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Old 05-11-2009, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Guy Fawkes Day, 2009

A British historical event on November 5th, and that was and is celebrated, is noted by the non-British now as well.

I'd like to hear any British opinions on Guy Fawkes and the holiday.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Failed terrorist.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Failed terrorist.
Yes, many consider him so.

Please expand, if you desire.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe later, not at this hour.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Same old story, religious extremist.

Brainwashed at an early age. This time by Catholics.

Plan was to kill the King of England, the heir and ironically most of the Catholic aristocracy.

Anyway, he was betrayed.

When I was young I didn't know whether he was good or bad. It just meant bonfires and fireworks.

But obviously he was a terrorist. A 'non-government authorised agent of intended or actual murder or destruction.'

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Old 05-11-2009, 11:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Intended to use the bombing of the UK parliament building as the catalyst to instigate a popular uprising and overthrow the sitting regime for religious and/or financial reasons.

Not really that different from the invasion of Iraq really if one substitutes 'bombing of UK parliament' for 'weapons of mass destruction'.

Neither plot worked out as intended though, although both were conceived as ways to circumvent inconvenient laws..
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Being a Catholic, I object to the idea of any ritual burning of any image of my Catholic brother
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I do see the entire case as Ironic, particularly for those the hold his name in honour.

For the reasons noted above.

Perhaps his martyrdom - or perceived martyrdom - has inspired others, even though it is symbolic inspiration.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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He was a mercenary in Holland prior to falling in with his religious nutjob mates.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If only old Guido were still around today - we have work for him. Lot's of work.
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I like it, it's sparkly and shiny, plus boomy.
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Yes you cant beat a bit of boomy, and the big bang as a crescendo
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put up job to discredit the catholics. Smacks of black opps. Most probably the cia.
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a crescendo
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Like the fact that a non-conformist anarchist is honoured and celebrated each year, even if it's to burn his arse. Good excuse for a party at this time of year when the clocks have gone back and winter's kicking in....Kids love it, sparklers and all, NHS don't: emergencies. Oldies and dogs hate it as kids let off bangers weeks before and after. English culure, innit!
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Perfect fit mate welldone, not the big bang I was hoping to see but welldone anway
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Perfect fit mate welldone, not the big bang I was hoping to see but welldone anway
Vicariously versus voluminous for the vacuum of volume in vadimony presented.

Vacant my vaniloquence and votive of avoiding vapulation and varia, and in interest of earlier variorum I proffer a venial, verecund verbigeration.
With versability and voluntarily videlicet view this as vis-a-vis a visceral visible video without vitilitigation, yet with vitality and voraciousness as volunteered!





/also 'vulviform' is a word, but I couldn't work it in there



//vulviform (I just wanted to type it again)
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