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Old 07-03-2017, 03:50 PM   #3576 (permalink)
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Well, there WAS that piece that looked burnt.
The piece that wasn't actually burnt and wasn't even linked to the plane you mean?

MH370 search: Doubts over 'debris burn marks' - BBC News
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:19 PM   #3577 (permalink)
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My guess:

Recommendation Number 1: Don't let anyone be in the cockpit alone (already in place after Germanwings).

Recommendation Number 2: Must have frequently reporting GPS tracking that cannot be disabled by the pilots.

Recommendation Number 3: Autorelease Beacon in the event of a crash into water.

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KUALA LUMPUR: The final report on the international investigation into the vanishing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, exactly three years ago on Wednesday (Mar 8) will be issued on Jan 17 next year.

That date is one year from the announcement of the suspension of the search operations on Jan 17 this year.

Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said the final report would also include results of the investigation into the Air Traffic Controller and the Malaysian Defence Ministry.

"Based on the results of the investigation, the investigation team will submit a detailed report and recommendations to improve industrial safety of the national civil aviation to the stakeholders," he said in a question-and-answer session at the Dewan Rakyat on Wednesday.

He was replying to a question by Parti Keadilan Rakyat member William Leong Jee Keen, who wanted to know the costs involved in the search for the missing jetliner and full report or data to be released to assist in calling off the search and the conditions required for the search to be resumed.

Liow said to date, Malaysia had spent a total of RM456 million in its search for the Boeing 777 aircraft.

He said in the ministerial tripartite meeting with Australia and China on Jul 22, last year, the three countries agreed to the suspension of the search for flight MH370 after the initial search scouring an area of 120,000 sq km failed to locate the missing aircraft.

However, the search would be reactivated if new credible information and data emerged to determine the aircraft’s exact location.

Following the suspension of the search operation, the Department of Civil Aviation, on behalf of Malaysia, would continuously monitor new evidence related to flight MH370, said Liow.

He said the investigation on the missing aircraft was conducted by the international investigation team based on rules established by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), which also consisted of accredited representatives from the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, China, France, Singapore and Indonesia.

"Investigations were carried out in a transparent and fair manner in accordance with Annex 13 (Convention on International Civil Aviation, Aircraft Accident and Incident Investigation) where all important information must be shared with accredited representatives.

Flight MH370 carrying 239 passengers and crew disappeared from the radar while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on Mar 8, 2014.

Its final flight path was believed to have ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

SUSPENSION NOT THE END: LIOW

Earlier in parliament, Liow had said that the suspension of the search for MH370 was "by no means the end in (the government's) unwavering commitment to find closure" to the tragedy.

"I wish to reiterate that the aspiration to locate MH370 has not been abandoned and we remain ever hopeful that we will be able to find the answers we seek when the credible evidence becomes available," he said.

Malaysia Airlines, who held a private remembrance ceremony to mark the anniversary at the KL International Airport on Wednesday, also emphasised in a statement its commitment to keeping family members of MH370 passengers informed of any developments.

The Department of Civil Aviation has been tasked to lead a response team to handle all matters relating to MH370 following the suspension of the underwater search mission, said Liow.

- Bernama/CNA/hs
MH370 final report will be issued next year: Malaysian transport minister - Channel NewsAsia
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:23 PM   #3578 (permalink)
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MH370: Researchers claim ‘concrete evidence’ into plane’s location

9:37pm, Mar 8, 2017 Updated: 9:43pm, Mar 8

As family members marked the grim, three-year anniversary of the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370 on Wednesday, Western Australian researchers claim to know the location of the crash site.

Researchers from the University of Western Australia (UWA) believe they have worked out the precise location of the missing Boeing 777, saying the plane is at the northern end of the last identified impact point, before the search was called off in January.

It comes after a US lawsuit, filed on behalf of the families of 44 people on board the missing plane, blamed manufacturer Boeing for the aircraft’s demise on March 8, 2014, with the deaths of all 239 people on board, including six Australians.

The UWA crash site has been plotted using a reverse-drift model, which successfully predicted where 18 of the 22 pieces of located Boeing 777 debris were found.

The model puts MH370 at Longitude 96.5 East, Latitude 32.5 South, within a 40km radius, UWA oceanography professor Charitha Pattiaratchi said, north of the 25,000 square kilometre search area identified by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) last year.



The debris already located would not have been found if the model had not predicted the plane’s location, Professor Pattiaratchi told The New Daily.

He claims the research gives authorities the “credible evidence” required to restart the search.

“My information is based on the oceanography. So when authorities say ‘we want more concrete evidence’, from an oceanography point of view you can’t have more credible evidence,” he said.

“That’s as good of information as you can get from an oceanography point of view.

“There is absolutely no doubt about the debris that has been found.”

The ATSB spent almost two years searching a 120,000sqkm area in the southern Indian Ocean for MH370, an area the UWA model predicted would prove fruitless.

“As soon as the flaperon (part of the aircraft’s wing) was found, we were saying it was unlikely that the plane went down in the search area at that time,” Professor Pattiaratchi said.

“The ATSB did not take into account the debris that was found. And despite the flaperon being found on [Reunion Island in] July 2015, it took them until November 2016 – almost 18 months – for them to acknowledge [MH370] is not [located] where they were searching.”

Researchers claim 'concrete evidence' into MH370's location
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In todays Australian paper,they reported that the OZ Transport Safety Bureau has rejected theAustralians Freedom of Information request for copies of statements from a panel of international experts that it says supports its interpretation of satellite tracking data.
ATSB's general manager of strategic capability said disclosure of the documents "would,
or could reasonably be expected to,cause damage to the international relations of the commonwealth.
Seems like not wanting to piss the Malaysians off.
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It's alright lads, some UFO freak has found it off Cape Town.



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No shit.



MH370 'FOUND on GOOGLE EARTH' ? ex US Air Force man claims THIS is the missing plane | Weird | News | Express.co.uk
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Old 12-03-2017, 09:35 AM   #3581 (permalink)
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MH370....:– the parts and debris found so far.


1. Flaperon
Saint André, Réunion Island
29 July 2015
The first MH370 part to be identified by French assessors, this large piece of debris was found washed up on the beach on Réunion island by local man Johnny Bègue more than a year after the plane disappeared. The flaperon is a 2.7 metre-long moveable part on the trailing edge of the wing, used to increase drag for takeoff and landing, and to bank the aircraft.

2. Flap track fairing segment
Xai Xai, Mozambique
27 December 2015
South African teenager Liam Lotter found the metre-long metal piece while holidaying in Mozambique and took it home, but did not realise its significance until some months later.
The fairing shields the wing flap and reduces drag. Although it was the second fragment to be discovered, it is known as part one because it was the first to be examined by investigators from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) in Canberra, who ascertained that it was "almost certainly from MH370".

3. Horizontal stabiliser
Vilankulo, Mozambique, 28 February 2016
Confirmed as part two by the Canberra investigators, this piece – discovered on a Mozambique beach by American lawyer Blaine Gibson – has been identified as a horizontal stabiliser panel segment from the right-hand tail section of a Boeing 777.
Its distinctive stencilling – “NO STEP” – matched that used by Malaysia Airlines, experts concluded, as did a single fastener still attached to the debris.

4. Engine cowling segment
Mossel Bay, South Africa, 21 March 2016
The Rolls-Royce stencilling helped identify this part as a segment from a 777 engine cowling and in particular the adapted style used by Malaysia Airlines.
Labelled part three by the Canberra team, the piece is accepted to have come from the missing plane, but investigators have not been able to determine if it was attached to the right or left, inboard or outboard engine.
The 70cm x 70cm chunk was found by South African archaeologist Neels Kruger washed up in Mossel Bay and was handed in to the South African Civil Aviation Authority before being transported to Canberra for tests.

5. Main cabin interior panel
Rodrigues Island, Mauritius, 30 March 2016
The only interior part of the plane yet discovered, this piece, known as part four, was judged by experts to be a panel segment from the main cabin, associated with the Door R1 closet. The laminate was a type used in 777s only by Malaysia Airlines.
It was found washed up on the shore by Jean Dominique and Suzy Vitry, a couple from Réunion who were holidaying in Rodrigues Island, east of Mauritius.

6. Wing flap
Pemba Island, Zanzibar, 23 June 2016
The large piece of debris was confirmed by Canberra investigators to be "the inboard section of a Boeing 777 right outboard flap". Several part numbers on the metal piece, including a date stamp, proved it had come from MH370. The wing flap is now being examined to determine how it became separated from the wing. It is the sixth confirmed part of the plane to be identified, labelled "part five" by the ATSB.

Unconfirmed debris – panels
Sainte-Luce, Madagascar, September 2016
Two bits of debris, found by a local fisherman in south-east Madagascar and handed to Canberra investigators by independent searcher Blaine Gibson appeared to show signs of exposure to heat or fire at some point. Authorities said there was no evidence that the debris came from MH370 and that dark marks on the surface were caused by resin, not fire.

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All six identified pieces of MH370 so far found are, reportedly, from the starboard side of the plane, including the engine cowling and door R1 closet panel.

The only piece of fuselage being one piece of the interior, the R1 door closet panel, a light, easily moved structure. The panel doesn't show much sign of great abrasion, other than it was broken in half, wrenched off it's fastenings and jettisoned.

No outer panels of the plane's skin surrounding the door have shown up, neither has the door, which presumably, was opened (outwards) after impact, by whoever was onboard piloting, This opened door then allowed the piece of broken panel to exit the fuselage, and drift off with the rest of the debris.

All the recovered debris is from the starboard wing after a controlled ditching at reasonably low speed, flaps down, which yawed slightly starboard as it ditched, ripping off the starboard wing parts so far found.

The flaperon found at Reunion Island, after more than a year, showed most evidence of having been immersed for most of that year in an ideal, nutrient rich environment in tropical waters, due to the abundance, size and age, of the barnacle growth found on it.

One highly likely place to foster that growth is the marine reserve of Pulu Keeling, 11 degrees 50 mins South Lat, around 20 miles due north of West Island, Cocos, out of sight over the horizon from West Island.

It has a long beach running down its eastern 'weather' coast, 4000 ft, long enough for a bumpy landing,............. with the plane's starboard wing closest to the surf if the pilot approached from the south after circling, and coming in with the wind.


Where the bits came off the plane, all starboard side.... \/


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One wonders when the CIA's now admitted ability to hack any piece of computer connected electronic system will become relevant to the disappearance of the plane.
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Surely that engine cowling segment would not be foam-filled like (presumably) most of the others ? Unless there is a hollow allowing it to float a bit.

I wonder how a solid piece like that ended up right on the tip of South Africa ? Could be a clue.

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Surely that engine cowling segment would not be foam-filled like (presumably) most of the others ? Unless there is a hollow allowing it to float a bit.

I wonder how a solid piece like that ended up right on the tip of South Africa ? Could be a clue.
The engine cowlings are insulated, so likely buoyant to a degree.
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Surely that engine cowling segment would not be foam-filled like (presumably) most of the others ? Unless there is a hollow allowing it to float a bit.

I wonder how a solid piece like that ended up right on the tip of South Africa ? Could be a clue.
Meant to be as light as possible, it's not built to withstand crashes.

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South African archaeologist Neels Kruger told how he found the piece while walking along a lagoon on Monday afternoon.

“Being an archaeologist I’m always looking for things with my nose to the ground,” said the 35-year-old. He recognised the brown honeycomb structure from photos of other pieces of possible MH370 debris.

“When I flipped it around, I didn’t know immediately what it was but just thought, ‘Oh my word!’” he told the Associated Press. On the other side, Kruger said, he recognised what appeared to be the remains of the logo of Rolls Royce, which made the engines for the missing Boeing 777 airliner. The piece was about 70cm by 70cm “with chunks gone from the side”, said Kruger.
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One wonders when the CIA's now admitted ability to hack any piece of computer connected electronic system will become relevant to the disappearance of the plane.
I wonder when you will stop being a delusional fantasist.
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