I m a Thai teacher, need help please ask

**Camel Toe** · 27-08-2008, 05:21 PM

Chaaw-dtaang-bpra-ted

I've been called that once in seven years. From a university director with a PhD.

**MTL ae** · 27-08-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

Chaaw-dtaang-bpra-ted

I've been called that once in seven years. From a university director with a PhD.

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Dear Camel,

It's good to you to get more word from different people and situations, all will help you to fulfill your experience. I believe that many Thai words in your knowledge source will help you to select the proper word to say in daily life

Nice day,
Kroo Ae

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-08-2008, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by MTL ae

I would like to answer what you wonder about 'farang' word. I am not sure what is the exactly true story but I have heard from my teacher when i was in high school. She told us in the class that 'farang" is the word that we called the foreigners who came to Thailand for the first empire like French. I would say " the modern word farang is DERIVED from the original commercial contacts vistiing Thailand who were Frenchmen. Then refered to generallly as Farance, meaning Frenchman and became "Farang" as in present. So Thai will call European appearance that "Farang"

Amazingly, your teacher got it wrong. As with much of Thai culture, the word came across from India and Arabia.

**Smeg** · 27-08-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by MTL ae

Originally Posted by Fabian

Isn't "farang" an impolite or at least informal way to address a foreigner?

Dear K.Fabian,

It doean't matter.

What you mean is "please don't ask that. Just drop it. Farang that thinks and knows too much catches us out"

Farang is an informal word. For a Thai to use an informal word to refer to a person they don't know is impolite, especially if it is a word which is also used as a common noun i.e. refers to a type of fruit.

**dirtydog** · 27-08-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Amazingly, your teacher got it wrong. As with much of Thai culture, the word came across from India and Arabia.

Everything I have read states they don't know where the word "Farang" originated from.

**pai nai ma** · 27-08-2008, 06:31 PM

What is alex101's connection, if any, to MTL?

**Jack10** · 27-08-2008, 06:52 PM

i don't speak Thai but i heard from a Thai-French friend that the word farang comes from "FRANCAIS" which means French (for a person) in french (the language).
Thai people couldn't pronounce it correctly: so they actually said "FARANG SAY".
And it is how the word farang was used to designate a white person.

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jack10

i don't speak Thai but i heard from a Thai-French friend that the word farang comes from "FRANCAIS" which means French (for a person) in french (the language). Thai people couldn't pronounce it correctly: so they actually said "FARANG SAY". And it is how the word farang was used to designate a white person.

I guess India and the ME must've got the same word from the Thais then.

**MTL ae** · 27-08-2008, 06:59 PM

As with much of Thai culture, the word came across from India and Arabia.[/quote]
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Dear Marmite,

Your topic is interesting, can you explain me more about it root in the formal way. I'm ready to get more information to fulfill my brain.
PS. However, Farang(Guava) is my favorite fruit,then I have only the positive side with them.

Thank you,
Kroo Ae

**Smeg** · 27-08-2008, 07:03 PM

^ I love dogs. So is it ok to refer to Thais as dogs?

**Butterfly** · 27-08-2008, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jack10

i don't speak Thai but i heard from a Thai-French friend that the word farang comes from "FRANCAIS" which means French (for a person) in french (the language).
Thai people couldn't pronounce it correctly: so they actually said "FARANG SAY".
And it is how the word farang was used to designate a white person.

Yes this is the true reason, when they pronounce it in Thai, it's exactly the same sound as you would in French

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I guess India and the ME must've got the same word from the Thais then

Gee, you clueless ignorant chav, the French traveled all over, you think they only stopped in SE Asia ? the word could come from the same instance of events, and you wouldn't know it anyway

**Butterfly** · 27-08-2008, 07:14 PM

and the Fruit Guava was named after the French since they are the ones who brought them here,

**Norton** · 27-08-2008, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Gee, you clueless ignorant chav, the French traveled all over, you think they only stopped in SE Asia ?

Agree with the first few words but the Dutch and Portuguese arrived in Thailand long before the French. Not likely they would have called Europeans after the French. Think it was the Portuguese who first introduced chilies to Thailand from the Americas. Little did they know the entire population would become addicted.

**MTL ae** · 27-08-2008, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

and the Fruit Guava was named after the French since they are the ones who brought them here,

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Dear All,

Thanks Smeg for your mind.

Thank you so much Butterfly for your clearly information, i'm appreciate in this reply ... Take care.

Do not hesitate to ask me more topic ...

Kroo Ae

**Norton** · 27-08-2008, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by MTL ae

Do not hesitate to ask me more topic

OK. Here's one that's very confusing for most foreigners living in Isaan.

Most of the locals say they speak Lao language. Some say they speak Isaan Thai language. To me they are the same. Why do the people of Isaan use different terms when they refer to their language?

**Butterfly** · 27-08-2008, 07:45 PM

isn't Issaan, an old Laos province ?

**Camel Toe** · 27-08-2008, 08:49 PM

Think it was the Portuguese who first introduced chilies to Thailand

.. that were introduced to the Portuguese by the Spanish who brought them back from Mexico. Or, since Cristoforo Colombo was in fact an Italian funded by the Spanish, maybe the Italians should take the credit. My guess is CC was in fact a Chinaman who arrived in Mexico centuries before boats were invented.

**Norton** · 27-08-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

isn't Issaan, an old Laos province ?

Yes it was. The question for the teacher was why do people in Isaan call the same language by different names. Some say it's Lao and some Isaan Thai.

**Camel Toe** · 27-08-2008, 09:00 PM

Sorry, a non language question:

Ae, something that puzzles me is the amount of paet on many a Thai dish. I like spicy food more than most farang but I also like to taste one or two of the other flavours on a dish as well. The spice seems to dominate everything in sight. Do you know of Thais who ask for paet nit nit or no paet at all? I don't know if you're married with children, but if you are, were you there the first time your wife put a spoonful of chili whatever in your child's mouth? Did he/she make a funny face?

**jandajoy** · 27-08-2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

and the Fruit Guava was named after the French since they are the ones who brought them here,

What about "French letters"? How's that work then?

**jandajoy** · 27-08-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Camel Toe

Do you know of Thais who ask for paet nit nit or no paet at all?

Yes, my wife. 50- 50 Laos/Thai. Really doesn't like paet but insists on eating it on a daily basis and then complains about for an hour or 2 afterwards.
It's as though it were some kind of ritual. Nearly 3 years and she still hasn't explained why.

**MTL ae** · 28-08-2008, 02:09 PM

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Dear Norton,

Maybe people in Isaan notice that there are some different in the language they use from the original one, it's true that they got an influence from Lao but they still not 100% language user, another word in Lao that they don't understand and the Lao alphabet reading and writing that they cannot reach too.
...then, How can they call the quit different language by the same name... (0_0)?

However, I still worship my teacher's word that "language is arbitrary".

Good Luck,
Kroo Ae

**Bung** · 28-08-2008, 03:08 PM

Youv'e all got it wrong. It's Falang not Farang

Your welcome.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Yes, my wife. 50- 50 Laos/Thai. Really doesn't like paet but insists on eating it on a daily basis and then complains about for an hour or 2 afterwards. It's as though it were some kind of ritual. Nearly 3 years and she still hasn't explained why.

Mines exactly the same. eats somtam then complains about how spicy it is and how she has to go to the toilet a lot stomach no good then goes out the next day and does it again

**Marmite the Dog** · 28-08-2008, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

It's Falang not Farang

Only if you can't speak properly.

**matsalleh** · 28-08-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Bung

It's Falang not Farang

Only if you can't speak properly.

The writing is: ฝรั่ง - so if properly speaking, the R is to be pronounced!!

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