Seen it all, ready for the next life

[DrivingForce]

i dont with the sentiment at all, just the transparent bullshit and propoganda that go with them, hitler liked dogs he wasnt totally evil

yeah but his documented treatment of them was....His "love" of dogs could be questioned in the eyes of a real dog lover..

[Marmite the Dog]

you're not going to get any more than this; Villains they may be but they are elected villains, their opponents are authoritarian thugs who want to restore feudalism to Thailand, only somebody entirely dead to shame would support those who wish to gain power by stealing the freedoms of others.

b ut if you cant see that Thailand would be better off without Samak then you are doubly a fool

Umm, I don't think he said that, mate.

[good2bhappy]

looks like the protesters are digging in.
Starting construction in govt house.

[DrAndy]

we obviously have a different view on this, im not arguing about the process, b ut if you cant see that Thailand would be better off without Samak then you are doubly a fool

The process is what the argument is all about reinv!

everyone knows Samak is a poor PM, but so are Bush and Brown etc etc

Samak was elected by a reasonably fair process, although the media were used rather unfairly. If PAD are successful in replacing him, maybe by an even worse PM, then the democratic process will have taken two steps backwards.

If you think democracy is a good thing, then the only way to get rid of Samak is by the electoral process, or by his own party deciding he is not fit for the position.

[reinvented]

Umm, I don't think he said that, mate.

unfortunately doing it by the book doesent seem to be working at the moment mate, the same gangsters are in power, im not suggesting another coup is the answer at all, but it doesent seem as if the current process is acpable of dealing with the problem

maybe elvis havin a quiet word might do it

Samak was elected by a reasonably fair process, although the media were used rather unfairly. If PAD are successful in replacing him, maybe by an even worse PM, then the democratic process will have taken two steps backwards.

perhaps it needs to Andy

you think democracy is a good thing,

to be honest i dont think the Thai version is that good a thing

or by his own party deciding he is not fit for the position.

why have they waited so long, it was obvious months ago when he started trying to fuck around with the charter or whatever it was called.
maybe im influenced by being surrounded by the views of middle class bangkokians, but they are unanimous in their views on this fool, and they will lead this country forward, or backwards, not the dirt farmers who the system wont allow, not nice but true

[tsicar]

Umm, I don't think he said that, mate.

why have they waited so long, it was obvious months ago when he started trying to fuck around with the charter or whatever it was called.

how come we have seen no criticism of the coup leaders, who changed the constitution to cover their own arses, rendering them immune to procecution?
is what samak is doing, or what thaksin did, any different?

[ray23]

Well Mr. Samak doesn't run easlily and he gives very long speeches.

DAAD is lineing up wonder how that will go.

Do believe Thailand has some rough days ahead.

[kingwilly]

Quote: Originally Posted by DrAndy Samak was elected by a reasonably fair process, although the media were used rather unfairly. If PAD are successful in replacing him, maybe by an even worse PM, then the democratic process will have taken two steps backwards. perhaps it needs to Andy

Why does it need to?

Quote: Originally Posted by DrAndy you think democracy is a good thing, to be honest i dont think the Thai version is that good a thing

And removing the elected prime minister is not going to make the version any better.

[reinvented]

Why does it need to?

on the basis of if you get lost, you retrace yer steps and start again, how many coups and fallen got. in a row is it now? how much of a circus is this place? do ya'll believe the current syetem is working? if the system isnyt working then changes need to be made,

And removing the elected prime minister is not going to make the version any better.

no, preferable if he removed himself i agree, but if thats not gonna happen what do you suggest, another 6 months of protests and then army stepping in?

[ray23]

It's Ok now guys they fired OOPS reassigned the Police Chief today, good plan. stopped to soon

[Dalton]

In Thailand the party with the best funding and free-bee's to the poor, will always be elected, the middle-class don't have votes enough to beat them. The poor live day by day and don't think about tomorrow, I can't really say that I blame them for that, they are more or less slaves in there own country, and nobody seem to be interested in changing that.

[Fabian]

At least they're honest enough to say that the people are too stupid to vote for the right party. The UK & US haven't developed that far yet.

That's the main flaw with democracy, the majority of people is stupid.
It is the lesser evil though.

[reinvented]

In Thailand the party with the best funding and free-bee's to the poor, will always be elected, the middle-class don't have votes enough to beat them

then the solution is obvious, kill the poor



for the esarn members i'm only joking

[Dalton]

then the solution is obvious, kill the poor

Bad move dude, then the cheap labor is gone..

for the esarn members i'm only joking

I know..