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    Houses with no chanote

    The wife and I are looking at places in the Tak area on the river. So far most have no "paper". I don't intend to buy anything without a chanote but am surprised at the number of places that don't have any legal papers. Is there any procedure to get a chanote after the fact. Most of these places have been there for a very long time.

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    They're probably registered with the amphur as legal squatters. It's illegal to sell properties of this kind.

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    This link explains the different types of land ownership available here.


    https://www.samuiforsale.com/knowled...tle-deeds.html
    Last edited by Albert Shagnasty2017; 05-10-2017 at 07:49 AM.

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    Yeah thanks i figured something like that. I will steer clear of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnasty2017 View Post
    This link explains the different types of land ownership available here.


    https://www.samuiforsale.com/knowled...tle-deeds.html
    thanks

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    IMO as a farang, and you can afford it, and wanting piece of mind go for 'Chanote' titled land only. Once it's in your missus name then it's as good as money in the bank. No chance of it being repossessed by the government. Whereas 'Sor Por Kor' title means nothing and can be repossessed at any time.

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    Up here in the bush I'd say 75 percent of all properties are 'Sor Por Kor'.
    About once every 2-3 years a mob of bureaucrats come up from Chiang Rai and over a 2-3 day period they will start processing Chanote for those who request them.

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    Basically it the land does not have a chanote title deed the sellers do not own it and cannot legally sell it, or so i was told by a Thai Accountant whose advice has always been accurate in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    Basically it the land does not have a chanote title deed the sellers do not own it and cannot legally sell it
    As far as I'm aware you are correct. Sor Por Kor land, legally, can only be passed down to a family member upon their death. Anyone who has bought Sor Por Kor land and think they own it do not legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Up here in the bush I'd say 75 percent of all properties are 'Sor Por Kor'.
    About once every 2-3 years a mob of bureaucrats come up from Chiang Rai and over a 2-3 day period they will start processing Chanote for those who request them.
    That's a hefty percentile up there.
    ....and not a terribly uncommon situation, as Sor Por Kor land is acceptingly looked upon as "caretaking" property, be it known by the termed residents/owners or not.

    Luckily, the chanote securing process is easily accessible if not a wee bit bureaucratic.

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    We just spent a week up in BanTak looking at places on the riverside. Out of 5 houses only one has a chanote. Apparently the ones without pay “rent” to the local government and if we bought on of those we could get the wife’s name on the paper with a reasonably sized envelope. I would say most of the places up there between the little road and the river don’t have a chanote.

    Anyway we took the plunge and put a deposit on the one with a chanote. Just over two rai on the Ping river heading back next week to close the deal so until then anything can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Luckily, the chanote securing process is easily accessible if not a wee bit bureaucratic.
    It is so make sure a chanote is done before any cash changes hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naptownmike View Post
    Just over two rai on the Ping river
    Some beautiful property along the Ping. Enjoy.

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    Stick to Chanote it'll only be a tad more for the peace of mind.

    As to paying bribes to locals once you start where does it end, never have never will, causes ructions sometimes esp monks and immigration but they've given up at last .

    My Tip dress in clean inexpensive leisure (not your best Armani and General's Rolex !! clothes when dealing with all such types never have any cash only credit card and ask for a receipt for any payment. I find an old scout shirt and chinos adequate and never ever speak act dumb leave it all to wife
    How much deeper would oceans be without sponges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It is so make sure a chanote is done before any cash changes hands.

    Yep...

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