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Old 25-11-2009, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Climate Change and cooking the books.

Being plastered all over the net a the moment of emails intercepted by well-known climate scientologist and the book cooking.
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The University of East Anglia's Hadley Climatic Research Centre appears to have suffered a security breach earlier today, when an unknown hacker apparently downloaded 1079 e-mails and 72 documents of various types and published them to an anonymous FTP server. These files appear to contain highly sensitive information that, if genuine, could prove extremely embarrassing to the authors of the e-mails involved. Those authors include some of the most celebrated names among proponents of the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).
The FTP link first appeared on a blog called The Air Vent. The blog's owner, identified as "Jeff Id", downloaded the file, examined it, and posted a brief summary on his blog. Another commenter, identified as "Steven Mosher," passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's Climate Audit blog and to another blog, The Blackboard, run by a blogger identified as "Lucia." Most recently, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog titled "Watts Up With That?" mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.

Hadley CRU hacked with release of hundreds of docs and emails
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A BBC Weather presenter who was discussed by scientists in the “climategate” emails says he was forwarded the material more than five weeks before it was made public on the internet.
Paul Hudson, a weather presenter and climate correspondent for the BBC, notes on his blog “I was forwarded the chain of e-mails on the 12th October,”.
Hudson says he saw the exact emails that were either hacked or leaked from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University placed on the internet last week.
“The e-mails released on the internet as a result of CRU being hacked into are identical to the ones I was forwarded and read at the time and so, as far as l can see, they are authentic.” Hudson notes.
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Old 26-11-2009, 09:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Heh...what a bunch of shit-bags, eh?

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Old 26-11-2009, 10:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, since this thread is now in both Issues and World News, maybe someone should copy it to Cooking too...
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Old 28-11-2009, 05:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This hoax is gonna big BIG news...

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The Green Movement is currently at Condition Red because of the Climategate emails. Stolen from America Is An Obamanation.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Al Gore bails on lecture at Copenhagen

Alternate headline: “Pope to skip Easter mass.”
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I'd like to see Al Gore squirm his way out of this one. The slimy cocksucker!
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Heh...chickens coming home to roost and all that!



Al Gore was confronted on Climategate at a book-signing this past weekend in Chicago. Of course, he didn’t respond to their questions.
Several activists from We Are Change Chicago pulled off the protest.

The activists later chased junk scientist Al Gore down the street after the event.
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Here is a video. It's too bad this debate is a political debate moreso than a scientific one, today.

And for the record, I think global warming is happening, but I am a layman.

Here is a viewpoint on the politics of this issues.

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I'd like to see Al Gore squirm his way out of this one.
squirm his way out of what, earl?

this entire episode from the OP is nothing but a manufactured 'scandal' that is based on misinformation and half-truths... and a coordinated media blitz by the usual suspects.......fox 'news', drudge, talk radio, and pajama clad bloggers.

but feel free to post the smoking gun for this scandal....btw, you'd be the first to do so. in case you haven't noticed, no one has produced one yet.

needless to say, i won't hold my breath.... you won't be posting a smoking gun.....because there is no smoking gun.

don't you ever get tired of being a rube?


apparently not.
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this entire episode from the OP is nothing but a manufactured 'scandal' that is based on misinformation and half-truths... and a coordinated media blitz by the usual suspects.......fox 'news', drudge, talk radio, and pajama clad bloggers.

Well said. Interesting interview on the Beeb WS today.

When comments are read in context they seem reasonable.

Quote some bloke.....

" this is perfectly normal in science. The cut and thrust of debate. It's always like this."
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The FTP link first appeared on a blog The blog's owner, identified as "Jeff Id", posted a brief summary on his blog. "Steven Mosher," passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's blog and to another blog, run by a blogger, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.
That's about the sum of the OP, but what is the actual scandalous information??

Sounds like a crock of shit.
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Kinda says it all, eh?
What are those lefties afraid of?

Lamestream Media: A.P. Assigns 11 “Fact-Checkers” to Palin’s Book, Only 5 To ClimateGate Emails.
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Kinda says it all, eh?
What are those lefties afraid of?

Lamestream Media: A.P. Assigns 11 “Fact-Checkers” to Palin’s Book, Only 5 To ClimateGate Emails.
Yes it does - and what it says is that any Republican producing a book is likely to have distortions, misinformation and outright lies in it.
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Back on topic:

“In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: ‘These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.’

“However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast.

“‘It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,’ Dr Maslowski said. ‘I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.’

“Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a “ballpark figure” several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore.”

Ballpark figures, eh? So that's what these "usual suspects" aboard here are hanging their hats upon?
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Ballpark figures, eh? So that's what these "usual suspects" aboard here are hanging their hats upon
No you dummy, it's your quote, it's what you are using to try and discredit climate change.
I am sure you realise perfectly well what a complete moron you are, or at least i hope you do.
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this quote is over a week old....

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but feel free to post the smoking gun for this scandal....btw, you'd be the first to do so.

in case you haven't noticed, no one has produced one yet.

needless to say, i won't hold my breath.... you won't be posting a smoking gun.....because there is no smoking gun.
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Ballpark figures, eh? So that's what these "usual suspects" aboard here are hanging their hats upon
No you dummy, it's your quote, it's what you are using to try and discredit climate change.
I am sure you realise perfectly well what a complete moron you are, or at least i hope you do.
Heh...who's the moron, eh? Better get back to the books there, K. TEFLer...

Daily Express | UK News :: Climate change is natural: 100 reasons why
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Ballpark figures, eh? So that's what these "usual suspects" aboard here are hanging their hats upon
No you dummy, it's your quote, it's what you are using to try and discredit climate change.
I am sure you realise perfectly well what a complete moron you are, or at least i hope you do.
Heh...who's the moron, eh? Better get back to the books there, K. TEFLer...

Daily Express | UK News :: Climate change is natural: 100 reasons why
When your bullshit newspaper speculation has been rubbished on other threads you brepeat it here. Not everyone is as stupid as you BM.
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Heh...I'll continue to brepeat (sic) it until you Moonbats realize the global Warming Scam is a genuine, bonifide hoax!

Leaked e-mails from British climate scientists - in a scandal known as "Climate-gate" - suggest that that has been manipulated to exaggerate global warming. Doubt that, eh?
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