Monthly Thai investing for a luddite simpleton.

[OhOh]

1k back in me account already, 15b set fee.

Thanks. Is the 15b for all amounts or per 1,000b

[Luigi]

Thanks. Is the 15b for all amounts or per 1,000b

Will tell ya tomorrow when I do a fake withdrawal.

[baldrick]

when I last did it from bx.in.th it was for all amounts

some banks were 15 baht and others were 25 baht

[redhaze]

Money is being made all over the place?

Let's take this slowly: where is the money coming from that's being made, if not from those who are losing it?

LMAO oh man you gotta love this combination of arrogance combined with being spectacularly and absurdly wrong.

Let's take this slowly for you: We're talking about a bull market here. Stock prices get bid up and people are selling for gains. People are willing to pay higher prices today and tomorrow on average in a bull market. Both the seller AND the buyer are making money in a bull market. You starting the get the picture? It isn't complicated.

How do you think a stock rises or falls in price if everything purchased is a one to one transaction where one person wins money and another person loses? It doesn't work that way. How would stocks ever increase or decrease in value in that scenario? There can be winners AND bigger winners (just like when a stock falls a person can sell for a loss and then the person behind them can sell the same shares two weeks later for an even BIGGER loss).

If a stock is rising, wealth is created, if its falling, wealth is erased. You think 50% of people are losing money in this market? That is absurd. The amount of money invested in the market isn't static either, yet another problem for your little "winners and losers" thesis there.

Seriously dude, try thinking next time if you're gonna talk some dumb shit

^Its got a paltry dividend and gains have been flat over a greater than 5 year period. Without knowing anything about the underlying business itself, what is it that would cause excitement about this stock given that we are in an incredibly high yield environment where money is being made all over the place?

In a roundabout way you've answered my question. Gonna go ahead pass on AQUA

[tomcat]

try thinking next time if you're gonna talk dumb shit

so, looking for better informed dumb shit then...

[redhaze]

Or just a nice dumb shit.....

[Luigi]

Quick Luddite Question.


With an account at say Aberdeen.

MIP - Thailand - Aberdeen Asset Management

Doing an MIP with direct debit each month, will you have and online account page, similar to your online bank account, or coins.co.th bitcoin account, where you see your balance etc?

Or is it a more manual process of following what's going on?



Cheers.

[Chittychangchang]

Course you will loove

[Luigi]

Where's ze log-in page?

Aberdeen Investment and Asset Management Company - Thailand - Aberdeen Asset Management

[buriramboy]

What type of return are you looking for? You mentioned Aberdeen Asset Management, their shares listed on the FTSE pay a 5% dividend or did last time I checked which admittedly was a while ago though. Don't hold them myself though as have a wedge in Legal and General.

[Luigi]

Cheers, that's just part of the diversity plan. Plan on putting into 3 or 4 things.


5% would be fine. 7-8% would be better, but not that important. Ease of setting it up and management of it - seeing what's happening and withdrawing to my bank account with the push of a few buttons is valued.

[buriramboy]

5% is just the dividend you have growth (hopefully) in the share price too. For example I bought L&G at circa £2 Now about circa £2.70, 35% capital gain plus been pulling in a nice chunky dividend on top of that twice a year. But that's actual shares in the company itself not the funds they offer.

[Luigi]

Cheers.

[buriramboy]

Personally I don't like funds as most of them don't beat the market plus you are paying fees on top of that for shit you can do yourself. But each to their own and whatever you are comfortable with. Only fund I'm invested in is a pension fund as the government currently puts 20% on top of everything you put in so mad not to take advantage, pay in 10k a year government adds an extra 2k only downside is can't get your hands on it till your 55.

[Luigi]

Thanks. Is the 15b for all amounts or per 1,000b

[Dragonfly]

Quick Luddite Question.


With an account at say Aberdeen.

MIP - Thailand - Aberdeen Asset Management

Doing an MIP with direct debit each month, will you have and online account page, similar to your online bank account, or coins.co.th bitcoin account, where you see your balance etc?

Or is it a more manual process of following what's going on?



Cheers.

What's with your obsession with Aberdeen, lulu ? have friends working there,

it's a lame firm with sub-par products, choose better alternatives

[Luigi]

choose better alternatives

Go on...

[Dragonfly]

Do your research or pay someone to do it

set your targets, and define your objectives, that would be a good start

saying I want to make 5% per year 100% guarantee, is a bit "unrealistic"

simply defines the level of risk you are willing to take, says losing 10,000 USD per year in a bad market

[Luigi]

better alternatives

Go on...

Do your research or pay someone to do it

Don't be shy BF, put your money where Somchai's cock is.

[Dragonfly]

Lulu, stop being a cheap SOB

If you have real money, pay someone to advise you, don't rely on sales people to recommend the right investment instruments, that's all Aberdeen does, distribute subpar products with no responsibilities or consequences when they bomb on you

if you have no money, like the majority of the poor SOB here on TD then you are fooked, and all you can hope is making it big on BitCoins or the Lotto

I define having money if you have annual revenues above 200,000 USD per year, with a few exceptions if you are making over 100,000 USD and blow it all on whores and beers

[tomcat]

I define having money if you have annual revenues above 200,000 USD per year

...a rather silly definition for someone hoping to get started on the investment ladder: USD500 a month (or possibly even less) regularly deposited into an investment vehicle (like a mutual fund of nearly any description) is one way to start. Of course, education concerning what other types of investment (as opposed to speculation) are available is a major factor...but the minimum amount is whatever you can afford to live without every month.

[Dragonfly]

USD500 a month (or possibly even less) regularly deposited into an investment vehicle (like a mutual fund of nearly any description) is one way to start.

absolutely, but it's more about building base capital and you don't need an advisor for this

the problem becomes obvious when you have too much "savings" and need to invest a large sum of money into really productive assets

like Buffet used to say, "my problem is not to invest 10m, or 100m or even 500m, but to invest at least 1B and there are not many productive assets to buy at that level"

the more money you have, the more difficult to invest it productively, and the risk to lose it all becomes bigger

[tomcat]

but it's more about building base capital and you don't need an advisor for this

well, our Lulu has jumped into bitcoin with, apparently, little knowledge of investment and is now starry-eyed (and fetchingly so) with the possibility of enormous profits...I would say seeing an investment adviser is, at the very least, a notion to be entertained before cocktails...

the more money you have, the more difficult to invest it productively, and the risk to lose it all becomes bigger

...somehow, I doubt this is Lulu's problem...

[HuangLao]

Any proposed wealth is nothing short of illusion.
Invented wealth isn't real.

Beware.

[redhaze]

Yeah you already said you invest in stocks so just more phony zen nonsense. Must be exhausting trying to keep up your act