How much to buy a baby?

[aldogg]

I need advice. I married a thai women 3 years ago, she has a 4 year old daughter from a previous relationship. He disappeared after the baby was 6 months old. no money no help, he dropped off the radar completely.I'm currently in the process of getting marriage visa to get them here. In order to get my step daughter here I must have the father sign a document that states we can take the baby out of thailand with no restrictions. To make a long story short we find his mother in roi et who tells my wife he just got married and is a farmer in nong khai. my wife calls him and he says he will sign the paper. I send a lawyer and a notary to meet him with my wife and at the last minute my wife gets a call from a women(wife) saying he will not sign paper and that they want money and hangs up phone. We still dont have a dollar amount that they want. Im starting to get nervous because if we dont have the document signed my the time the interview comes the baby will get denied. cannot re apply for 1 year. naturally I refuse to seperate them because i know nobody will help her if she is here.

My plan is to find out where he lives and go in july to his house. I googled average thai income, it states $4400 a year usd. Do you think he will accept this? he doesnt want custody. im just afraid hes gonna ask for 1,000,000 baht because maybe he thinks im a rich american. Do you think it is likely he would walk away from $4400 usd? Im hoping a thai person can answer this question for me. Im in desperate need of help. thank you

[Loy Toy]

Bloody horrible and I feel your frustration.

Get your wife to be to take the daughter up to the father's property, tell them you have no money and ask the new scum wife can she bring the child up.

I know this sounds a bit weird but when confronted with the possibility of having to bring up another woman's daughter this conniving bitch will turn tail and run.

Good luck with it.

[Ratchaburi]

I'M with LT on this won.

[ralphlsasser]

I'M with LT on this won.

Me too.

[aging one]

Thats about all you can do. Prove the fucker took off.

[Necron99]

What she needs to do is get a court to give her sole custody.
Easily done I would think on the grounds of abandonment and the fact that he is married.

[aldogg]

Im sure i can have him killed for less, but i want to do this the right way. what is the right way? there is nothing right about any of this? i refuse to leave this child behind with her family. my wife refuses to have a confrontation or lose face, its just not in her to do. we dont even have an address in nong khai to go to. we only know where his mother lives. i sell cars for a living, i never thought in a million years that i would be negotiating the price of a child. I need a signiture or a death certificate. im losing my mind.

[aldogg]

Ive already contacted a lawyer, it could take up to 2 years to resolve the case. im trying to get child support to force him to sign the paper. but the lawyer says it will be difficult to do because they will want to know why she waited 4 years to do this. thai law is pro man. i dont want to wait anymore. Does anyone think that he would walk away from $4400? a years salary?

[Thungsongsausage]

Was she officially married to the father on paper? If she wasn't then you don't need fuck all from him!! The child is legally your wife's and has nothing to do with the father.
My sister-in-law went through the same thing when she married an American guy, as she wasn't married to the father the father didn't have any rights on where the children can go and live.

[Yemen]

Go for sole custody. If not enough time do not offer more than 10,000Bht.

[BaitongBoy]

The title of your thread is interesting. It might be more apt to change it to "How much to pay off an irresponsible loser?"...

Sad state of affairs, indeed. But I feel that the loser might accept a sum that isn't exorbitant, and I use that word partly because you mentioned having a lawyer...

I realize that a "good lawyer" is an oxymoron, but I feel that he/she should have some opinion on a monetary settlement.

I also doubt that Thailand really cares that said loser should be made aware of the years of neglect regarding his own daughter. This fact, and a rough monetary estimate, might be "presented to him," or at least mentioned by the lawyer.

Are there any situations in Thailand where a deadbeat dad has been held responsible by law for that which he should "willingly" pay?

This might "influence" the amount of blood money that these "suckers" want because I am not sure that they would be capable of compassionate thinking.

If there is a hint of a law regarding any responsibility on the father's part, your jackass lawyer should seize on this as a mildly threatening point.

I feel that more money should be spent on the lawyer than the bloodsuckers IF he/she can negotiate successfully. And I rarely feel this way. And it should not be a great deal of money paid to either party.

I wish you good luck in your situation. Let us know how things are going.

[aldogg]

he is on the birth certificate, never legally married. you cannot get the child a passport without both parents, it is thai law. i know this for fact.

[aldogg]

Im almost afraid of the lawyer to have him negotiate. I dont want him to get any ideas to help him extort me. Im at the point where i dont trust anybody. I was hoping to get his mother to reason with him because i thought thai respect their elders, apparently he is the exception. never in my life have i wished death upon someone until now.

[FlyFree]

Sounds like a classic to me.

[aldogg]

I keep having a dream that i went to his house to get him to sign the paper and i wind up in jail for les majesty law and get 30 years in jail.

[aldogg]

how did you come up with this amount and why?

[Thungsongsausage]

So all you need is a passport for the child, just get the guy to go with you to the passport office and get the passport!! Just say you are going to China for a holiday and she needs a passport.
They weren't officially married so he can't do anything, it doesn't matter if his name is on the birth certificate.... I know that for fact!!

[baldrick]

offer 10k baht - they are farmers , that is a lot of money - start low
obviously they heard a falang is involved .

[taxexile]

they heard a falang is involved .

could go on and on and on.

he will sense your desperation and the price will go up and up.

you may have to play the long game.

[laymond]

we had exactly the same problem years ago,and all we did was change the daughters name back to my wifes maiden name.the wife wrote a letter(stat dec)stateing all the facts(exactly the same as yours)and the head man of the village also did a letter up to support my wife.i think it cost 500bht to do the paper work and that was the end of the problem.my wife will be back in a few days,so if you need more specific help let me know.

ps,dont waste your money on the lawyer.

good luck.

[Albert Shagnastier]

^ That sounds like the way forward - easy and cheap.

[good2bhappy]

What she needs to do is get a court to give her sole custody.

try it

[robuzo]

Have the mother tried to get a Thai passport for the girl? The father's permission is not needed for that insofar as I know. Once she has that, just go.

[good2bhappy]

I realize that a "good lawyer" is an oxymoron, but I feel that he/she should have some opinion on a monetary settlement.

sad you think like that

[Smug Farang Bore]

Forge his signature and pay someone to witness it.

Cvnt can't write anyway and once your away with the baby he ll forget about it too.