Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

[harrybarracuda]

Oh look, the circle jerk of nutjobs has arrived.

[Roger Ramjet]

The most detailed sensible and logical summary I have yet read! Demonstrates the abilities or not of Australia's highly paid ATSB executives! Why are we not suprised they are searching in the wrong area!

[harrybarracuda]

The most detailed sensible and logical summary I have yet read! Demonstrates the abilities or not of Australia's highly paid ATSB executives! Why are we not suprised they are searching in the wrong area!

And where should they be looking?

[Latindancer]

all Boeings since before 9-11 are fitted with a control system that can fly the aircraft by remote control from the ground

Thank you for accepting that fact.

Apparently.
Theoretically.
So I have read.
Not necessarily ever been put into practice.
Not heard of any examples in real life.

[ENT]

Pigs fly free as Latindancer acknowledges the truth, even as he backpedals in a wormy sort of way.

[Latindancer]

ENT's first insult of the year !

Now....to Ignore or not Ignore.......that is the question.

[BaitongBoy]

Welcome back, ENT...Good to see you, lad...

[ENT]

".... all Boeings since before 9-11 are fitted with a control system that can fly the aircraft by remote control from the ground or another aircraft. This remote system is not constrained by the normal parameters applied by the on-board computers that do the "Fly By Wire" stuff, meaning the aircraft can perform manoeuvers under remote control that would not be possible when flown by the crew.:

Nice to see you acknowledge that.

[ENT]

^^ Cheers Baitongboy.

[ENT]

ENT's first insult of the year !

Now....to Ignore or not Ignore.......that is the question.

[ENT]

As I said, the Ockers were looking in the wrong place for MH370, and a remote controlled textbook ditching offshore a remote island was feasible at the time.

There was little impact damage visible on the flaperon retrieved, indicating a low speed ditching of MH370, well done.

But by whom and why?

[harrybarracuda]

Oh look the head nutter's back!

So where is it then ENT? Diego Garcia? Khazakhstan? Up your well worn arsehole?

[harrybarracuda]

Investigators searching for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 in an area of the Indian Ocean confirmed Friday they are still working off the assumption that the aircraft was flying on autopilot when it ran out of fuel in March 2014.

But an official from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said if the aircraft is not located in the designated search area, it is possible the pilot was in control when the aircraft went down, according to a Guardian report Thursday.

The Boeing-built 777-200ER aircraft disappeared with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board while on a scheduled passenger service to Beijing from Kuala Lampur, March 8, 2014.

Investigators are currently working from the so called ghost flight theory — that the aircraft continued on autopilot for around six hours from the moment it was last recorded by satellite until it ran out of fuel. That gives investigators an approximate search area of around 60,000 square kilometers (46,000 square miles) not far from the west coast of Australia. The alternate "rogue pilot" theory suggests the pilot took control at some point during the final six hours and took the aircraft down purposefully, meaning the aircraft could be in a completely different area.




If the plane is not found by the time the current search is due to be completed in June, a theory of the plane's disappearance will need to be given to the Malaysian government, which will deliver its final report on MH370 before the end of 2016.

"We will have to explain to governments what the alternative is," ATSB Chief Commissioner Martin Dolan told The Times of London this week, which he said includes the possibility that the pilot was still in control when the aircraft went down.

Despite Dolan's comments, the ATSB said search teams "haven’t seen anything to change our perspective on the search."

In response to Dolan’s comments, the Malaysian government said that it is still working on the assumption that there “were no control inputs at the end of the aircraft’s flight.”

“It is not ATSB’s role to put forward theories about what may have happened or why,” Malaysian government officials added. “Mr. Dolan has indicated the sorts of considerations that might need to be addressed in a report to governments at the conclusion of the search.”

Flight MH370 Update: 'Rogue Pilot' Theory May Be Considered By Investigators

[ENT]

.....an official from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said if the aircraft is not located in the designated search area, it is possible the pilot was in control when the aircraft went down, according to a Guardian report Thursday.

The alternate "rogue pilot" theory suggests the pilot took control at some point during the final six hours and took the aircraft down purposefully, meaning the aircraft could be in a completely different area.

Oh really?

[OhOh]

Diego Garcia?

Nothing to do with me.

A question regarding autopilots on civil planes. Do they, once turned on, just keep to a set of pre-entered way-points? Do they turn the plane, raise it's altitude etc. Or is pilot interaction required?

One suggestion, if it turns out that autopilot theory is in fact true, would be to mandate a pilot interaction is required every 30 minutes or so.

[harrybarracuda]

Diego Garcia?

Nothing to do with me.

A question regarding autopilots on civil planes. Do they, once turned on, just keep to a set of pre-entered way-points? Do they turn the plane, raise it's altitude etc. Or is pilot interaction required?

One suggestion, if it turns out that autopilot theory is in fact true, would be to mandate a pilot interaction is required every 30 minutes or so.

Well given that the plane was flown manually until it entered the Indian Ocean, I'd say that doesn't really matter. I don't think this is a case of the pilot falling asleep at the wheel. Nor do I think it's inconceivable that he wanted to fly it manually till the end to ensure a soft ditching in a deep area.

What I just can't believe is that they can't send a subset of a the FDR data, including navigation and control inputs, to a satellite every sixty seconds .

It's not like you need to keep the data for more than 48 hours, if a flight lands it is no longer required.

As for mandating a control input every thirty minutes, what would be the point of that?

Oh really?

Oh really, OhOh.

Why, where is it then?

Come on Mr. Tinfoilhat, what's the latest fairy story?

[OhOh]

Oh really, OhOh. Why, where is it then? Come on Mr. Tinfoilhat, what's the latest fairy story?

Sharpen up harry, that was ent.

[harrybarracuda]

Oh really, OhOh. Why, where is it then? Come on Mr. Tinfoilhat, what's the latest fairy story?

Sharpen up harry, that was ent.

I was talking to you.

I'm surprised you haven't blamed this on the "crusader coalition" yet.

[ENT]

Apart from your bizarre fantasies and wishful thinking, where do you think MH370 is Harry?

[harrybarracuda]

Apart from your bizarre fantasies and wishful thinking, where do you think MH370 is Harry?

In Davy Jones Locker somewhere, where the pilot put it.

[ENT]

Now, why would the pilot put it there?

An insurance scam?

[OhOh]

I was talking to you.

My apologies.

You did ask. The latest "Fairy" story goes like this:

1. The aircraft has been sent into near earth orbit via NASA, propelled by Russian engined rockets. The bodies rendered into "Fairy" soap in a Chinese owned, but situated in Malaya factory and subsequently sold to an Australian importer.

2. The ownership of the company, whose major shareholders died in the "mystery", and it's assets have been "grabbed" by an Ameristani vulture.

3. Don't even ask about the Chinese gold bullion on board.

[Latindancer]

No takers for my / my friend's theory of a fire in the nose wheel well ?

As it is directly underneath the electronics bay (or some similar name), it would have caused a blackout / brownout in communications, and the pilot may well have ascended to starve it of oxygen.
And so on and so forth. It seems to fit.

Let's wait 6 months. If I'm right, you all owe me a beer each.

[Pragmatic]

Let's wait 6 months. If I'm right, you all owe me a beer each

And if you're wrong?

[Latindancer]

I'll buy a beer for the first 5 of you who claim it, at whatever next TD meetup I happen to attend.

ENT not included.

Sorry pal.