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Old 12-09-2008, 02:08 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Under military law I believe you have to be executed within 6 months or else it is viewed as a form of torture and the sentence is commuted.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:24 PM   #122 (permalink)
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I don't remember hearing about any middle aged housewives being strung up by cranes in the U.S. Do you have a link?
So, it's the crane that you find so offensive, is it?
I find the whole thing offensive.
Don't you?
I find all executions offensive. The Iranians execute people in public using a crane, other countries use different methods. I still think it is barbaric.

Don't you?
Yes, I do. What were we arguing about again?
At least we agree that all executions are barbaric.

Well done, Jethro, you are becoming a Mensch. Not bad for a goy.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:07 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Racist.
But I forgive you.
Here, have a song, might cheer you up.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:41 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Racist?

That proves that you really know nothing. Troll somewhere else, Jethro.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:56 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I don't remember hearing about any middle aged housewives being strung up by cranes in the U.S. Do you have a link?
So, it's the crane that you find so offensive, is it?
I find the whole thing offensive.
Don't you?
I find all executions offensive. The Iranians execute people in public using a crane, other countries use different methods. I still think it is barbaric.

Don't you?
Yes, I do. What were we arguing about again?
Dunno - Perhaps we can agree that only backward, barbaric countries with fanatical religious, or in the case of China, political, leaders still practice capital punishment?
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^ I know, there are many muslims in Denmark there eat pork and drink beer, great bunch of guys.
Alcohol is debated, but if they eat pork, I would say they are not Muslim, but just telling people that they are.
If I remember right, pork is only mentioned once in the Koran, whereas there are several references to the dangers of alcohol. Hence one could argue that pork is better than spirits.......

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There are 3 references to intoxicants I think
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Racist?

That proves that you really know nothing. Troll somewhere else, Jethro.
By using the word 'goy' you categorize me by race (or religion actually) Depending on the tone in mind when you wrote it it could be deemed insulting
just as the word jew or gwei lau could be insulting depending on the tone.
Perhaps you're not as smart as you think.
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I like the traditional idea of the dark eyed houris and ginger wine in paradise.
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:15 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Is it hard to convert on your deathbed?
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:34 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Racist?

That proves that you really know nothing. Troll somewhere else, Jethro.
By using the word 'goy' you categorize me by race (or religion actually) Depending on the tone in mind when you wrote it it could be deemed insulting
just as the word jew or gwei lau could be insulting depending on the tone.
Perhaps you're not as smart as you think.
Nice try, Trailer Park Boy . . . oh, religion, or in this case, language, does NOT denote race.

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goy - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Main Entry:goy Pronunciation: \ˈgȯi\ Function:noun Inflected Form(s):plural goy·im \ˈgȯi-əm\ also goysEtymology:Yiddish, from Hebrew gōy people, nation
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Goy Lit. nation. A non-Jew, that is, a member of one of the other nations. There is nothing inherently insulting about the term; the word "goy" is used in the Torah to describe Israel.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhh hhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put the mask back on, Jethro. For the love of God, put the mask back on!!!!


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Goy Lit. nation. A non-Jew, that is, a member of one of the other nations. There is nothing inherently insulting about the term; the word "goy" is used in the Torah to describe Israel.
You just made my case.
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The caring for orphans is another tradition which is commendable.
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Goy Lit. nation. A non-Jew, that is, a member of one of the other nations. There is nothing inherently insulting about the term; the word "goy" is used in the Torah to describe Israel.
You just made my case.
I called you a non-Jew? And that is deemed racist? Do you have any brains at all? can you differentiate between race and religion? Ah, you can't, can you? You just can't twist and turn out of it, mate.

Read what you quote, Jethro, or didn't your Trailer Park High do a good job with that?

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The caring for orphans is another tradition which is commendable.
Indeed, commendable.
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I like the traditional idea of the dark eyed houris and ginger wine in paradise.
Ginger wine can give you gas, however . . . but then if you've done the right thing it won't matter! Hmm, dark-eyed houris? That'll do nicely.
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Is it hard to convert on your deathbed?
A soul gained is a soul gained - I believe you can, and you don't even need to be circumcised!
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I called you a non-Jew? And that is deemed racist?
You are really showing your ignorance now - you, you non-coloured, non-Muslim, non-vegetarian non-American!

Take that!
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What a joke.
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You are really showing your ignorance now - you, you non-coloured, non-Muslim, non-vegetarian non-American! Take that!
Hey! Thems fightin' words! Oh, hang on - they are compliments. Umm, green on the way for you!

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What a joke.
Yes, you are . . . but then so is your mullet, trailer park boy.
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I think a Jewish person would say it is a word best avoided in modern times because it carries a historical tone of 'not like us' in a judgmental way. It can be used as slang. Saying 'not one of us' is not the same as saying gentile or non-Jew.

I think it's possible to find a whitewashed definition of the word to suit this argument. The thing to do is ask Jewish people what they think and listen for an honest answer.

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I think it's possible to find a whitewashed definition of the word to suit this argument. The thing to do is ask Jewish people what they think and listen for an honest answer.
True, attaboy. The definitions were the first two in the dictionary . . . and I grew up with lots of Jews. As I mentioned before, my Godmother, and the Godmother of my first daughter are Jewish . . . . and I'm a goy . . .



Egads, that means Trailer-Park-Boy and I have something in common.
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What's this I see, a can of worms....
lets open it.
JewishEncyclopedia.com - GENTILE:

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