Rats

[Satonic]

I have used the glue pads before. Once a rat gets stuck I smash it's head in with an empty beer bottle. I prefer to put it out quickly rather than watch it struggle for hours.

And if you want to know the best bait to attract rats - peanut butter. It's like rat crack.

[hazz]

it's hard to believe that anyone with the slightest ability to emphasise with another living thing, would find difficulty in seeing the disparity of suffering caused between the method of drowning and that of an unexpected single deadly blow to the head.

In principle you are quite right, but the devil is in the detail. I have this rodent in a live trap. How do I deliver that unexpected blow to the head? The only way I can think of is to drop a sufficiently heavy weight on the cage made of 1 mm steel to squash it flat. At a steel mill only too easy but at my home?

In practical terms, I need to open the cage and grab the rodent, then hold it still on a flat surface whilst I then cave it's head in with a hammer. This has to be done quickly, with me getting bitten and without me missing and just winging the thing. Not something I am likely to achieve without a lot of practice I done want. In this context, how much difference is there in the suffering and distress caused, when comairing the process to simply tossing the cage in a bucket of water.


If I go for the kill option, which is the socially responsible option, I don't really favor any of the three methods I have just outlined.

If I can get hold of one of them I think I will anesthetis then asphyxiate it with ether or chloroform followed by drowning to ensure death. Or possibly asphyxiate with a pure co2 atmospher. I need to research this but it would loose councheness within 10's seconds.... And plan to buy a co2 cylinder ths weekend for my continued ginger beer experiments

[hazz]

^^ thanks for the bait tip. I am currently using squid

[Ratchaburi]

Shove the foking things up a katoeys arse would be a fair idea

I nominate Willy, Ant, AAndy, and of course, Rat, to be the "strike team"...

I'l put your name in there Biat-boy as you like it up the brown hole

[shaggersback]

The solution is all 3 methods. get a snake to take care of the rats, shove the snake up a trannys behind , hit it over the head with a beer bottle and then drown the fker.

[Rural Surin]

I have used the glue pads before. Once a rat gets stuck I smash it's head in with an empty beer bottle. I prefer to put it out quickly rather than watch it struggle for hours.

And if you want to know the best bait to attract rats - peanut butter. It's like rat crack.

Mama don't like vermin in her house....
Recently, we threw about 5 of those stcky-glue traps down....had seven mouses within an hour. Mother/Father and 5 babies.

All were still alive - struggling.
I promptly filled a bucket with water. Stuck them all under.
Quick death. Tossed them on the morning burning stack, a nice Buddhists cremation.

[Albert Shagnastier]

Drowning sometimes causes splashing.
This in turn may lead to someone slipping smashing their head and dying.
Simply drop the fucker in your mother inlaws pillow case, do the helicopter, and simply smash the little fucker into bits on a breezeblock.

Empty and return pillowcase.

[ShrewedPunter]

My dad used to collect trapped mice into a large plastic bag,, tied a knot in it, placed under the wheel of his truck and slowly drove over them

Quick. painless and humane.

[somtamslap]

^ Efficient, if a little sadistic..

[Rural Surin]

This discussion might be all but moot.
They out number us a million fold.

They've always been around and always will be [in numbers].
Survival of the fittest.

[Albert Shagnastier]

dad used to collect trapped mice

and slowly drove over them

Quick. painless and humane.

possibly debatable

[draco888]

Drowning sometimes causes splashing.
This in turn may lead to someone slipping smashing their head and dying.
Simply drop the fucker in your mother inlaws pillow case, do the helicopter, and simply smash the little fucker into bits on a breezeblock.

Empty and return pillowcase.

Sounds like a man with experience in offing wildlife. Don't suppose this helicoptering has been captured on video?

[draco888]

I have on occasion been called on to despatch rabbits which have been caught by cats and used as toys before being 'rescued' by members of the female species. Unfortunately the victims of cat abuse are really no longer in any state to continue living so a machete to the neck usually sees them off rather sharpish.

[draco888]

Crossbow?

[Troy]

I can't kill them so vote for the Cat doing the job for me...Got to earn his rent somehow.

They are more like field mice where we are in the sticks so I try to catch them early in the morning and let them go in the garden before anyone sees them and starts licking their lips.

The ex used to put the glue pads down and give them to her brother's kids to play with in the morning. It was never my cup of tea to watch them poke and prod the poor buggers...and then have the ex chuck them on the fire after the kids left for school.

[hazz]

This discussion might be all but moot.
They out number us a million fold.

They've always been around and always will be [in numbers].
Survival of the fittest.

a good point if i were intent on global genaraticide, but..... i am scoping ratcitdal instincts to rats on ma land, the rest I will leave to my cats

Anyway the discussion on what to do with ratty has just changed from an academic one to the practical issue of what to do with the rather foolish juvenile rat that just took the quid. thing looks just like my mates pet rats, you can see there is something behind those deep black eyes.

I think for this little chap, its going to be option 2, release away from where people live and somewhere where theres lots of corruption. Fundamentally I do not have the stuff to do a clean kill yet and I want the cage back for the others who are in the house/shop. lucky bastard.

I did consider the death race, that would be fun. but then I believe that taking pleasure from the death or torment of other forms of life is bad for your own soul.

[hazz]

then have the ex chuck them on the fire after the kids left for school.

eeeuuuu, not quite my cup of tea. did you hear about the chap that threw a racoon he found in his house into a bomb fire only to have the burning animal run back into the house burning it to the ground. Kama in action

[ENT]

Man up, bite their fwkn heads off.

[sunsetter]

did you hear about the chap that threw a racoon he found in his house into a bomb fire only to have the burning animal run back into the house burning it to the ground. Kama in action

loved to have watched that, did the racoon die?

[DrAndy]

I'm with Davis.
I drown the fuckers.
They eat the wiring loom in the car
They destroy control units in air cons
They do a lot of damage.
I enjoy killing them.

In Indonesia, we caught a big fucker that managed to come up a pipe into our kitchen cupboard

You could hear the bastard gnawing away at the door at night

I got a cage trap and in it went and there it was in the morning, all fleas and teeth bared, running around - no way was I going to open the cage to kill it

My driver took it outside and poured boiling water on it!!

well, it died

I think I prefer the snap traps, at least they die quickly

[DrAndy]

release away from where people live and somewhere where theres lots of corruption.

near the Parliament House?

[benbaaa]

This is one moral dilemma that I have managed to avoid. My three dogs deal with all our rat problems quickly and efficiently. Bite to the head and then some vigorous shaking is 100% successful. The op could always try that.

[DrAndy]

Here is a cute baby rat that is in my tank, along with the mother and other babies (no doubt)

The farmer can eat them

[The Fresh Prince]

I'm trying to find the pic of when my ex-boss felt sorry for a rat stuck to a glue pad and tried to free it.

As soon as he'd freed it, it bit his finger and wouldn't let go. So he firmly shook his hand and the rat let go but because it was still covered in glue it stuck to his leg.

Hilarious pic of it stuck to his leg. Gotta find it.

[Albert Shagnastier]

did the racoon die?

Yup, but he went out in a blaze of glory.