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Old 10-07-2016, 10:02 AM   #101 (permalink)
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this is thailand, and reason, doing whats best for the child and finding a sensible course of action are all anathema to a people who always believe they are right, are ruled by their ego and take any criticism of their behaviour, wishes and personality, however valid, as a direct insult.
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How about, meeting up with the mother, grandmother and perhaps another senior Thai who has some authority and having a discussion? Something along the lines of: this is a clusterfuk and we have all made mistakes, but let's put our differences aside and make a future for the little one. Firstly, we need to sort out the correct papers, nationality and a passport for him, a.s.a.p. Then, we need to consider his schooling and putting him through university, let's make a plan. &, of course, we want him to have the happiest life possible, and to some extent all of us too - how do we go about that in a way where we can all get along while foregrounding the child's future?
Great post, you'd obviously make a far superior father than this fukkin loser.
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Just got a PM off Fluke asking if I intend to be so annoying

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he should also be able to get Thai ID and Nationality when he completes his schooling at 16
Fluke, you know very little of Thailand even though you think you do. Thai ID cards are issued as from the age of 7 and the child must be registered in the blue house book. Has yer missus got a blue house book?
Thai ID cards are only given to Children who have a Thai Parent , although they can be given to people who have finished school at 16 who have no Thai parents and can show that they were born here and lived here ll their life
Although., as with most things in Thailand, there seems to be no set rules and those non set rules seem to be constantly changing .
My Boys mother could get Thai ID, if she could prove that she was born here , but she cannot do that .
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how old is the father again ? sleeping late and going to the bars every night doesn't seem like responsible parenting

being a single parent is very difficult, don't see how someone with no experience with kids could do it overnight, above all with a drinking history

maybe the grand-mother is not a bad choice after all, despite the difficult living conditions
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Go see a lawyer.

At the bottom of Stickmans weekly column he contacts Sunbelt Asia for his viewers for free advice. See what they say.

A nice bit of eyecandy on there last week too






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I would presume most men on here would have been banging on granny's door months ago. but not you, you seem to have come up with excuse after excuse.
It isnt "grannys" door, its my sons mothers house and granny lives there

Yeah, most "real" stupid men would have gone around there when the house was empty because they were all on a family holiday.
Most "real" stupid men would have gone around there and wrested the Boy from his mothers arms and ended up either dead or in jail or bang to rights child abduction .
Clever guys wait for an opportunity and then make a move .
I only found out last week that she isnt at her village house and when I saw the new Tarzan movie trailer , I then realised what needed to be done
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how old is the father again ? sleeping late and going to the bars every night doesn't seem like responsible parenting

being a single parent is very difficult, don't see how someone with no experience with kids could do it overnight, above all with a drinking history

maybe the grand-mother is not a bad choice after all, despite the difficult living conditions
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My Boys mother could get Thai ID, if she could prove that she was born here , but she cannot do that
What about the hospitals records? What about the birth certificate? What about the Blue book?



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Thai ID cards are issued as from the age of 7 and the child must be registered in the blue house book. Has yer missus got a blue house book?
Has yer missus got a 'Blue House-book'?

When your child is born your wife simply supplies a copy of her ID card and the childs birth certificate will show 'Thai' as their nationality. Then take the birth certificate within 14 days of birth to wherever your wife is registered on the house book and have the child entered on the house book there.

When the child turns 7 they can get their first ID card, but feel assured that up to 7, the child is already a full Thai citizen.
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I did, and you come across as an immature and irresponsible person

maybe your parents are putting pressure on you to do something but deep down you don't want to

how old are you ? I suspect less than 30 years old by the sound of it

and you have no job, and no real independent income, no judicial system is going to let you get away with that
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sounds like doing nothing might be a better option after all,

or it could really get worse the way you are managing things so far,
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2 outcomes to this

1, Somchai Smith stays in the village and at 16 starts drinking gut rot whiskey and selling ya ba.

2, At 16 Somchai Smith heads off to the big city, starts taking female hormones, starts wearing frocks and makes her money sucking cocks.

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you come across as an immature and irresponsible person
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how old are you ? I suspect less than 30 years old by the sound of it
I think Fluke has had both quotes thrown at him in every thread he's started.
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and no real independent income,
Do tell where my income comes from then ?
You have no idea what you are talking about .
If you do feel that you do indeed know what you are talking about, then state where my income comes from , if not, then shuuuuush
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If you love your son go get him. What are you even thinking about posting on this thread? Go fcuking get him. If you are not man enough to even try then please just slink off into a hole somewhere.
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I did, and you come across as an immature and irresponsible person

Well its rather strange that you say that I drink all night watching football in bars, when I posted that I have given up drinking and watching football and now sleep regular hours , IMO deserting children and leaving them is being irresponsible .
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Well its rather strange that you say that I drink all night watching football in bars, when I posted that I have given up drinking and watching football and now sleep regular hours
Now you're lying Fluke, you said
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Saying that, when I get my Son back, I will give drinking and football up .
I will be his sole carer , so I will be with him at all times .
Sleeping in the late evening and waking up at dawn and no alcohol at all
You haven't got your son back.
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Do tell where my income comes from then ?
well, in your own words, you mentioned your parents giving financial support, unless you meant something else

so where does your income from ? and is it regular and sustainable ? and how much ? if it's only beer money for your nights out, that's not good enough to support a kid

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when I posted that I have given up drinking and watching football and now sleep regular hours
for now you do, but with the pressure of being a single parent, don't you think that a night out will be deserved to take some pressure off ? you will think about it 24/7 and when the frustration will be too much, you will go for it, leave the kid alone at home, and we all know what can happen then. Your story is classic, happened many times over with irresponsible young single parent. If you were a young woman, it would be the same.

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IMO deserting children and leaving them is being irresponsible .
not when you are not capable yourself of taking care of them. Like I said, it could be far worse. You need to think about it. It's not about stopping drinking for a few nights, it's much more difficult than that.

I think Betty has the right solution, his advice was spot on. You need to sit down with the mother and talk nice with her. Compensation is going to be part of the discussion. If you can't afford it, it's not a discussion that is going to end well.

anyway, looks like you need to do a little bit more thinking about it all

your initial instinct of doing nothing might have been the right one, even though not ideal. Giving up to pressure from your parents is not really a good way to start. Unless your parents want to take care directly of the child. Also a possible option you might want to look at.
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well, in your own words, you mentioned your parents giving financial support, unless you meant something else

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No I didnt say my Parents give me financial support, although I did say that my Mother said that I should go to the village and get my Son.
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so you receive rent income or council money ? that's basically your "investment" plan ? well, you are fucked then,
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Yes you did.

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Well its rather strange that you say that I drink all night watching football in bars, when I posted that I have given up drinking and watching football and now sleep regular hours
Now you're lying Fluke, you said
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I will be his sole carer , so I will be with him at all times .
Sleeping in the late evening and waking up at dawn and no alcohol at all
You haven't got your son back.
I have stopping drinking all night and watching football , although I do have a few beers with friends occasionally, what I meant was that I have stopped the excessive drinking and now just have a few social beers in the evening and I will stop that completely when I get my Son back, which will be hopefully be today
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Fluke you still fail to mention if your son is registered on yer ex's Blue Book?
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Yes you did.

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Yep, My Mother told me to go and get my Son from the village
I quote clearly wrote that my Parents support my decision to go to the village to get my Son , there is no way that the post above can be interpreted as my Parents giving me financial support , you are either pretending being obtuse , or maybe you really are
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Jeepers.

Self-righteous fathers that have left their sick children so that they can stay shagging cheap Thai and Cambodian meat over this side of the World, talking about poor parenting.

I've heard it all now. FFS.

Ignore the fathering advice and focus on the legal side, while also making different plans for different situations that may occur. The aim must be to get you and your son back to your homeland, hopefully you realize that, and can plan different ways of making it happen. Best of luck t you and your son.
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