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Milkman · 19-10-2006, 10:20 PM

^ I think mad_dog is spot on.

Little Chuchok · 19-10-2006, 10:20 PM

I would also say that any american or isralie forces that kill kids are also kunts.

machangezi · 19-10-2006, 10:21 PM

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^ I think mad_dog is spot on.

Mashallah Milky, mashallah.

Little Chuchok · 19-10-2006, 10:21 PM

So killing children is ok milkman and macha?

machangezi · 19-10-2006, 10:24 PM

I read someone saying that "killing of innocents" ain't justified. I couldn't agree more but why's the American and Israeli military killing indiscriminately? Perhaps it's time for the people of those countries to have their voice heard by throwing these gov'ts out. IMO this is the first step to discipline. Also, the Muslim world need to be more diplomatic rather acting like idiots. They need to sort their own differences before pointing fingers at others. They also need to condemn those responsible for suicide bombings that's taking thousands of innocent lives on monthly basis.

machangezi · 19-10-2006, 10:25 PM

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So killing children is ok milkman and macha?

That was just a joke mate. Read my post above this please.

Little Chuchok · 19-10-2006, 10:27 PM

^ You are right, but milkman,maddod,butterfly seem like they agree with innocent children being murdered.nice.

Macha..just read the above post...I removed your name.

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:27 PM

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In essence Israel is a militarised society this means that all Israelis are legitimate targets

Absolutely correct. Definitely target material. If AQ had any balls, they would target Israel on a constant basis.

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resistance movements???? what are they resisting??? Israel's right to exist???

History books ? ever heard of them ? a book for that matter ?

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:31 PM

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^ You are right, but milkman,maddod,butterfly and yourself seem like you agree with innocent children being murdered.nice.

Murder is never ok, but wars is nothing more than the legalization of murders. Something we, the western civilization, are very proud of.

At the end, it's all collateral damages. Israel killing children, Palestinian killing teenagers etc...

And who is winning in that battle ?

ceburat · 19-10-2006, 10:33 PM

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what's with the obsession with Israel on both side of the fence. I support Palestinian terrorism because I think it's perfectly justified, but why is it OK to support Israel blowing up children, while it's not OK for Palestinian to defend themselves ? why is it that all those Christian "believers" have this hardon for Israel ? why not the hardon for Palestinian ? is that a race issue ?

It's not ok for Palestinian or Isrlie to kill any innocents, men, women, or children. No terrorism is justified. Terrorism is a cowards way to fight.

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:38 PM

I disagree. It's justified in some ways and we are all potential terrorists. Yes it's a desperate measure, but no more cowardly than hi-tech bombers dropping a nuke or thousands of bombs on civilians (Japan, Germany, Iraq)

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:40 PM

Question to the Anti-Terrorist crowd:

what if the US was invaded by China and half your country surrendered ? what would you do ? cooperate with the Chinese ? or go underground ?

ceburat · 19-10-2006, 10:40 PM

Collateral damages happens in war. But to use women and children as human shields and/or to kill them by terriorist activities with no regard for their life is evil and wrong.

KID · 19-10-2006, 10:42 PM

^ your a fukin idiot buttfly-- yes Israel attacked first on the 7 day war but who has been the aggressor as of late???

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:43 PM

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But to use women and children as human shields and/or to kill them by terriorist activities with no regard for their life is evil and wrong.

They all become human shields when some troops are deliberately targetting civilians. How about lifting the embargo on the Palestinian importation of weapons and let them sort military with Israel ?

KID · 19-10-2006, 10:44 PM

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Question to the Anti-Terrorist crowd:

what if the US was invaded by China and half your country surrendered ? what would you do ? cooperate with the Chinese ? or go underground ?

It will never happen-- TO MANY ARMED CITIZENS HERE IN THE STATES

would the Chinese be bringing along their wife and kids so we could suicide bomb them??? didn't think so-- so any aggression toward the invaders would be strictly MILITARY TARGETS and would be normal acts of warfare

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:44 PM

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but who has been the aggressor as of late???

Israel ? why you ask such a silly question ?

ceburat · 19-10-2006, 10:45 PM

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Question to the Anti-Terrorist crowd:

what if the US was invaded by China and half your country surrendered ? what would you do ? cooperate with the Chinese ? or go underground ?

What would be gained by killing their women and children? Be a man, go kill the men who invaded your country. Yes working from the underground is one way to do it.

Butterfly · 19-10-2006, 10:46 PM

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It will never happen-- TO MANY ARMED CITIZENS HERE IN THE STATES

and that would stop them from surrendering ? what if the Chinese nuke a city as an example of not surrendering your weapons ?

and you failed to answer the original question ? what would you be ? collaborator or terrorist freedom fighter ?

mad_dog · 19-10-2006, 10:46 PM

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In Israel military service is mandatory for men and women, Israelis pay taxes to fund the distruction of the Palestinians and occupation of surrounding countries, the vast majority of Israelis support the systematic degredation of the Palestinain people. In essence Israel is a militarised society this means that all Israelis are legitimate targets. Hamas, the Al Aqsa Martyyrs Brigades, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, FATAH and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine are all valid resistance movements.

So you believe a Palestinain who blows himself up to kill Israelis is justified, even tho he kills say a half-dozen innocent Isralie children?

Is an Israeli pilot who drops defective US Vietnam era cluster bombs on Southern Lebanon in the last 24 hours of conflict trying to kill Hesbollah fighters or Lebanese women and children? The idea that if a sovereign state commits politcal violence it is always legitmate and if a people that don't have a sovereign state commit poltical violence it is always illigitimate is ridiculous. People have a right to defend themselves.

19-10-2006, 10:24 PM	#45 (permalink)
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19-10-2006, 10:38 PM	#51 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,645	I disagree. It's justified in some ways and we are all potential terrorists. Yes it's a desperate measure, but no more cowardly than hi-tech bombers dropping a nuke or thousands of bombs on civilians (Japan, Germany, Iraq) Last edited by Butterfly : 19-10-2006 at 10:41 PM.

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Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 9,391	^ I think mad_dog is spot on.

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Little Chuchok Senior Member Last Online: 22-10-2008 07:06 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,268	I would also say that any american or isralie forces that kill kids are also kunts.

19-10-2006, 10:21 PM	#44 (permalink)
Little Chuchok Senior Member Last Online: 22-10-2008 07:06 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,268	So killing children is ok milkman and macha?

19-10-2006, 10:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
Little Chuchok Senior Member Last Online: 22-10-2008 07:06 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,268	^ You are right, but milkman,maddod,butterfly seem like they agree with innocent children being murdered.nice. Macha..just read the above post...I removed your name.

19-10-2006, 10:40 PM	#52 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,645	Question to the Anti-Terrorist crowd: what if the US was invaded by China and half your country surrendered ? what would you do ? cooperate with the Chinese ? or go underground ?

19-10-2006, 10:40 PM	#53 (permalink)
ceburat Elite Member Last Online: 22-11-2008 10:06 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,289	Collateral damages happens in war. But to use women and children as human shields and/or to kill them by terriorist activities with no regard for their life is evil and wrong.

19-10-2006, 10:42 PM	#54 (permalink)
KID Wat Sra Si Last Online: Today 03:47 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 917	^ your a fukin idiot buttfly-- yes Israel attacked first on the 7 day war but who has been the aggressor as of late???