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cali kid · 18-12-2006, 11:13 AM

I recently got back for Vientiane where I stayed for a few days to apply for a non-immigrant visa. The last time I was there was nearly 5 years ago, wow.... things have changed. Before, hardly a car could be found, you saw them, but very few, motorcycles were around but if you stood on a balcony of your guest house it wasn't very evident, tourist here and there but once again not very evident. Really a very quiet town without much going on at all. Now when coming into town you might actually hit traffic, with a brand new Mercedes in front of you and a nice new pick-up behind you. As you walk through the town it is unbelievable the amount of construction going on, new side-walks be done all over town, guest houses being remodeled, and hotels opening up, the town is a lot cleaner than it used to be and there are many more venues for everything, food, drinking, dancing, romantic candle lit dinners, etc....(there is even a V-shop) Despite all that is going on the atmosphere is very "sabai" and given the friendliness of the locals I would think Laos would be called the land of smiles. Prices are about the same as Chiang mai when it comes to most western/Thai/Lao food, hotels/guest houses, but beware the Lao tuk-tuk driver, they will charge you quadruple the true price without a blink of the eye (so when negotiating go to one quarter or half of there price). If you decide to go to Laos make sure you bring dollars for the visa as it is more costly to pay in baht (about $10 more). For US citizens the cost is $35 or 1500 baht (you calculate the difference) and between $30 and $40 for most other European countries. All together my 3 night trip cost about 7000 baht including 1500 for Laos visa and 1000 baht for Thai tourist visa ( make sure all your papers are in perfect order when applying for non-imm visa, they are very particular). Anyway, has anybody else been to Laos lately? I would definitely recommend it as place to go to get away from it all for a couple days.

I left my USB cable at home, I'll have to post some photos later this evening

stroller · 18-12-2006, 11:44 AM

What are the closing times now?

cali kid · 18-12-2006, 11:55 AM

for the border? or thai immigration? or for the town in general?

The closing times for restaurants, bars, clubs is still generally 11:30 or 12 but there is a bowling ally in town that is open till 4-5am, when in town you can ask any tuk tuk driver to take you to "bowling" and they will know.

sunderlandstephen · 12-04-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cali kid

for the border? or thai immigration? or for the town in general?

The closing times for restaurants, bars, clubs is still generally 11:30 or 12 but there is a bowling ally in town that is open till 4-5am, when in town you can ask any tuk tuk driver to take you to "bowling" and they will know.

Thanks that`s handy to know

stroller · 18-12-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cali kid

The closing times for restaurants, bars, clubs is still generally 11:30 or 12 but there is a bowling ally in town that is open till 4-5am, when in town you can ask any tuk tuk driver to take you to "bowling" and they will know.

Ah, thanks, nothing has changed then since I went 2 years ago.

cali kid · 18-12-2006, 12:19 PM

While I was there, I was told by most of the locals that the biggest changes have taken place just in the past 2 years

Butterfly · 18-12-2006, 12:22 PM

I went back last year and yeah it has changed a lot. Last time I went there was 10 years ago and it was indeed a very quiet town, with only UN trucks or SUV patrolling around (mostly UN envoys, expats and diplomats)

They have a nice Danish bakery and the old colonial French houses which were in ruins are being restored for making nice little restaurants and hotels. Unfortunately the restoration is not always good, and they mix local "building materials" with the old colonial architecture which results is not what you would expect from a historic restoration. A shame really. I think they looked better in ruins as they were witness of a nostalgic time.

You can order my favorite Vietnamese food there, Baguette Patte

stroller · 18-12-2006, 12:28 PM

They had just closed the nightclub in that hotel, forgot the name now, and the "Bowling" had become the only venue after hours .
Don't know about all the building and modernisations, the fountain had been done up before then, no more cheap beer and free-lancers in the delapidated open-air cafe.

Well, I'll have to get out there myself and see one of these days.
Looking forward to your pics!

roderick17 · 18-12-2006, 01:54 PM

Is there any nightlife in Vientaine, if so how do I find it ??

Butterfly · 18-12-2006, 03:04 PM

forget about whoring, bring your meal with you

sunderlandstephen · 12-04-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

forget about whoring, bring your meal with you

Have heard girls frequent the bowling ally,did you try there.Reply when you can.Thanks

sunderlandstephen · 12-04-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

forget about whoring, bring your meal with you

What`s the pitfalls of meeting up with Thai girlfriend in Laos .I`m going via Bangkok,her from Udon Thanni.
What you susspended for,if you don`t mind me asking.This assuming your susspension lifted.

cali kid · 18-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Actually, it is very possible to go whoring, I myself was propositioned a few times, it depends on where you go. The nightlife, well, that depends on what you consider a nightlife. I believe there is between 7 and 10 places to go at night that would be considered like a club or disco and several more that are just bars. But keep in mind that all of these places will be closing between 11 and 12, which is when my nightlife usually starts, after that you would have to resort to the bowling ally, plenty of working girls there.

cali kid · 18-12-2006, 04:40 PM

Sorry, this is how you find it.
You have got to find a lady, easy enough, go to a place called "bor ben yung" some ladies will show up around 9pm just let one of them know you want to see a club or disco or whatever you prefer, I am sure they will be happy to show you around for the price a maybe a few beers, maybe not even that.
here are a few places:
Bor ben yung...
Duan chan....
Novotell....
Future...
Music house...
Oasis....

Butterfly · 18-12-2006, 05:45 PM

thanks for the tip

from what I saw, in the "secret bars", the meat quality wasn't that great and some were a bit too young for my taste.

klongmaster · 18-12-2006, 05:51 PM

the problem is not meeting them...it's where to take them for a shag...

it's illegal in Laos to have a woman in your room if you are not married...

so how do you get around that?...

friscofrankie · 18-12-2006, 06:50 PM

I haven't been for a few years, and ony a few times but never had a problem taking 'em to my room. usually the lobby's empty and no one has ever complained. I got soem dirty looks though, I always put it down to my natural good looks

roderick17 · 18-12-2006, 10:01 PM

Frank

Surely your good looks wouldn't draw some dirty glances from Lao girls would they ? LOL

On a more serious note, would you consider living full-time in Vientiane for a year or two or is the place just too dull to spend time in ? The reason for my question is that I am thinking of accepting a job there and I'm really not sure of what to expect or whether I will cope with such a serene environment.

Roderick

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Originally Posted by friscofrankie

I haven't been for a few years, and ony a few times but never had a problem taking 'em to my room. usually the lobby's empty and no one has ever complained. I got soem dirty looks though, I always put it down to my natural good looks

Butterfly · 19-12-2006, 10:34 AM

You can always do runs to Udon where all the hotties are these days !!! tons of uni girls looking for a farang there

cali kid · 19-12-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by klongmaster

the problem is not meeting them...it's where to take them for a shag... it's illegal in Laos to have a woman in your room if you are not married... so how do you get around that?...

I dont know if the laws have changed but a few ladies I was talking to told me that some laws had just recently changed, that being one of them i dont know. When one night a guy at the hotel saw me come back with a lady he simply asked her for her ID and we were off on our marry way without any problem at all, the other 2 nights it was too late and no one was around.

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Originally Posted by roderick17

On a more serious note, would you consider living full-time in Vientiane for a year or two or is the place just too dull to spend time in ? The reason for my question is that I am thinking of accepting a job there and I'm really not sure of what to expect or whether I will cope with such a serene environment.

I would recommend going there for a couple weeks before you make a decision. I definitely that depending on the type of person you are you could be happy there for a while, 2 years sounds a bit long but a year might be very nice.

18-12-2006, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
cali kid Displaced Member Last Online: 30-10-2009 03:34 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chiang mai Posts: 1,096	Laos, Vientiane I recently got back for Vientiane where I stayed for a few days to apply for a non-immigrant visa. The last time I was there was nearly 5 years ago, wow.... things have changed. Before, hardly a car could be found, you saw them, but very few, motorcycles were around but if you stood on a balcony of your guest house it wasn't very evident, tourist here and there but once again not very evident. Really a very quiet town without much going on at all. Now when coming into town you might actually hit traffic, with a brand new Mercedes in front of you and a nice new pick-up behind you. As you walk through the town it is unbelievable the amount of construction going on, new side-walks be done all over town, guest houses being remodeled, and hotels opening up, the town is a lot cleaner than it used to be and there are many more venues for everything, food, drinking, dancing, romantic candle lit dinners, etc....(there is even a V-shop) Despite all that is going on the atmosphere is very "sabai" and given the friendliness of the locals I would think Laos would be called the land of smiles. Prices are about the same as Chiang mai when it comes to most western/Thai/Lao food, hotels/guest houses, but beware the Lao tuk-tuk driver, they will charge you quadruple the true price without a blink of the eye (so when negotiating go to one quarter or half of there price). If you decide to go to Laos make sure you bring dollars for the visa as it is more costly to pay in baht (about $10 more). For US citizens the cost is $35 or 1500 baht (you calculate the difference) and between $30 and $40 for most other European countries. All together my 3 night trip cost about 7000 baht including 1500 for Laos visa and 1000 baht for Thai tourist visa ( make sure all your papers are in perfect order when applying for non-imm visa, they are very particular). Anyway, has anybody else been to Laos lately? I would definitely recommend it as place to go to get away from it all for a couple days. I left my USB cable at home, I'll have to post some photos later this evening

18-12-2006, 12:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,901	I went back last year and yeah it has changed a lot. Last time I went there was 10 years ago and it was indeed a very quiet town, with only UN trucks or SUV patrolling around (mostly UN envoys, expats and diplomats) They have a nice Danish bakery and the old colonial French houses which were in ruins are being restored for making nice little restaurants and hotels. Unfortunately the restoration is not always good, and they mix local "building materials" with the old colonial architecture which results is not what you would expect from a historic restoration. A shame really. I think they looked better in ruins as they were witness of a nostalgic time. You can order my favorite Vietnamese food there, Baguette Patte Last edited by Butterfly : 18-12-2006 at 12:31 PM.

18-12-2006, 04:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
cali kid Displaced Member Last Online: 30-10-2009 03:34 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chiang mai Posts: 1,096	Sorry, this is how you find it. You have got to find a lady, easy enough, go to a place called "bor ben yung" some ladies will show up around 9pm just let one of them know you want to see a club or disco or whatever you prefer, I am sure they will be happy to show you around for the price a maybe a few beers, maybe not even that. here are a few places: Bor ben yung... Duan chan.... Novotell.... Future... Music house... Oasis.... Last edited by cali kid : 19-12-2006 at 10:42 AM.

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18-12-2006, 11:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 07:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,164	What are the closing times now?

18-12-2006, 11:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
cali kid Displaced Member Last Online: 30-10-2009 03:34 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chiang mai Posts: 1,096	for the border? or thai immigration? or for the town in general? The closing times for restaurants, bars, clubs is still generally 11:30 or 12 but there is a bowling ally in town that is open till 4-5am, when in town you can ask any tuk tuk driver to take you to "bowling" and they will know.

18-12-2006, 12:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
cali kid Displaced Member Last Online: 30-10-2009 03:34 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chiang mai Posts: 1,096	While I was there, I was told by most of the locals that the biggest changes have taken place just in the past 2 years

18-12-2006, 12:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 07:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,164	They had just closed the nightclub in that hotel, forgot the name now, and the "Bowling" had become the only venue after hours . Don't know about all the building and modernisations, the fountain had been done up before then, no more cheap beer and free-lancers in the delapidated open-air cafe. Well, I'll have to get out there myself and see one of these days. Looking forward to your pics!

18-12-2006, 01:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
roderick17 Patong Beach Last Online: 11-08-2009 06:32 PM Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 28	Is there any nightlife in Vientaine, if so how do I find it ??

18-12-2006, 03:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,901	forget about whoring, bring your meal with you

18-12-2006, 04:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
cali kid Displaced Member Last Online: 30-10-2009 03:34 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chiang mai Posts: 1,096	Actually, it is very possible to go whoring, I myself was propositioned a few times, it depends on where you go. The nightlife, well, that depends on what you consider a nightlife. I believe there is between 7 and 10 places to go at night that would be considered like a club or disco and several more that are just bars. But keep in mind that all of these places will be closing between 11 and 12, which is when my nightlife usually starts, after that you would have to resort to the bowling ally, plenty of working girls there.

18-12-2006, 05:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,901	thanks for the tip from what I saw, in the "secret bars", the meat quality wasn't that great and some were a bit too young for my taste.

18-12-2006, 05:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
klongmaster Thailand Forum Last Online: Yesterday 05:44 PM Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nonthaburi Posts: 3,842	the problem is not meeting them...it's where to take them for a shag... it's illegal in Laos to have a woman in your room if you are not married... so how do you get around that?...

19-12-2006, 10:34 AM	#19 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,901	You can always do runs to Udon where all the hotties are these days !!! tons of uni girls looking for a farang there

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