Thread: Is Islamofascism spreading to Thailand ?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by surasak

Was it appeasement when we never fired a shot at Russia during the Cold War? Even when we lost Vietnam the rest of Asia didn't topple like dominos, did it? We didn't need to invade and occupy the Soviet Union in order to defeat Communism. We defeated the Soviet Union without ever firing a shot at Moscow, dropping a bomb in the Urals, or sending hundreds of thousands of troops into the motherland because we did it economically just as we should defeat the sponsors of terrorism economically.

We bankrupted Russia in the arms race goofus. Remember ? Things like zillions of dollars on a 600 ship navy!

Since you think we should use economics to defeat the sponsors of terrorism ... please tell how we can use this tactic against Iran ? Are you advocating embargoes ? Sanctions ? Would you like to see the kids in Iran starve ? Is that it.

Ya think? So you consider terrorism a worse threat than nuclear war with a country dedicated to MASD? Geez, better stay on your ship then.

When I was younger the thought of nuclear war from Russia frightened me to the point of having dreams about missile raining down from the sky. Iran isn't a threat. Not even close.

Originally Posted by surasak

When I was younger the thought of nuclear war from Russia frightened me to the point of having dreams about missile raining down from the sky. Iran isn't a threat. Not even close.

I was never worried about Russia using their Nukes. I do worry that freakazoids like the Iraniacs would use them or give them to some crackpots like Hezbullfullofshit to use.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by surasak

When I was younger the thought of nuclear war from Russia frightened me to the point of having dreams about missile raining down from the sky. Iran isn't a threat. Not even close.

I was never worried about Russia using their Nukes. I do worry that freakazoids like the Iraniacs would use them or give them to some crackpots like Hezbullfullofshit to use.

If you get past the rhetoric then you shouldn't worry about Iran either. After all, they need us to buy their oil. They may bark but they aren't going to bite.

We contained communism by using economic means and we'll do it with terrorists.

Just curious, why did the IRA stop shooting? Did Britain bomb Ireland to pieces?

The only reason why 'they' hate us is because we support Israel.

1. It only costs a couple of thousand dollars for tuition to go to schools like Olympic College, Evergreen State College, Bellevue Community College. and they're all open admissions. And then they could easily move on to get a four year degree at a school like City University where the tution is less than $7500 per year and is also an open admissions school. You don't need a bunch of money to get an education. You need counselors who will show kids how to go about it. Too many people have been fooled into thinking it ain't possible. All it takes is a little desire and some motivation/initiative.

Your sister may have studied rocks ... but that doesn't mean she is a rock After all, she did have to gain entrance to the university to qualify for the ROTC scholarship:

• Qualifying scores on Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) or American College Test (ACT) o SAT: 530 Critical Reading; 520 math o ACT: 22 English 22 math

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

1. It only costs a couple of thousand dollars for tuition to go to schools like Olympic College, Evergreen State College, Bellevue Community College. and they're all open admissions. And then they could easily move on to get a four year degree at a school like City University where the tution is less than $7500 per year and is also an open admissions school. You don't need a bunch of money to get an education. You need counselors who will show kids how to go about it. Too many people have been fooled into thinking it ain't possible. All it takes is a little desire and some motivation/initiative.

Your sister may have studied rocks ... but that doesn't mean she is a rock After all, she did have to gain entrance to the university to qualify for the ROTC scholarship:

• Qualifying scores on Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) or American College Test (ACT) o SAT: 530 Critical Reading; 520 math o ACT: 22 English 22 math

Without the JROTC>ROTC route there would have been no college for her unless she married first and used her husband's salary to pay for it. Even still the only reason why she chose that route was not for service to the country but as a way to see the world for free (in her own words, not mine) and to have a busy social calendar.

America supports Israel. Americans die in terrorist attacks. Britain supports Israel. Britain is the target of terrorists. Australia supports Israel. Australians get targeted by terrorists.

Hmmm....

Originally Posted by surasak

America supports Israel. Americans die in terrorist attacks. Britain supports Israel. Britain is the target of terrorists. Australia supports Israel. Australians get targeted by terrorists.

Hmmm....

Should we add Spain to the Cabal?

Originally Posted by attaboy

Originally Posted by surasak

America supports Israel. Americans die in terrorist attacks. Britain supports Israel. Britain is the target of terrorists. Australia supports Israel. Australians get targeted by terrorists.

Hmmm....

Should we add Spain to the Cabal?

Spain was part of the anti-Iraq cabal (ironically, along with the three mentioned above).

Ironically as well the group responsible for the Madrid attacks was in fact our ally against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Wonder what we did to piss them off?

Originally Posted by surasak

America supports Israel. Americans die in terrorist attacks. Britain supports Israel. Britain is the target of terrorists. Australia supports Israel. Australians get targeted by terrorists.

Hmmm....

You might believe that it's simply because we support Israel that makes the radical fundamentalist hate us. But that simply ignores the many ther variables such as many of the freedoms people in these countries have. These lunatics hate nearly everything western countries stand for.

That dog don't hunt.

People don't hate people for having freedom. People hate people when that nation's military occupies or that nation's government otherwise politically interferes with their own nation's internal affairs or supports their enemies.

If we didn't support Israel, if we didn't support the government of Saudi, if we didn't occupy certain places in the Middle East then there would be no excuse to oppose us.

The fact that the military occupies one of those oil rich nations doesn't help. The fact that the country occupying that nation and supporting the other is a religious enemy of that part of the world doesn't help. Factor in support of a nation that most of the world hates and you have a recipe for disaster.

It all boils down to overconsumption of oil. 5% of the world's population consuming 25% of the resources is what is the problem and the biggest threat in the world. If we spent the money we have to spend on keeping the oil flowing and instead focus on research and innovation we wouldn't have to bother with the problems of the Middle East. $500 billion wasted only to make them hate us even more. What a bargain!

What government are we at war with right now ? We're not at war with any of the Muslim governments that I recall. You want to give credibility to a minority group of radicals ... that's the dog that don't hunt pal.

There have been other threads that discussed exactly what I'm telling you dude. These radicals don't want more Western ideas imported to their countries ... and they want to reduce or rid their countries of many of the imported types of Western freedoms their people enjoy. They don't want democratic style governments, they don't want women running around half naked and doing things like voting.

These terrorists don't give a shit about oil except to use it as a tool to hold the rest of the world hostage. Go ahead and cheer for Iran to get nukes ... you'll be whining when they do. personally, I don't care if they do.

You think Reagan gave credibility to any of them when he pulled the Marines out of Lebanon?

Dude, the OIL is what gives them the funding. No oil, no strong governments, no money to research or buy weapons. The only reason why NK gets away with this is because China supports them and needs their resources (mostly iron ore).

Some day we're gonna complain about China's military power. Know where it will come from? American consumption. The Wal-Mart economy is the best thing to ever happen to make China militarilty strong.

It's a little off topic I suppose ... but are you on the side of isolationism then ? Do you think the American consumer should be forced to buy higher priced local products ?

One thing I will agree on is that Americans need to demand more from our government when it comes to our companies being able to set up and run companies in these other countries.

I don't think we should trade with our 'enemies.' What would have happened if Russia, Inc. had became like China, Inc? Think the Soviets wouldn't have used the extra cash to support their military?

China will have one thing Russia never had: capital and money. That is invaluable when it comes to building a military.

I don't know what to tell you dude. I'm all for getting the best product for the lowest price.

Every new vehicle I've ever bought (3) was a home field model ... NO MORE ... make a better product or I'll buy foreign made from now on.

I think many, if not most, of Americans would be thrilled to buy American made products if they were the best for the money. Sadly, most are not.