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    Surasak: perhaps you might edit you cut and paste "jobs" to just include the pertinent and salient aspects! Unless your intention is to smother us with bullshit.
    Sure there are aberrations from all religious groups who would cause harm.
    But as a rule christianity, judaism, hinduism, Buddhism, nudism and the majority of Islam don't make it a policy to inflict harm on innocent people. But the fanatical shia sect of Islam does! They have been been in conflict with their own neighbors for decades. They are now trying to spread the conflict into the west because western society hasn't yet really understood what it's all about.
    They are using the media to portray a western attack on all of Islam which is far from the truth.
    For now they have hijacked Islam and it is up to normal balanced muslim people to retake their religion from these fanatics.
    It also up to the rest of the world to begin to see the situation for what it is.
    The fanatical mullahs in Iran who have been gaining power for the past 25 years need to be seem for what they really are: Murderous and barbarous aberrations of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    The fanatical mullahs in Iran who have been gaining power for the past 25 years need to be seem for what they really are: Murderous and barbarous aberrations of humanity.
    Aha, so USA is fighting in the wrong country.. Can't be easy for seppos to distinguish between countries with so equal names.
    Or are you just helping paving the road for yet another invasion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    The fanatical mullahs in Iran who have been gaining power for the past 25 years need to be seem for what they really are: Murderous and barbarous aberrations of humanity.
    Aha, so USA is fighting in the wrong country.. Can't be easy for seppos to distinguish between countries with so equal names.
    Or are you just helping paving the road for yet another invasion ?
    More typical myopic equivocation of terrorism.

    The point being you fail to realize that jihadist terrorism knows no borders.
    Get out of your hate bush/hate america myopia a face the reality of what these fundamentalist shia muslims want.
    I shouldn't have to spell it out for you because they openly announce their intentions daily.
    Perhaps you need a hearing aid?

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    There are as many idiots intent on causing problems, quite a few claim to be muslim, but most muslims are peaceful and detest what is happening as much as everyone else. There are various factions of islam and before we start using blanket expressions more thought should be gone into this.

    Christians throughout history have done far worse than blow up a few planes in the name of Christ and God. At least those terrorists claiming to be muslims haven't yet eradicated entire races from the planet.

    Nowadays we use the excuse of capitalism to take control over other countries. Suggesting that 'muslims' haven't contributed to the progress of the human race is pathetic, insulting and ignorant.

    From the BBC: Malaysia is due to send an astronaut into space with the Russians next year. (Yes, he is a practising muslim.)

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    science in the West has many of its foundations in developments made by Muslim scientists, particularly in the area of mathematics, physics and chemistry.

    and: developments such as bringing Indian numerals to Europe and creating the first scientific map of the world in the 12th Century.

    Mr Earl, do your research before posting that muslims haven't achieved technological advances.
    The truth is out there, but then I'm stuck in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Earl
    But the fanatical shia sect of Islam does! They have been been in conflict with their own neighbors for decades. They are now trying to spread the conflict into the west because western society hasn't yet really understood what it's all about.
    I strongly disagree with you Earl.The ones who attacked America were all Wahabis from Saudi,the ones fighting in Iraq are Sunnis and I just hope that the Shias in Iraq wont start fighting cos it might be worse than vietnam.

    Give me one good reason Iran should be friendly with America??
    The Americans have always tried to fok things in Iran since the beginning.First they put their puppet Shah Reza in power and when that attemt failed to westernize Iran the Americans started helping Saddam when Iran was fighting against that fokwit,provided him Chemical weapons and he didn't hesitate to use them on the Iranians and the kurds,imposed economic and all types of sanctions on Iran,refers to Iran as an axis of evil.

    Is there any reason for Iran to love America??

    Are the countries that dont adapt weatern culture evil??
    Last edited by Mhz; 25-08-2006 at 10:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    But the fanatical shia sect of Islam does!
    As do fanatics of all colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDN View Post

    I wonder what the reasons were for all these hijackings - how many Christians hijacked for religious reasons, and how many Muslims for their religion?

    Gays and abortions? Are you allowed to be gay or have an abortion in Muslim-land?
    If you look most of the hijackings are for political reasons, IE, to run away from some problem or to try to get some prisoners released. Very few if any are religiously motivated. But the fact is that we don't label the hijacker or terorrist unless he or they are Muslim. Did we call the IRA Christian terrorists? "Catholic terrorists set off another bomb in London today...." Why is that? Why don't we label the other ones?

    As far as homosexuality and abortion is concerned if you live in America the Christians who have power don't want you to have an abortion or have homosexual relationships that have the same legal status as heterosexuals. It even results in the violence Christians use to drive their point home.

    Most Christians are not narrowminded hateful bigots and most Muslims are not ready to hijack planes or strap claymores onto themselves.

    Keep in mind, though, that no Muslim army on Earth and no terrorist group can compete with the world's most powerful Christian army: the military of the U.S. under the command of King George (well, Iraq has proven that to be wrong, but, in terms of mobilization, strength of weaponry, and financing the Muslims can't compete with the U.S.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    The fanatical mullahs in Iran who have been gaining power for the past 25 years need to be seem for what they really are: Murderous and barbarous aberrations of humanity.

    And how is that different from the leadership in the White House at this very moment? The only thing we have keeping us from being stuck with King George is the fact that the Constitution forbids him from running again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    science in the West has many of its foundations in developments made by Muslim scientists, particularly in the area of mathematics, physics and chemistry.
    I believe it was the Arabs who invented distillation of wine into spirits. Surely that ranks right up there with fire, the wheel and silicon implants......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    So how do explain why Moslems haven't contributed to the modern world?
    i'll break it down for you earl....

    oil = power

    iran and the rest of the ME have most of the remaining oil under their land.

    if they're allowed to keep it, iran's influence and prosperity will increase significantly and you will see muslim nations again making amazing technological contributions to the global society.

    like all aging and corrupt empires, the US doesn't want to disrupt the status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    So how do explain why Moslems haven't contributed to the modern world?
    i'll break it down for you earl....

    oil = power

    iran and the rest of the ME have most of the remaining oil under their land.

    if they're allowed to keep it, iran's influence and prosperity will increase significantly and you will see muslim nations again making amazing technological contributions to the global society.

    In secular Muslim nations, perhaps. Unfortunately, in places like Saudi Arabia and Iran, there will probably always be someone screaming "this is un-Islamic - stone/kill/stop/jail him" every time someones thinks outside the box. Calling someone "un-Islamic" is a powerful political tool, just like calling someone a "terrorist-sympathizer" or "liberal" is in the US.
    Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...

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    The only muslim country which seems to work is Malaysia. Their society is largely multicultural and seems quite progressive. Tolerance is the underlying aspect which makes it possible.
    But their great technological achievement of the twin petronas towers is largely by grace of the opportunities an Argentinean man found in the USA.

    Anyway the point is that the jihadism being spread by Iran and Syria won't fly in the long run because it is simply stupid.
    Isolationism in the information age won't last.

    I agree that to a certain degree oil=power but that isn't going to last.

    Technological breakthroughs that will allow use of other power sources are taking place in the west and in Japan.

    Jihadists are freaking dinosaurs and destined to become extinct.

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    Turkey is pretty good also.
    I love the place.

    i left only because i had to, but it's worth a long visit.

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    And what of the bombers and killers of abortion operators or even the Oklahoma bombings, they ALL went to prison because this is not excepted in progressive society. We all must NOT depend on religious leaders to show us the way. I cannot belive that the "good" mulahs cannot do more to stop the bad ones. Are you muslims still trying to say that the English or anyone else DESERVES to die because a few bad ones teach this hatred and your socalled MAJORITY of good muslims are INcapable of doing ANYTHING to stop it. HOW SAD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
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    Turkey is pretty good also.
    I love the place.

    i left only because i had to, but it's worth a long visit.
    I've never been there. A buddy of mine was almost murdered there about 25 years ago. Sort of chilled my interest.
    The Paul Theroux novel picked my interest some time ago.

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    Because the kind of people causing the trouble aren't the kind of people to listen to the good mullahs, preachers, or monks.

    Replace that bad mullah, preacher, or monk with typical gang leader street thug and you haven't changed much. The only thing religion does is make the martyr believe that his actions are just and will result in reward.

    You simply cannot logic, reason, or talk sense with someone willing to die for any cause.

    Look at the U.S. The bad Christians have plenty of power and the good ones really don't. That's just the way thugs and gangs operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak View Post
    Look at the U.S. The bad Christians have plenty of power and the good ones really don't. That's just the way thugs and gangs operate.
    this really is a fallacious analogy. There really isn't a culture of suicide bombers inside the christian religions.

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    No, instead they put on uniforms of the Marines, Army, and Navy and go bomb Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    I cannot belive that the "good" mulahs cannot do more to stop the bad ones.
    Good mullahs and bad mullahs? What are you on about? People who are bombing the shit out of the Westerners ain't mullahs. Is Osama a mullah? Was Zarqawi a mullah?

    Till date I know of one crazy mullah named "Mullah Umar". The fockwit was trained and sent to Afghanistan by the CIA to fight Russians back in 80s along with Bin Laden.

    Please explain the term "mullah".

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak View Post
    No, instead they put on uniforms of the Marines, Army, and Navy and go bomb Muslims.
    Your sister was in the Navy, right ? Is she a Christian then ? Stupid, multiple nick troll is what you are.

    I think you're a pussy.

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    Was his sister really in the US Navy SK? Maybe that's how he got into the US by using her as a guarantor for him. 55555555555

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    She only went into the Navy because ROTC was the only way she could get into college.

    Fact is she's been in about 10 or so years and hasn't been promoted. She's just too dumb to realize that they don't want her. Same for her Army husband. Now she pushes pencils and pens at a desk (last I heard). He can't get promoted because he gets motion sickness. What a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    ? Is she a Christian then ? Stupid, multiple nick troll is what you are.

    I think you're a pussy.
    An appeasment, islamofascist-loving pussy!

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    Just for the record Boon Mee, Storekeeper with his cut and pastes is arguing his cases at least ten times better than you with your one-liners.
    You must have been the big looser over in that other political forum..

    And Surasak is yet a tenfold better than SK because he is putting his own words and thinking into his posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Just for the record Boon Mee, Storekeeper with his cut and pastes is arguing his cases at least ten times better than you with your one-liners.
    You must have been the big looser over in that other political forum..

    And Surasak is yet a tenfold better than SK because he is putting his own words and thinking into his posts.
    Well, just for the record, lom, both you and sadsack are on the wrong side of history here with these appeasment, touchy-feelie "why don't we all get along" - type posts. My one-liners speak more truth than some long-winded sermon on how it should be instead of how it (real life) really works. Ivory tower pontificators are a dime a dozen, bud.
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