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    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    No its not.
    You reap what you sow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by landofsmiles View Post
    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    Only for bitter old goats who judge all Thais by one bad experience.

    Signed, Reformed Bitter Old Goat

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    Quote Originally Posted by landofsmiles View Post
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    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    No its not.
    You reap what you sow.
    Golden rule #1 never enter into anything here that you cannot afford to walk away from .

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    No its not.
    You reap what you sow.
    Golden rule #1 never enter into anything here that you cannot afford to walk away from .
    Surely that is the same rule for anywhere in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
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    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    No its not.
    You reap what you sow.
    Golden rule #1 never enter into anything here that you cannot afford to walk away from .
    Surely that is the same rule for anywhere in the world?
    That could well be but the laws in the UK are not quite the same here in Thailand or so I am informed by quite a few farangs who have finished up with a Matrimonial bloody nose .

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    That could well be but the laws in the UK are not quite the same here in Thailand or so I am informed by quite a few farangs who have finished up with a Matrimonial bloody nose .
    To be honest think the laws here are better for farangs then in the west, USA dead beat dads go to prison, other countries they take everything if you have kids.
    Here you walk away, no time payments unless you want to pay.
    Chances are you would lose your house in the west and have to continue paying the mortgage, while some other guy was sleeping in your bed.
    Mate of mine lost 1/2 his private pension in OZ, it's a time thing, married for a year here, lose what you paid for.
    Married for 20 years in the west, end up living in a bedsit, broke.

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    James; how could you be possibly be beating a drum that gives NO support other than what you want to pay, to children by your significant thai other should you decide to bail out?

    I find it sad that thailand isn't hard core about this given the sheer number of single moms you find in a village who were knocked up by their first boyfriend and then left in the dust as the guy beat a path to the next available piece of tail.

    Don't you think IF there were harsh laws here which mandated child support that there might be more thought put into the act of fornication sans condom?

    I think you're taking quite a cavalier attitude towards child support. Especially comin' from a guy who pastes chapter and verse of thai marriage, divorce or property law from the websites which all have that b/s boiler plate english version like it's the gospel according to thomas (which didn't make it into the version of the bible we use today).

    I know a LOT of foreigners married to thai women that had kidz from a thai guy before the foreigner got into the picture, yet those foreigners are shouldering the cost of raising sprogs which aren't theirs because the thai father fucked off long ago.

    NEWS FLASH: Dead beat dads SHOULD either pay, get their wages garnished OR go to prison, because they're dead beats and are welching out of their responsibilities. You don't wanna pay child support, here's a thought don't procreate!

    piwanoi hit the nail on the head; don't invest more into thingz here than you can afford to walk away from if it goes sidewayz..

    Now as much as I am firmly in the 'thai bashing camp' even I can't abide the broad brush b/s spouted by our newest member los about not marrying a thai. That is taking more than creative license with old adages..
    "Whoever said `Money can`t buy you love or joy` obviously was not making enough money." <- quote by Gene $immon$ of the rock group KISS

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    Possibly because LOS is a shill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    That could well be but the laws in the UK are not quite the same here in Thailand or so I am informed by quite a few farangs who have finished up with a Matrimonial bloody nose .
    To be honest think the laws here are better for farangs then in the west, USA dead beat dads go to prison, other countries they take everything if you have kids.
    Here you walk away, no time payments unless you want to pay.
    Chances are you would lose your house in the west and have to continue paying the mortgage, while some other guy was sleeping in your bed.
    Mate of mine lost 1/2 his private pension in OZ, it's a time thing, married for a year here, lose what you paid for.
    Married for 20 years in the west, end up living in a bedsit, broke.
    Actually I was writing about the farangs who buy vast swathes of land that can never ever be theirs , the very best they can hope for is his kids get the land on his sad demise but of course once he's ashe's or his Thai wife fucks him off and gets another Thai husband he will never know will he , ain't that right Yasojack

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    James; how could you be possibly be beating a drum that gives NO support other than what you want to pay, to children by your significant thai other should you decide to bail out?

    I find it sad that thailand isn't hard core about this given the sheer number of single moms you find in a village who were knocked up by their first boyfriend and then left in the dust as the guy beat a path to the next available piece of tail.

    Don't you think IF there were harsh laws here which mandated child support that there might be more thought put into the act of fornication sans condom?

    I think you're taking quite a cavalier attitude towards child support. Especially comin' from a guy who pastes chapter and verse of thai marriage, divorce or property law from the websites which all have that b/s boiler plate english version like it's the gospel according to thomas (which didn't make it into the version of the bible we use today).

    I know a LOT of foreigners married to thai women that had kidz from a thai guy before the foreigner got into the picture, yet those foreigners are shouldering the cost of raising sprogs which aren't theirs because the thai father fucked off long ago.

    NEWS FLASH: Dead beat dads SHOULD either pay, get their wages garnished OR go to prison, because they're dead beats and are welching out of their responsibilities. You don't wanna pay child support, here's a thought don't procreate!

    piwanoi hit the nail on the head; don't invest more into thingz here than you can afford to walk away from if it goes sidewayz..

    Now as much as I am firmly in the 'thai bashing camp' even I can't abide the broad brush b/s spouted by our newest member los about not marrying a thai. That is taking more than creative license with old adages..
    I disagree , you are not Thai bashing at all , just writing it as it really is , the bars in Pattaya ,Bangkok ,and Phuket are rammers with young girls who has been knocked up with a young Thai guy who has then just fucked off and left them with a young kid to sell the only thing she has left in life , this is the reason why I never ever look down on Bar Girls nor did my late wife ,and in closeing nice to read a post from some one who ain't frightened of speaking the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    That could well be but the laws in the UK are not quite the same here in Thailand or so I am informed by quite a few farangs who have finished up with a Matrimonial bloody nose .
    To be honest think the laws here are better for farangs then in the west, USA dead beat dads go to prison, other countries they take everything if you have kids.
    Here you walk away, no time payments unless you want to pay.
    Chances are you would lose your house in the west and have to continue paying the mortgage, while some other guy was sleeping in your bed.
    Mate of mine lost 1/2 his private pension in OZ, it's a time thing, married for a year here, lose what you paid for.
    Married for 20 years in the west, end up living in a bedsit, broke.
    Hey James ,seriously just what do you yourself actually own here in Thailand to do with as whatever takes your fancy , you say in past posts that you share your/your wife's house with your inlaws and have no privacy which you object to , do you call that living?

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    Jim , I would suggest you look at just one of your own posts in this thread (1075) you write of poverty back in OZZ , but they have Center link ,here in

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Jim , I would suggest you look at just one of your own posts in this thread (1075) you write of poverty back in OZZ , but they have Center link ,here in
    Thailand when you are alone you are quite alone https://teakdoor.com/farming-and-gard...-101-a-43.html (Rubber trees 101)

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    See Ocker Piannoy never gets tired of speaking to himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    See Ocker Piannoy never gets tired of speaking to himself.
    Speaking myself Yaso?, I could be mistaken here but I thought for some strange reason I was addressing Jim in my post #37 , FFS, stop playing to the gallery and get a grip

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    See Ocker Piannoy never gets tired of speaking to himself.
    Speaking myself Yaso?, I could be mistaken here but I thought for some strange reason I was addressing Jim in my post #37 , FFS, stop playing to the gallery and get a grip
    .And I forgot to add posts 34,35 and 36 were I was writing to another member and not myself , try staying off the waccy baccy for a while as you appear to be hallucinating

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    TD don't think I was saying it was good or bad just that farangs get of easy here.
    So why complain about divorce laws, 200 Baht in the ampor, how much in the USA.
    piwanoi I own 50% of of everything, as posted earlier, except for the factory, all lands were bought in the wife's name.
    Communal property, no distension in family law between aliens and Thais, you get 1/2 and 12 months to sell off the lands.

    I have a better chance of getting a 9 mil in the back of the head then a divorce, dead no contest
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    Some old wounds never heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post

    Don't you think IF there were harsh laws here which mandated child support that there might be more thought put into the act of fornication sans condom?
    I believe there are such laws, but of course the mother would have to pay a lawyer to take the father to court - a waste of time and money.

    Besides having to find the missing deadbeat, he'd have to have money one could take from him, and someone would have to do so. Good luck with this...

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    A divorced young man that fought for custody of his daughter ,and won, while being jerked by the system told me that he will never marry again unless the woman
    earns like him, saves like him, spends like him and has similar goals and outlook on life.

    He did not loose his duplex that he had before the union, lucky he was only married a few years and she turned out to have changed after the union to a pill poppen dead beat that was caught crossing state lines (with new boyfriend) with a van load of pot.

    He has a good future now as does his little girl but I know he would never remarry without a pre nup even If the prospect meets the above requirements.

    He learned this in his twenties. Hate to pour your life into it only to be shafted later he says.

    People do change as was evident by his young ex wife.

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    Where are all these obviously never been to Thailand dipstick newbies coming from?
    Has BM posted a link in huntingshootingfishingyeehaww.com or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WesSA View Post
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    Interesting thread. Can anyone define the term "khongman"? Saw this word in an article by a Thai lawyer in a publication in Patts. Seems to introduce something new to the sinsod issue.
    Khongman

    Under Thai law property given by a man to his fiancée as evidence that the marriage shall take place. An engagement (betrothal) is not valid without such property given (section 1437).
    This must be a new law or a Pattaya law!

    The wife and I just went to the local registry office in Bangrak, Bangkok.
    Signed our names on the dotted line, handed over the few hundred baht fee and received the wedding certificate. The translation for the embassy cost more than the wedding.
    Job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
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    Interesting thread. Can anyone define the term "khongman"? Saw this word in an article by a Thai lawyer in a publication in Patts. Seems to introduce something new to the sinsod issue.
    Khongman

    Under Thai law property given by a man to his fiancée as evidence that the marriage shall take place. An engagement (betrothal) is not valid without such property given (section 1437).
    This must be a new law or a Pattaya law!
    FWIW: it ain't a pattaya law and it's not just about property.

    The term ของหมั้น loosely means "engagement gifts" or things given to the bride to be by the husband to be as a show of sincerity that the marriage will take place. There are conditions where if the marriage doesn't take place due to x-y-z the stuffz given back, when it's not required to be returned and it's spelled out in detail here; Thai version

    Now ของหมั้น (Khongman) is NOT สินสอด (Sin Sod).. Those are different animalz all together. One is given as a sign that the marriage will take place when the couple become engaged to be married and the other is given at the dog-n-pony show thai wedding party.

    That's all I got..

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    ^Cheers for the reply, Similar to an engagement ring in the West then?

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    Isn't the FIRST and LAST rule of living in Thailand is to NEVER marry a Thai?
    The first rule of living in LOS is actually live here.

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