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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy
    In Myanmar we say 'ba' to make a sentence polite. Crazy,eh?
    Nice play on words.

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    I like the whole krab/ka thing- good manners seem to be lacking around the world of late. Started to take learning Myanmar a bit more seriously this year and have learned more in a week of lessons than I did last year. Compared to Thai reading and writing is considerably easier. Speaking much less so, the tones seem so more subtle to my ear for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    undeveloped and barbaric = medieval
    What an odd definition of medieval. I certainly wouldn't consider Chartres Cathedral or Geoffrey Chaucer as either undeveloped or barbaric. How sad that you are so divorced from history, lacking any cultural moorings it's no wonder you are so bitter.
    does the presence of skyscrapers in riyadh equate with saudi arabia being a modern developed society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    In Myanmar we say 'ba' to make a sentence polite. Crazy,eh?
    With exactly the same function as krab and ka?

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    my wife told me to fuck off today but put kha on the end. kinda softened the blow a tad.

    It was probably this one ฆ่า, or this one ข้า
    That's funny.

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    Although this thread is rather an old one I read it with much interest. I see that Dr.Bob says that “krap” and “ka” were introduced by Plaek Phibunsonkram. I must confess that this statement came as a surprise to me.

    I see from dictionaries that ครับ is a corrupted form of ขอรับ.

    For instance, in the time of Rama V, a male person speaking to an equal of higher person would add ขอรับ or sometimes use ขอรับผม.
    And in McFarlands Thai-English dictionary we find that when speaking to somebody with the rank of a Mom Chao you had to add ขอรับกระหม่อม, and when speaking to a “Royal Highness” (Somdet Chao Phaya or higher) you had to add ขอรับใส่เกล้าใส่กระหม่อม.

    I would like to understand what Plaek Phibunsongkram exactly did. Did he really invent the word “krab” (and “ka”)? Or was there a situation that before Phibunsonkhram only people of higher rank spoke politely by using these phrases and Phibunsonkram advised the normal people to use these expression(s) too? In order to get civilized?

    If anybody knows please tell me. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMB View Post
    I see that Dr.Bob says that “krap” and “ka” were introduced by Plaek Phibunsonkram. I must confess that this statement came as a surprise to me.
    He didn't invent it but he did make it universal.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMB View Post
    I would like to understand what Plaek Phibunsongkram exactly did
    Search up on Plaek's "Cultural Mandates", fascinating stuff and the foundation of much of modern Thailand, particularly the parts that people think are ancient Thailand /Siam.

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    There seems to be many cultural similarities between India and Thailand such as wyeing and different positions of the hands according to status. I wonder if some of these differentiations are the Thai equivalent of or were influenced by the Indian caste system. Has anyone yet done a thread on this? My knowledge of both systems is insufficient to start one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    There seems to be many cultural similarities between India and Thailand such as wyeing and different positions of the hands according to status. I wonder if some of these differentiations are the Thai equivalent of or were influenced by the Indian caste system. Has anyone yet done a thread on this? My knowledge of both systems is insufficient to start one.
    Not the caste system but hinduism has been a massive influence in SE Asia with Hindu Empires controlling much of it at times. The Thai national epic is the ramayana, Royalty have Brahmin priests, the influence of India is pervasive. It’s a huge subject and there’s a lot of information out there about this. I wrote some stuff on here about the subject over ten years ago, doubt it’s still around.
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