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    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.

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    MH370: Emirates CEO Tim Clark Criticizes Investigation, Doubts Probable Crash Site

    Tim Clark, the CEO of Emirates, the Middle East's largest airline, has raised doubts over the ongoing investigation of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 claiming that the jetliner was “under control, probably until the very end” and may not have ended up in the southern Indian Ocean. Clark’s comments comes as the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, or ATSB, moved the focus of the search to an area farther south in the Indian Ocean.

    In a recent interview with German magazine Der Spiegel, Clark questioned the updated flight path analysis report published by the ATSB on Wednesday. He reportedly disagreed with the “so-called electronic satellite ‘handshake’” used by analysts to determine the probable crash site. He also reportedly failed to agree that the Beijing-bound Boeing 777, which disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board, had flown on autopilot mode for about five hours and later crashed into the ocean after running out of fuel.

    “Our experience tells us that in water incidents, where the aircraft has gone down, there is always something,” Clark reportedly said. “We have not seen a single thing that suggests categorically that this aircraft is where they say it is, apart from this so-called electronic satellite 'handshake,' which I question as well,” he added.

    Clark also reportedly urged that everyone should "continue to press all those who were involved in the analysis of what happened for more information.” According to Daily Mail, Clark added that the airline industry should not accept the disappearance of Flight MH370 as just an “unexplained mystery.”

    The senior executive of the Dubai-based airline, which has more than 100 Boeing 777 aircraft in its fleet, reportedly said that he was “totally dissatisfied” with the lack of any physical evidence to prove that plane crashed in a remote region of the southern Indian Ocean, and urged investigators to examine details of the plane's flight data once again.

    “There is plenty of information out there, which we need to be far more forthright, transparent and candid about. Every single second of that flight needs to be examined up until it, theoretically, ended up in the Indian Ocean -- from which they still haven't found a trace, not even a seat cushion,” Clark reportedly said.

    ATSB said in its report Wednesday that the updated analysis report was the result of both re-examined satellite data and aircraft communication data and also an “unanswered ground-to-air telephone call 17 minutes after [MH370’s] last radar information.” ATSB also said in its report that the current area of focus for the search could change.

    The search for Flight MH370, which has entered its seventh month, resumed after a four-month break and has so far yielded no concrete clues as to the whereabouts of the jetliner.

    MH370: Emirates CEO Tim Clark Criticizes Investigation, Doubts Probable Crash Site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    He's a bean counter, and clearly not an avionics expert. Anyone that would advocate isolating a piece of electrical equipment from the pilots on a commercial aircraft needs their head examined.

    His big claim to fame is growing Emirates into a massive international airline, which frankly when it's subsidised to the hilt is hardly difficult.

    Which is how a useless numpty like James Hogan has done the same thing at Etihad.

    And I've met him plenty of times. Trust me, he knows jack shit about aircraft electronics, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    I'd be very surprised if his aircraft knowledge extended beyond such things as revenue passenger km and return on investment. Technical expertise is far, far, beyond his remit. Hence his comments were to a German news magazine.

    However, I can agree with his hypothesis of intervention at the time of disappearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    He's a bean counter, and clearly not an avionics expert. Anyone that would advocate isolating a piece of electrical equipment from the pilots on a commercial aircraft needs their head examined.

    His big claim to fame is growing Emirates into a massive international airline, which frankly when it's subsidised to the hilt is hardly difficult.

    Which is how a useless numpty like James Hogan has done the same thing at Etihad.

    And I've met him plenty of times. Trust me, he knows jack shit about aircraft electronics, too.
    A bean counter like you?

    Hardly.


    Sir Timothy Charles Clark KBE is current President and CEO of Emirates. He was also the Managing Director of SriLankan Airlines until 2008.[1] Tim Clark is an economics graduate from the University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society.[1]
    Background

    Clark has been in the civil aviation business since 1972 when he joined British Caledonian. In 1975, he moved to Gulf Air in Bahrain and subsequently to Dubai in 1985 where he became a member of the founding team of Emirates as Head of Airline Planning. He is currently the President and Chief Executive Officer of Emirates. He was also Managing Director of SriLankan Airlines until 2008.[1] The latter post resulted from the acquisition of a 40% stake in SriLankan Airlines by Emirates in April 1998.[2] However, that post was lost when the Sri Lankan government took control of the airline and Emirates never renewed their contract for management of the airline.[3]

    Clark became President of Emirates in 2003 after spending 18 years helping build an aviation empire, which owes much of its success to the route network he established after joining as Head of Airline Planning.[citation needed]

    In addition, Clark is the president of the Emirates Foundation, a non-profit charity that he helped found which provides humanitarian philanthropic aid and services for children in need around the world.[4]

    Clark was appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE) in the 2014 New Year Honours for services to British prosperity and to the aviation industry.[5]

    Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine named Clark its 2013 Person of the Year.[6]

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    ROYAL AERONAUTICAL SOCIETY
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    MH370 – implications of a ‘Black Swan’ aviation event
    18 March 2014 By Tim Robinson

    MH370 last location 'corridors' based last satellite contact (Office of Malaysian PM).
    For good and bad we live in an age of instant communication. When global connectivity is taken for granted it is doubly upsetting for family and friends of passengers and crew of MH370 that a Malaysian Airlines 777 should vanish into thin air. In June 2009, the loss of Air France AF447 was a ‘Black Swan’ event — a one-in-a-million chance that saw a large airliner, operated by a reputable airline and flown by an experienced crew, disappear over the ocean. Yet five years on and this particular ‘Black Swan’ has reappeared with a vengeance.

    This is not to add to the speculation and wild theories now doing the rounds. However, this unprecedented aviation incident has turned traditional air accident investigation on its head. Previously, an aircraft crash site would be found, analysed and the cause established through rigorous forensic examination, including the vital data from flight data recorder (FDR) and cockpit voice recorder (CVR)s. However, the lack of a crash site (or landed aircraft) and the wide area to search has focused thoughts on determining the cause first – hoping that this will give clues to the location.

    STREAMING 'BLACK BOX' DATA
    The 'black box' from AF447 was recovered after two years. (BEA)
    That the aircraft will, one day, eventually be found is under no doubt but, when many airlines devote massive sums to expanding in-flight connectivity for passengers, could not some of this be used to stream ‘black box’ flight data recorder (FDR) or cockpit voice recorder (CVR) data to the ground in the event of a crash or unusual incident? It need not always be switched on, but could be triggered by various abnormal flight parameters — unusual pitch or roll angles, high rates of descent, or depressurization, so that the aircraft’s final minutes were available to investigators immediately. This would not be so that the investigation could be completed more quickly — but would allow accurate information to be given in a preliminary fashion — closing off fruitless avenues that might sidetrack the inquiry or quashing wild conspiracy stories that unnecessarily upset grieving relatives.


    Even if the accident were not fatal, it might also be useful to have additional data from any serious incident to debrief the pilots, understand their actions and refine CRM. Excursions from the flight path profile or altitude busts are already monitored in some form by many airlines – but this CVR audio would act as an extra ‘human factors’ information to understand accidents.

    And, although locked cockpit doors mean that the threat of 9/11 style hijacking and terrorism has receded — a discreet ‘transmit FDR/CVR’ button for the Captain or First Officer to hit in an emergency could aid authorities in knowing whether an aircraft that was squawking ‘emergency’ and heading towards a major city was the result of hostile action, crew incapacitation, or a mechanical problem and react accordingly. There could even be a hidden ‘panic button’ for the flight attendants to transmit this data for in the cabin or galley – should they perceive something was wrong on the flight deck.

    This idea of ‘streaming black box’ data is not new and was proposed in the wake of the search for AF447s FDR/CVR at the bottom of the Atlantic — but cost, privacy and bandwidth issues saw the need downgraded for what was expected to be a extremely rare event. After MH370, these calculations may change. Although bandwidth would still remain an issue – the costs of inflight connectivity are set to fall, as new broadband satellites come online.

    A world where passengers are promised they can tweet live photos from a window seat using their phone but FDR/CVR data is trapped within the aircraft only prolongs an agonising wait for families and creates an incorrect perception with the flying public that this technologically focused industry is not using all the tools at its disposal to enhance safety and security.

    SPACE-BASED LOCATION TRACKING
    The disappearance of MH370 and the 239 people on board has also highlighted the limitations of current live-flight tracking and terrestrial radars. A situation in which you can see ‘live’ airline flights via ADS-B on your smart phone via services like Flightradar24, gives the false impression that all-seeing global surveillance gives the position of every commercial aircraft in the world at all times. As MH370 has amply demonstrated, once a transponder fails (or is switched off) the radar horizon becomes the limit for terrestrial awareness of an aircraft’s position. Expect then, calls for the industry to boost space-based satellite tracking and communication of airline assets. As has been pointed out by some – when a free GPS app can locate a lost smartphone and report its position to the owner – a more robust fail-safe location information for airliners needs to be considered.

    DEFENCE GAPS
    Finally, the incident has also demonstrated major and embarrassing gaps in Asian country’s air defence systems, particularly of Malaysia, in potentially allowing a non-squawking 777-sized large contact to penetrate and pass though its airspace. In Malaysia’s defence, it was the catalyst of 9/11 that meant the US and Western nations now treat suspect airliners with such seriousness – and regularly scramble fighters to intercept those that lose voice or transponder communications with ATC.
    However, these admissions (and the focus on other countries’ air defence and radars and what they could see) in a region which has recently seen increased tensions and sabre-rattling to the east with China’s ADIZ will undoubtedly cause both Malaysia (and its neighbours) to tighten up and/or upgrade their air defence postures in the future. This has been an unpleasant wake-call for military preparedness in the region.

    SUMMARY
    The losses of dH Comet airliners proved a baffling earlier aviation mystery. Solving it enhanced safety for millions of passengers (NAL).
    In conclusion, although the hunt for MH370 is still ongoing, it has to be remembered that this ‘Black Swan’ event is an extraordinarily rare and possibly unprecedented event in modern commercial aviation. Despite alarmist headlines, commercial air travel is still an extremely safe, highly-regulated global industry with tight standards that have served well since the dawn of the jet age. Each earlier air accident, paid in blood, has contributed in some small way to improving safety.
    There is no doubt that MH370, whatever the final cause, will eventually do the same.

    - See more at: Royal Aeronautical Society | Insight Blog | MH370 ? implications of a ?Black Swan? aviation event

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    And he doesn't know that the reason pilots have control over electrical systems is because there are no fire engines in mid air.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobfish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    I'd be very surprised if his aircraft knowledge extended beyond such things as revenue passenger km and return on investment. Technical expertise is far, far, beyond his remit. Hence his comments were to a German news magazine.

    However, I can agree with his hypothesis of intervention at the time of disappearance.
    I think the pilot switching off the passenger air supply and flying the plane into the middle of nowhere counts as "intervention", don't you?

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    Submarines: Very Special Robots
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    October 11, 2014: The search continues for Malaysian airliner (flight MH370) that went missing in early March and has turned into a major, and unprecedented, underwater search. Early on efforts concentrated on a large area of the India Ocean off the west coast of Australia. While six months of searching by a multi-national fleet of surface and submarine craft have not found the missing Boeing 777 aircraft they have found previously unknown details of the underwater geography of one of the least surveyed areas in all the world’s oceans. There is a lot more detailed searching to be done before all the likely areas where MH370 debris have been examined. This could take up to two years and cost several hundred million dollars. Malaysia and Australia are picking up most of the cost, with substantial help from the United States. Several other countries have also contributed ships, including China.

    Early on the search involved a lot of U.S. Navy resources. One of the key American vessels used to search for wreckage on the ocean floor was an American AUV (Autonomous Underwater Vehicle) called Bluefin. This particular robot has been around for a decade, but rarely made it into the news. Bluefin is a very special robot.

    Back in 2004 the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard were still evaluating Bluefin, which looked like a torpedo. That was no coincidence as Bluefin used some components found in lightweight (320mm/12.75 inch) torpedoes. The original Bluefin was 2.9 meters (112 inches) long, 32 cm in diameter and weighed 137 kg (300 pounds). It could stay under water (at depths of up to 200 meters/650 feet) for 12 hours (moving at 5-6 kilometers an hour). It had an inertial navigation system, but could communicate with a surface ship via acoustic signals.

    The Bluefin type AUVs were first developed for civilian use (for Ocean Science and Engineering work as well as oil exploration.) The militarized Bluefin looked a lot like the civilian version and is many times smaller than the previous generation of AUVs. There were already larger versions of Bluefin that could fit in the standard (53 cm/21 inch) torpedo tubes of submarines. But the original Bluefin evaluated by the navy was intended for use by surface ships for things like clearing mines and mapping the sea bottoms in coastal waters. The U.S. Navy’s new LCS (Littoral Combat Ship) was designed to carry, and use, several AUVs, UAVs and USVs (Autonomous Surface Vehicle).

    The appearance of something like the Bluefin should be no surprise. The American Mark 48 torpedo, introduced in 1972, were constantly upgraded with additional electronics and improved maneuverability. While the Mark 48 weighs nearly two tons, most of that is the warhead and the powerful motor that drives it at up to 50 kilometers an hour. Replace that with newer, lightweight gear and you have something like Bluefin.

    The navy eventually adopted the larger version of Bluefin, called Bluefin 21. This one was the size of a standard torpedo (53cm diameter) and is 4.9 meters (16.2 feet) long and weighs 750 kg (1,650 pounds). It is designed to operate at depths of up to 5,000 meters (16,500 feet). Its batteries allow it to operate for up to 25 hours, moving at a speed of 5.5 kilometers an hour. It carries sonar and solid-state memory storage of four GB for the operation of the AUV plus multiple TB (thousands of GB) storage for recording sonar data. It carries several navigation systems and instruments to enable it to operate reliably. Bluefin 21’s primary job is finding mines but can also be used to map the ocean floor at great depths. That capability is being used to find the MH370 wreckage.

    Chemical monitors, cameras, and various other instruments can also be carried by Bluefin. For clearing mines, an AUV basically goes near the sea bottom and uses it's sonar and camera to map a lane clear of anything resembling a bottom mine (a mine that sits on the sea bottom but can detect a ship passing above it and detonate a large enough charge to sink a ship or sub.) Once a mine has been identified, another AUV goes down and drops an explosive charge on the mine, scoots away and the mine is destroyed. Several AUVs, controlled by their own software, can work on clearing a path free of mines for ships. Human operators only have to intervene to confirm that a mine has been found, and then send another AUV to destroy the mine. The U.S. Navy has a growing number of Bluefin 21s, which are seen as a major defense against the growing naval mine threat. Bluefin 21s can be quickly flown to any part of the world and put to work from just about any ship with a crane (to out Bluefin into the water and take it out again for battery recharging, data transfer and any needed maintenance). A Bluefin can map about 90 square kilometers of seabed a day and the search area could ultimately grow to include over 600,000 square kilometers but for the moment the search is concentrated on 600 square kilometers of ocean bottom. Each daily mission includes two hours getting to the ocean floor 4,500 meters below and two more hours to come back up. It then takes several hours to ready the Bluefin for another mission. This search operation will be the longest time so many Bluefins have spent at these extreme depths and searching 600 square kilometers could take up to 60 days.

    Most manned subs cannot go deeper than 500 meters. Some special research subs can go down to nearly 11,000 meters (the deepest part of the oceans, off the east coast of the Philippines). Bluefin is a lot cheaper to operate even though it can only go down to about 5,000 meters. Bluefin has been supplemented by the similar but larger (1.9 tons) and more capable Echo Surveyor IV.

    All the data collected in this search is considered unclassified and available to anyone. For ocean researchers, and countries with submarines, this is a bonanza of data that will be studied for many years to extract all the valuable insights.

    Submarines: Very Special Robots

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    I'd be very surprised if his aircraft knowledge extended beyond such things as revenue passenger km and return on investment. Technical expertise is far, far, beyond his remit. Hence his comments were to a German news magazine.

    However, I can agree with his hypothesis of intervention at the time of disappearance.
    I think the pilot switching off the passenger air supply and flying the plane into the middle of nowhere counts as "intervention", don't you?

    Harry. I don't think we can definitively say it was a pilot, but the sequence of events as reported are by probability the result of human intervention.

    The actions of selecting the transponder off, and then selecting Atc datalink off parallels the reported events. The reported turn to a westerly heading (noting that the air defence radar in Penang is a state of the art facility) also points to an intervention of the flight planned track.

    The "turning off of the passenger air supply": No ability to do this inflight, but if by this you mean depressurising the aircraft and subsequently depleting the resultant passenger oxygen supply: there is no evidence, but such intervention cannot be discounted.

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    MH370 latest: Why wife of missing plane passenger refuses $64,000

    Latest update: The wife of a New Zealand-born passenger onboard the missing MH370 has refused to accept the compensation extended to her by the Malaysian Airlines.

    Danica Weeks’ husband Paul was one among the 239 people on board the ill-fated Boing 777 that has been missing since March 8.

    According to a report in ibtimes.com, Malaysian Airlines offered her $64,000 [Dh235,091] as compensation, which she has rejected.

    Weeks, who lives in Australia with her two children, told ‘Perth Now’ that she received legal advice not to accept the money. Reportedly, she was offered the amount on the condition that she completes a detailed questionnaire, which she surmises “will go to their insurance company so the insurance company knows what they’re up for”.

    Voice370 – a group that Weeks helped set up for the families of the missing plane’s passengers - have also criticized the offer, stating “no amount of money could compensate for the families’ losses’.



    MH370 latest: Why wife of missing plane passenger refuses $64,000 - Emirates 24/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobfish View Post
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    ^He's been in the Aviation business since 1972, so i'm sure he would know a bit about aircraft.
    I'd be very surprised if his aircraft knowledge extended beyond such things as revenue passenger km and return on investment. Technical expertise is far, far, beyond his remit. Hence his comments were to a German news magazine.

    However, I can agree with his hypothesis of intervention at the time of disappearance.
    I think the pilot switching off the passenger air supply and flying the plane into the middle of nowhere counts as "intervention", don't you?

    Harry. I don't think we can definitively say it was a pilot, but the sequence of events as reported are by probability the result of human intervention.

    The actions of selecting the transponder off, and then selecting Atc datalink off parallels the reported events. The reported turn to a westerly heading (noting that the air defence radar in Penang is a state of the art facility) also points to an intervention of the flight planned track.

    The "turning off of the passenger air supply": No ability to do this inflight, but if by this you mean depressurising the aircraft and subsequently depleting the resultant passenger oxygen supply: there is no evidence, but such intervention cannot be discounted.
    I call depressurising the aircraft turning off the passenger air supply. At the end of the day, it's still just a turn of a knob.

    There will be no evidence until they recover the aircraft, which is why the conspiracy loons can continue to blather their tosh.

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    Harry, I think we're both on the same page here.

    However if we're going to comment on Sir Tim and others' lack of technical expertise, we should be more definitive.

    Manual Depressurisation: No Knobs. No turning. Requires selection of 4 switches.

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    Turn of a knob, flick of a switch, whatever.

    The point is it is at the captains fingertips.

    http://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/B777-Air_Systems.pdf

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    Thought I had something to offer, but it appears I have mistaken your own fervent agenda.

    You're clearly in Command: Enjoy your trip.

    Btw, thanks for the google search... but I have my own Boeing issued copy. Happy landings.

    Over and out.

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    There was an Australian scientist in the paper yesterday saying he could track the plane using some sort of cloud/fuel vapor analysis from archival satellite pics of th area. Said he made an offer to do it but was refused.

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    There was an Australian scientist in the paper yesterday saying he could track the plane using some sort of cloud/fuel vapor analysis from archival satellite pics of th area. Said he made an offer to do it but was refused.
    Hmmmm


    On June 17, ATSB senior transport safety investigator Duncan Bosworth responded with a list of 11 questions (seen by news.com.au) grilling Mr Gingis for information the scientist says he refused to answer without being under contract for fear of compromising commercial and security interests.
    Mr Gingis said he offered to do a reconnaissance for $17,500
    What a humanitarian.

    MH370 search: Contrails could be key to finding missing plane

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Thought I had something to offer, but it appears I have mistaken your own fervent agenda.

    You're clearly in Command: Enjoy your trip.

    Btw, thanks for the google search... but I have my own Boeing issued copy. Happy landings.

    Over and out.
    Harry's too far up his own a*se to hear ya mate.
    Well I can't comment on his amateur proctology, but he looks [SIZE="1"]really really small . ....... From waaay up here!
    Worst.flounce.ever.


    Really small. Keep squawking, we'll find you.

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    Meanwhile, away from the dribbling spastics, back to the actual search:

    18 OCT 2014 - 11:22 AM UPDATED 5 HOURS AGO



    The Fugro Discovery left Perth today on a six-day journey to the southern part of the MH370 search zone.

    The ship is carrying a so-called towfish, which will scan thousands of kilometres of the seabed of the Southern Indian Ocean with sonar beams emitted from its sides.

    A multi-beam system will scan directly under the device.

    The Fugro Discovery will tow the "fish" about 200 metres above the seafloor, in water up to 6.5 kilometres deep, looking for any wreckage.

    It is a tricky enough operation trying to keep it at that level in such deep water - let alone not running it into an underwater volcano.

    It is why the MH370 search teams have spent several months mapping the ocean floor with ship sonar to figure out exactly what is below them.

    "When you go looking for an object on the seabed such as an aircraft, you have to use a sonar that’s very close to the seabed to do that," said underwater sound specialist Dr Alec Duncan from WA’s Curtin University.



    "And you’re trying to do that in up to 6000 metres of water and you need to know the shape of the seabed quite well so you can keep your sonar at the right height above the seabed and not run it into things, which would be a big disaster, or having it flying too high where it can’t get good quality images.”

    Although the search has already begun in the northern parts of the potential crash zone, the survey of the ocean floor is still underway.

    It is due to finish in the coming weeks.

    "It will tell us a lot about the geology of the area," Dr Duncan said.

    "They’re not actually measuring the properties of the water column itself, or that at least isn’t a focus of what they’re doing, but the shape of the seabed, the types of features they see on the seabed and things like that will be pretty interesting.

    "The Indian Ocean has not been anywhere near as well surveyed as other places like the Atlantic for example, so the more we find out about it the better from our point of view."

    The Fugro Discovery can spend about two weeks scanning the area before it has to return to shore.

    Fremantle port will be the staging place for the search ships.

    Already searching the area, but now on the way to Fremantle is the GO Phoenix, which has scanned more than 670 kilometres of its assigned area.

    And next month, a third search vessel will join the hunt when the Fugro Equator, now surveying the last of the search zone, will be reassigned to look for wreckage.

    Dr Duncan said the sonar scan, which may take up to a year to complete, would be the best option to find if MH370 lies in the Southern Indian Ocean.

    "With the technology that is being used for this search, it’s almost certain that they will find it if it’s there," he said.

    Time will tell if this latest search effort will yield the answers the world, and the family and friends of those onboard, have been waiting for.

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    MH370: Indian Ocean crash theory in doubt

    The fate of Malaysia Airlines' missing flight MH370 has been thrown into doubt once again after a British satellite company central to the search said that there was "significant uncertainty" about the final flight path of the Boeing 777.

    As underwater searches for the aircraft continue in the southern Indian Ocean, Inmarsat – one of the companies whose analysis of satellite data has been critical to helping refine the investigation – has published a report on the data analysis techniques in the Journal of Navigation.

    The report goes into "extraordinary detail" about the so-called "handshakes" between MH370 and satellite communication equipment prior to the plane's disappearance, News.com.au reports.

    Through close analysis of the satellite data it is possible to deduce that "the aircraft remained operational for at least seven hours after the loss of contact as the satellite terminal continued to transmit messages during this period", but it is not possible to be certain about the plane's final resting place, Inmarsat concluded.

    The main problem for analysts, the report said, is that the information they are working from cannot be refined significantly enough to confidently identify the plane's final resting place.

    "A potential flight path has been reconstructed that is consistent with the satellite data ... but it is stressed that the sensitivity of the reconstructed flight path to frequency errors is such that there remains significant uncertainty in the final location," the report said.



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    Malaysian authorities have tried, largely in vain, to cry innocent and insist the country’s finest are doing their best, particularly in regards to Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370, which went missing, and Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17, which was shot down by Russian-backed rebels in Ukraine.

    Then along came Tim Clark, the head of Emirates Airlines, who noted that not even a seat cushion has been found following the disappearance of MH370.

    He questioned efforts to find the missing plane, adding that all the facts need to be re-examined.

    Clark, a 64-year-old senior manager with almost three decades with Emirates, cast doubts over Malaysia’s efforts. It’s reputation has already been tarnished by corruption, religious strife and dirty politics in recent years.

    There has also been intense speculation that the manifest detailing what was in the cargo hold of the ill-fated flight, which disappeared in March while en-route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board, had been altered.

    “We need to know who was on the plane in the detail that obviously some people do know. We need to know what was in the hold of the aircraft. And we need to continue to press all those who were involved in the analysis of what happened for more information.”

    He also challenged the Australian Transport Safety Bureau which found MH370 had drifted of course on autopilot for five hours until it ran out of fuel and eventually crashed into the Indian Ocean.

    “There hasn’t been one overwater incident in the history of civil aviation – apart from Amelia Earhart in 1939 – that has not been at least five or 10 percent trackable. But MH370 has simply disappeared,” he told the German magazine Der Spiegel.


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    Latest update: Seven months into the disappearance of the Malaysian flight MH370, people are questioning the accuracy of information given so far.

    The company Inmarsat, which has been giving officials information about the whereabouts of the plane, says in a latest report that it is not completely convinced that the plane is in the ocean…there are too many factors at play to know for sure, according to a report in The Epoch Times.

    The aircraft remained operational for at least seven hours after the loss of contact as the satellite terminal continued to transmit messages during this period, it said.

    Meanwhile, Aron Gingis, head of the Australian environmental consultancy company Management Consolidated, believes that it is possible to find the missing plane by using ‘contrails’ [condensation trails] techcnology - examining cloud changes for evidence of vapour trails that form behind aircraft. This process has previously been used to locate shipwrecks in the northern Pacific Ocean, reported ibtimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Latest update: Seven months into the disappearance of the Malaysian flight MH370, people are questioning the accuracy of information given so far.

    The company Inmarsat, which has been giving officials information about the whereabouts of the plane, says in a latest report that it is not completely convinced that the plane is in the ocean…there are too many factors at play to know for sure, according to a report in The Epoch Times.
    That's another one of your nutjob fairy tale sites.

    They also said it was hijacked to Afghanistan AND claimed someone had smuggled an iPhone photo out of Diego Garcia.

    They're as mental as you are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Latest update: Seven months into the disappearance of the Malaysian flight MH370, people are questioning the accuracy of information given so far.

    The company Inmarsat, which has been giving officials information about the whereabouts of the plane, says in a latest report that it is not completely convinced that the plane is in the ocean…there are too many factors at play to know for sure, according to a report in The Epoch Times.

    They're as mental as you are.
    Go tell that to INMARSAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Latest update: Seven months into the disappearance of the Malaysian flight MH370, people are questioning the accuracy of information given so far.

    The company Inmarsat, which has been giving officials information about the whereabouts of the plane, says in a latest report that it is not completely convinced that the plane is in the ocean…there are too many factors at play to know for sure, according to a report in The Epoch Times.

    They're as mental as you are.
    Go tell that to INMARSAT.
    Tell what to Inmarsat? That you're mental?


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