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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    Women are desserts, inferior, weaker.
    True: Peach Melba rarely recovers from cutlery assaults...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Have seen it once when the next door neighbour was trying to take the head off his wife with a machete. Another story.
    What pisses me off is/was when Immigration came round to our houses the other year. I had to have 2 villagers there in attendance to verify one thing and another. And one of the questions to my wife, well two, was do I 'treat her well and give her money.' Fcuking hypocrites.
    And this was when you submitted a retirement extension application?

    Quite why you had not submitted a complaint to their HQ is puzzling. The Colonel there clearly needs his wings clipped. They had no fucking right to do that Prag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    Sorry I don't see the difference here to the west.
    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    Violence against women in Asia is a huge problem.
    Women in the west claim the same thing.
    And both statements are correct. However, in the West there is a lot of legal and social support in place to help the victims, in the East there is not. In the West violence against women is generally acknowledged as being a problem which needs to be solved and much has been done at many levels to help deal with the problem. In Asia a lot of lip service has been paid to the issue but in general nothing much has been done to improve the situation. I guess a simple way to put is that in the west a known wife-beater would be ostracised and probably jailed, in many Asian countries he's just one of the boys and is just keeping the bitch in her place.

    That said, I have still never seen a Thai man beating up his female partner in public and still think the part of the OP after "I have seen" is mostly BS.
    I've seen Thai men hitting their wives a couple times. I've seen Thai women hitting their husbands a few more than that. Witnessed one throw a knife at her husband, only to miss and have it fly out the door and hit a tourist walking by in the foot.

    I've also had to disarm an ex of the knife she was trying stab me with, as well as another time the bottle she was trying to hit me with. (cue the bargirl jokes, but she wasn't one).
    As well, I was having to constantly watch my rear view mirror as any business dealings I had with her had yet to be settled, and her and her new Thai boyfriend knew it would be better for them if I was dead.

    So, from my, possibly biased, personal experiences, I have to disagree with Fawn.
    You should see a therapist. You prolly need it in order to move on and get over your experiences with domineering and violent women.

    BTW, did you hide in the closet and use make-up/concealers to cover your black eye and bruises? Did you lie and said you fell off the stairs when asked how you got those bruises?
    I am so unlucky that if I fall into a barrel full of D*ick**s, I'd come out sucking my own thumb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Have seen it once when the next door neighbour was trying to take the head off his wife with a machete. Another story.
    What pisses me off is/was when Immigration came round to our houses the other year. I had to have 2 villagers there in attendance to verify one thing and another. And one of the questions to my wife, well two, was do I 'treat her well and give her money.' Fcuking hypocrites.
    And this was when you submitted a retirement extension application?

    Quite why you had not submitted a complaint to their HQ is puzzling. The Colonel there clearly needs his wings clipped. They had no fucking right to do that Prag.
    No it wasn't for an extension. The local office at Kap Cheong decided that every farang on their books had to have a home visit irrespective of marriage or retirement. They claimed that too many farang were not actually living at the abode they claimed to live. And they wanted to stop this practice.
    All we got was a phone call prior to the visit saying they would be coming, but couldn't specify a time. They basically did numerous visits to farangs within the area and their modus operandi was the same for all the farangs that I know who got a visit.
    The stupid thing about the visits was that they visited all that were on their books but the ones who weren't never got a visit. The ones they wanted to catch.
    No point complaining to the top guy at immigration as he was the one who ordered it.

    Edit: I did a thread on it TheGent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
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    Have seen it once when the next door neighbour was trying to take the head off his wife with a machete. Another story.
    What pisses me off is/was when Immigration came round to our houses the other year. I had to have 2 villagers there in attendance to verify one thing and another. And one of the questions to my wife, well two, was do I 'treat her well and give her money.' Fcuking hypocrites.
    And this was when you submitted a retirement extension application?

    Quite why you had not submitted a complaint to their HQ is puzzling. The Colonel there clearly needs his wings clipped. They had no fucking right to do that Prag.
    No it wasn't for an extension. The local office at Kap Cheong decided that every farang on their books had to have a home visit irrespective of marriage or retirement. They claimed that too many farang were not actually living at the abode they claimed to live. And they wanted to stop this practice.
    All we got was a phone call prior to the visit saying they would be coming, but couldn't specify a time. They basically did numerous visits to farangs within the area and their modus operandi was the same for all the farangs that I know who got a visit.
    The stupid thing about the visits was that they visited all that were on their books but the ones who weren't never got a visit. The ones they wanted to catch.
    No point complaining to the top guy at immigration as he was the one who ordered it.
    Damn Surin scallywags.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    You should see a therapist. You prolly need it in order to move on and get over your experiences with domineering and violent women. BTW, did you hide in the closet and use make-up/concealers to cover your black eye and bruises? Did you lie and said you fell off the stairs when asked how you got those bruises?
    Is that what American women do? Thai women cut their husbands dicks off at an alarming rate, no hiding in the closet for them.

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    I've often wondered about these stop violence towards women campaigns . The problem IMO is violence in general. Usually but not exclusively male. There will always be those who prey upon people weaker than themselves. You rarely see a 50KG guy picking on a huge 100kg guy. Some guys are crazy and will fight anyone, they just love the violence and the adrenalin rush. Others for whatever inadequacy they have and others that are just opportunists, will prey on whoever they think are weaker. women in the main are not known for their fighting prowess and are easy targets. There have always been bullys and cowards and unfortunately IMHO, thus it will always be so.
    In many male societies "manliness" is equated with how well you can fight. It starts in establishing ones place in the pecking order at school and can often carry on through life with some. Then of course to add fuel to aggression, the ever presence of Alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    There have always been bullys and cowards and unfortunately IMHO, thus it will always be so.
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching...disappointing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    There have always been bullys and cowards and unfortunately IMHO, thus it will always be so.
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching...disappointing...
    Yes. When I was a child at a Christian Brothers school it was noticeable that no matter how many times they beat us we still remained violent little twerps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching...disappointing...
    And why do you say CHRISTIAN teaching when the thread is about Thais beating on their wives? Any so called MAN is far from being a man if he beats on a woman. It doesn't matter about the religion itself, it's in ALL religions and for me in what I've seen and read about over the years, it's mussies that commit more atrocities against women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    The problem IMO is violence in general.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    And why do you say CHRISTIAN teaching when the thread is about Thais beating on their wives?
    ...one generalization led to another, I'm afraid, in the way of many forum posts: I would point out, however, that one man's atrocity is another's religious requirement...'twas ever thus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn View Post
    Good for you Wasabi for supporting the local business.
    no problem, I've always had a soft spot for widows and orphans, so after hearing the bar girls tear jerking stories, I took the widows home and donated 1000bt towards each and everyone of them for the Isaan orphans.
    Charitable deeds should be done with out blowing ones own trumpet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    Charitable deeds should be done with out blowing ones own trumpet.
    particularly if there's a brownish blower in the area...

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    ^^ Yes, I've donated at least a litre of my special home brew to the same cause.

    ^ But not to yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    But not to yours
    *cough*...well, no...marriage is a sacrament...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
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    There have always been bullys and cowards and unfortunately IMHO, thus it will always be so.
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching...disappointing...
    You are talking Shite TC. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Violence can be found in all societies. Nothing at all to do with Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    Christianity has nothing to do with it.
    apparently so...Jebus wasn't as persuasive as we've been told then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    There have always been bullys and cowards and unfortunately IMHO, thus it will always be so.
    all this despite 2K years of Christian teaching...disappointing...
    You are talking Shite TC. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Violence can be found in all societies. Nothing at all to do with Christianity.
    In retrospect and reflection, has everything to do with Christianity and related brethren - Euro cultures.

    Backward.
    Disconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunner12
    Choke holds are best if you do get involved.
    although, cutting off blood to the brain may have no effect at all...

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    I can't believe what I am reading! So, no one would intervene at all??

    The first thing I would do is someone was beating the shit out of their gf/wife is do like the rest of Thais..... grab a cellphone and record the event.

    Bunch of cowards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    I have just read a story in the Bangkok Post about an Aussie in Phuket who tried to stop a Thai kicking seven shades of shit out his wife in the middle of the road. Needless to say the Thai and his mates then turned on the good Samaritan from down under and kicked him into a hospital bed.
    I have seen Thai men kick and punch their women before in public places and it always sickens me. They just dont care who sees them and its also shocking the way passing Thais just nonchalantly wander past as if its not happening.
    The question is would you intervene?
    Yes, because I couldn't live with myself walking on by while a woman is being beaten by a man. It'd play on my mind and I'd feel like a fucking coward for not intervening.

    I'm not a "hard man" by any measure, but afaic men who beat women are utter fucking scum and generally weak cowards, so I'd intervene and hope I didn't get my head kicked in...

    I've done it before, taken a few blows for it and got hurt for little appreciation, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khmen
    I'm not a "hard man" by any measure
    I might be able to help...

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    Re-reading the OP I see it was more relating to situations in SE Asia, wheras I was using the UK as my frame of reference...

    In the context of SE Asia:

    I'd like to think I would still intervene, but it would depend on the context...If I thought an intervention may present a mortal danger to myself I'd obviously have to walk on by. Though, I'd feel really fucking bad about it, and feel like an utter fucking coward for days after...

    SE Asian men on their own turf are a dangerous proposition - as an outsider you just don't know their back up and support in the local area.

    Even though you may be doing the right thing by intervening and protecting a woman, if the guy has power/influence/cronies in the vicinity you're getting a beatdown regardless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I'm not condoning the violence metered out to women but my belief is that violence metered out to men by women is about the same. Based on the fact men are more unlikely to report they've been beaten up by a woman.

    I'm not into all this shit that it's always the man.

    Roughly 40 percent of the victims of severe physical violence were men. The CDC repeated the survey in 2011, the results of which were published in 2014, and found almost identical numbers with the percentage of male severe physical violence victims slightly rising.Oct 26, 2015
    https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/the-num...771263030.html
    I've been in a relationship with a physically abusive woman...I dunno if it's at similar levels, but I'd suspect male on female violence is higher...

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