights and freedoms over their brethren under Islamic rule.

Originally Posted by surasak

There's no appeasement here. It it simply not in our best interest to defend them.

We should sacrifice the well-being of a nation of 300,000,000 to defend a nation of 6,000,000? Jesus Chocolate Christ how liberal can you possibly get Booner?

Been through this once before...Israel is deleted, and in order to appease the likeminded masses, whilst we're at it let's also end the root cause of global Islamic terror by ridding the world once and for all of every last Jew.

Now, would that satisfy you? More importantly, would that satisfy the Islamic extremes, and could you or anybody you know guarantee that Islamic terror will as of that moment cease to exist, or will it resume after a self-congratulatory pause, under a different guise...how about something like, the infidel waited too long to do away with Israel and must be punished, Allah commands?

Originally Posted by surasak

....meaning, then, anyone on the international market could have bought them and then taken them to Iraq....including the U.S.?

Question is: why would Iranian operatives use munitions written in English?

And about that oil: shame we allow auto manufacturers to keep selling gas guzzlers if getting that oil puts our nation at risk.

Only a matter of time, surasak, jai yen yen...alternative and replenishible fuel sources will be developed in good time; it won't be tomorrow or even next week, but one thing for sure is that it will happen.

Originally Posted by keda

Islamic extremists, otoh, view the threat of global annihilation with relish.

I somehow doubt this. A few suicide bombers don't make a communal deathwish. I don't like the tunes coming out of Iran, either, but if it's just macho posing, who knows? They don't have the capability to act on what their mouths spout.

Terrorists getting their hands on nukes is a very serious and real possibility, but it doesn't depend on Iran developing their enrichment program.

hopefully the young generation in Iran will finally take the reigns and put the old timers and their extremist way of thinking to rest !!!

The future may well be in their hands...crumbs!

it was not long ago that the younger generation ( which greatly out numbers the aging generation ) was mostly pro western views !!!

Originally Posted by surasak

It's pathetic that some people still haven't gotten over the 1979 embassy siege (which was, after all, payback for the U.S. overthrowing a democratic govenment in 1953).

It's like the child threatening to burn down the house because the parent punished him for throwing the cookie jar down on the floor.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the USA still hasn't renewed diplomatic relations with Tehran.

The invasion of a sovereign embassy is an act of war. Too bad Jimmy Carter didn't have balls back then when definitive action was called for.
We probably wouldn't be in the current mess had we stomped the extremists back then.

[quote=Mr Earl;258464]

Originally Posted by surasak

It's pathetic that some people still haven't gotten over the 1979 embassy siege (which was, after all, payback for the U.S. overthrowing a democratic govenment in 1953).

It's like the child threatening to burn down the house because the parent punished him for throwing the cookie jar down on the floor.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the USA still hasn't renewed diplomatic relations with Tehran.

Yes, I believe this is correct. (And, welcome back to the board, KID.)

The invasion of a sovereign embassy is an act of war. Too bad Jimmy Carter didn't have balls back then when definitive action was called for. We probably wouldn't be in the current mess had we stomped the extremists back then.

The Tehran embassy siege has nothing to do with the "extremists" of today.

Iran had a revolution and deposed the Shah. The Shah was put in place by the U.S. after the CIA overthrew a democratically elected President that was anti-communist.

Why?

Because of the oil companies.

As for doing anything against Iran military, this was in 1979-81. The military was hollow and it was very soon after a particular debacle.

Iran is a big country. With a large population. With rugged terrain. With Farsi speakers.

It would not have bee possible.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The invasion of a sovereign embassy is an act of war. Too bad Jimmy Carter didn't have balls back then when definitive action was called for.
We probably wouldn't be in the current mess had we stomped the extremists back then.

Is overthrowing a democratic government an act of war?

How about bombing an embassy?

Yep, the American military had nowhere near the capability to do anythin in Iran at the time. Even today it would be a tough nut to crack, undoubtedly the US would prevail given the politaical will, but it would be very costly in terms of both men and equipment.

There is not the political will necessary.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This line of 'thinking' would have had all of Europe speaking German - no D-Day - can't risk it! No battle of Midway - might as well bend over and be nice little appeasing pacifists.

Have you ever experienced combat?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Yep, the American military had nowhere near the capability to do anything in Iran at the time. Even today it would be a tough nut to crack, undoubtedly the US would prevail given the political will, but it would be very costly in terms of both men and equipment.

There is not the political will necessary.

The American people never wanted a war, It was forced upon us by the Muslim extremist's

The American haters can scream OIL,OIL,OIL all they want but we All know the truth--Iraq was suppose to be a foot hold in the middle east to show the rest of the countries that democracy can be achieved for them---IF THEY WANT IT !!!! APPARENTLY THEY DON'T

The funny thing about this situation is that AMERICA is hated because of our belief that people should have the right to worship in the religion that they choose-- including ISLAM, but because Allah says that anyone who worships a god other than him should be converted or killed that makes AMERICA the biggest TARGET of all because of our belief in religious freedom !!

Can Muslims and other religions coexist in the same country??? Seems to be working just fine here in the states for now -- AS LONG AS THE MUSLIMS ARE THE MINORITY RELIGION

But what happens when the Muslims are the majority religion or believe they have the political means to force their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS on others????

TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FRANCE AND THE U.K. FOR THAT EXAMPLE !!

As a side note to STROKER-- I don't have a problem with anyone worshiping their religion of choice, as long as the don't try and force it on others !!! I do believe in democracy, and the right of every person on the face of the earth to have a say in what their personal freedoms should be !!-- even woman and the minority religions of the country !!!

Originally Posted by KID

Originally Posted by Milkman

Yep, the American military had nowhere near the capability to do anything in Iran at the time. Even today it would be a tough nut to crack, undoubtedly the US would prevail given the political will, but it would be very costly in terms of both men and equipment.

There is not the political will necessary.

The American people never wanted a war, It was forced upon us by the Muslim extremist's

Won't convince those appeasiers and pacifists aboard here of that fact.
According to the 'line', it was Dubya's fault all the way...