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Old 09-02-2006, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Getting Married Thread - Protocol - Pitfalls - Prerequisites

Getting Married In Thailand


Seeing as there are a number of well-respected members about to take the plunge with their Thai ‘darklings’ it seems appropriate to have a thread where all this info is easily found.

As others yearn to join the ranks of the happily married here in LOS,
-there are certain protocols which need to be observed
-various pitfalls which need to be avoided
-and the prerequisite paper-work which needs to be completed.

I’ll kick it off, seeing as my nuptials are due next week, by talking about the paper work.

Step 1: You’ll need a Statutory Declaration from your embassy. Being a kiwi, this cost me 850 baht and took 10 minutes. You fill in the form, pay the money and they stamp & sign it. Done.

Maybe other countries have different rules, which is why I thought we should have this thread.
Oh. If your divorced in your own country you need you divorce certificate both certified and translated as well.

Step 2: Take your Statutory Declaration to a translation agency to be translated into Thai. There are many around the embassies in Wireless Road, on the RHS as you walk towards Ploenchit Road. The one I used was Fuji Translation 57/13 Wireless Rd. Cost 300 baht and took 20 minutes.

Step 3: Get yourself out to 123 Chang Wattana Road to the Department of Consular Affairs which is open 8:30 – 3:30.

If you don’t drive, the easiest way is the take the BTS to Mor Chit Station and then a taxi which should cost 100-150 baht.
Tell the taxi กระทรวงต่างประเทศ กรมกงสุล ถนนแจ้งวัฒนะ

If your driving, take the expressway to Chang Wattana Road. First toll way is 40 baht and second is 10 baht. On the way back there’s only one toll way at 50 baht. Don’t speed cause they have cameras every day on this part of the expressway.

When you go off at Chang Wattana Rd keep right so you go over the road and then your heading back into the city. Go past Macro, but don’t enter the right lane cause it’s only for u-turns all the way down and the brownies are there every day collecting money for their mia nois. After about 2 kms there’s a huge sign in English ‘Consular Affairs’. Now take the right lane and U-turn in front of Telecom HO. Entrance is past the Consular Affairs building. Free Parking.

Step 4: Go to the Legalisation Department which is on the 3rd floor. Take the escalator and then one flight of stairs – no lift. The helpful ladies at the desk at the top of the stairs will give you the form to fill in. You need your passport and a copy of the first pages and the visa page. (photocopier on the first floor). She will give you a number from the machine. Take a seat and wait till your number is called.

I went about 10:30 am…maybe 50 people there, but I only waited 5 minutes before my number was called. They check your documents and take your money. There are different rates you can pay but if you pay 800 baht you get it back within 2 hours. Pay any less and you have to come back tomorrow. Why would you bother. Sit down and wait for your receipt and your change which took maybe 10 minutes.

She then told me it would take about two hours, not including lunch and suggested I come back about 2pm. I went downstairs for some lunch in the cafeteria. Back up and read the paper. Less than 2 hours (they worked over lunch) she called my name. Sorted.

Step 5: Now you can go to any Amphur Office in Thailand and register you marriage.

Registering mine next week…Again!!!

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Well, here is the hillbilly take on getting married. I was often told that one never invests in Thailand anymore than one can afford to lose.

Very true.

Having said that it is true that I have accumulated a few parcels of land along with a home or two.

What did I do? My stance is quite simple. You fok me, you die... Once you get that firmly planted in their mind, things tend to work more smoothly.

jing-jing... Butt, then I am rather backwards...
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Thanks klongy. I hope I can put some of that to good use.

Divorce Certificate eh? What the fok do they look like?
I used to have the 'decree nisi' somewhere here but I can't find it at the moment.

Farking Chaeng Wattana, ho hum not far from work I'll con the boss into taking me.

But I gotta ask meself.........."is it really worth it? Just to put a smile on a girl's face?"
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Divorce Certificate eh? What the fok do they look like? I used to have the 'decree nisi' somewhere here
One and the same poolie
and you'll need it unless you've had a Thai one, like me, since the 'sheila back home'

Of course, if you entered 'single' as your marital status on your stat dec then mums the word and bobs your uncle
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Klongy that was great,

I am from the old school though, dont get married in Thailand. Your wife will lose her rights to property, and other issues. Never married here, just a quick civil ceremony atttended by my mom and family back in the states.

Funny old world aint it?

Dont get me wrong I dont avocate what I did. It was just the thing to do when I married.
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dont get married in Thailand. Your wife will lose her rights to property
fortunately the law has changed now...

where's Bill?

A Thai woman is allowed to own a family home now even if she's married to a foreigner
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Prior to 2001, any Thai [female] national who married a foreigner automatically lost her right to own land in Thailand. A number of reasons for this Draconian law were advanced, but the truth of the matter can be located in Section 1470 of the CCC, which stipulates that all property acquired after a marriage, under Thai law, is the common property of the husband and wife (minus any pre-nuptial agreement). As foreigners were not allowed to own land in Thailand, to avoid them having a common interest in land, neither were their spouses (and, it is worth noting, the wording used is spouse; thus, in theory, the law applied equally to Thai husbands with foreign wives. But, as the Thai husband was not required to change his surname, whereas the wife was (under Thai law in place at that time), the authorities rarely knew he was married to a foreigner).

Following the publication of the Notification of the Ministry of Interior re Application for the Acquisition of Land by Thai National Who Has or Used to Have Alien Spouse and Juvenile Child of Alien Who Has Thai Nationality (published on 4 October 2001) this prohibition was lifted and Thai spouses of foreign nationals are now allowed to own land provided that the foreign spouse confirms in writing that all of the money used to purchase the land belongs to the Thai national spouse and that the foreign spouse has no claim over this money or the property as a common property of the marriage. As a result, foreigners married to Thais, or with half-Thai children, can use them as a vehicle to own land, provided that they accept they have no interest or claim over the land. Nevertheless, as mentioned above, under Section 93 of the Land Code, they can be named as heirs under a lawful will.

link: http://www.teakdoor.com/forum/showthread-t_1338.html

so it didn't apply when AO got married
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KM/Poolie:

I know this may be a sore subject, but are you doing sin sot?

BTW KM, just in case you needed to know, a house cannot be given in Sin Sot (if the giver is a foreigner) hahahahahaha
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am from the old school though, dont get married in Thailand. Your wife will lose her rights to property, and other issues. Never married here, just a quick civil ceremony atttended by my mom and family back in the states. Funny old world aint it? Dont get me wrong I dont avocate what I did. It was just the thing to do when I married. __________________
I know that dammit!!! I got all that shit, I was trying to comment on how much easier it is now.

Too much time looking at CMX's cryptic shit.

What a lousy post by AO, time for him to let the kids play games.!!

About as clear as mud.
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BTW KM, just in case you needed to know, a house cannot be given in Sin Sot (if the giver is a foreigner) hahahahahaha
William: are you a mind-reader as well as a font of all knowledge on all things legal

Nope no sinsot for me..my girl has no living parents and is 'of age'

Poolie???
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Too much time looking at CMX's cryptic shit.
How come you never get involved in the jolliness then.
Me, Dougal, nickA and Lily would like a bit of company other than Macha's.
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BTW KM, just in case you needed to know, a house cannot be given in Sin Sot (if the giver is a foreigner) hahahahahaha
William: are you a mind-reader as well as a font of all knowledge on all things legal

Nope no sinsot for me..my girl has no living parents and is 'of age'

Poolie???
No mate, just read you and the missus had moved in to a new home. How is going by the way? Hope all is well - the first year I lived in my place we had "teething" problems akin to those of a shitty little kid
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Step 1: You’ll need a Statutory Declaration from your embassy. Being a kiwi, this cost me 850 baht and took 10 minutes. You fill in the form, pay the money and they stamp & sign it. Done.
But, WTF's a "Statutory Declaration" What are you declaring?
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A declaration that you can actually get married owing to not being married already, I believe.
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Kinda like an avadavit eh? swearing to something under oath in front of a notary. Wasn't sure.
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Hell, that's easy for Kiwis to get married. I needed much more paperwork. That alone should have put me off. After I got married in Thailand the stupid bitch at the marriage registration office back in Germany made problems with the registration there so I did not bother to get it registered here.
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BTW KM, just in case you needed to know, a house cannot be given in Sin Sot (if the giver is a foreigner) hahahahahaha
William: are you a mind-reader as well as a font of all knowledge on all things legal

Nope no sinsot for me..my girl has no living parents and is 'of age'

Poolie???
This is a secret guys, I'm not supposed to tell but I told her I don't have money for a dowry so if she wants a dowry she'll have to marry someone else!

Seems the family is going to show some money.........

I've just got to get the province drunk!!!
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No mate, just read you and the missus had moved in to a new home. How is going by the way? Hope all is well - the first year I lived in my place we had "teething" problems akin to those of a shitty little kid
Doesn't sound like you at all Willaim!!

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Kinda like an avadavit eh? swearing to something under oath in front of a notary. Wasn't sure.
Well FF: if your a thai man you can run from one province to another and marry as often as you like...illegal but common-place because there's no centralised computer systems

If your a BAD farang, you have to prove that you are not married somewhere else in the world before you can pluck one of lifes little wonders from the LOS
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This is a secret guys, I'm not supposed to tell but I told her I don't have money for a dowry so if she wants a dowry she'll have to marry someone else!
you lied of course poolie
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Right pain in the arse for me too.
My decree absolute was in Turkish, had to be translated from turkish to English, English to Thai.
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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This is a secret guys, I'm not supposed to tell but I told her I don't have money for a dowry so if she wants a dowry she'll have to marry someone else!
you lied of course poolie
Not at all!!

a) I won't give away what little I have on a companion
("that's a contradiction pooly, you do it all the time!")
Well, I mean a live in who chooses to stay with me.

b) I haven't got enough money for me when I can look after myself financially then I'll be in a position to take care of the buffalo.
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Nice post, KlongMaster.
I am jumping through the hoops at the moment.
Declaration for a Limey is 2645 baht.

I have just taken it to a translation service and the robbing bastard wants 25k baht to translate it.
I've been here 12 years mate, not 12 minutes .
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