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Old 12-08-2008, 12:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would a Abdallah have been given 3 years in Jail if he was a westerner?
Hassan Abdallah jailed for firing three shots to get respect


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August 12, 2008 12:34pm

A MAN who fired shots outside a nightclub to restore his honour after he and his girlfriend were ejected has been jailed for three years.
Hassan Abdallah, 25, threatened to “close the place down” before pulling a loaded gun outside The Viper Room and pointing it at security staff.

The weapon discharged three times as bouncers tackled Abdallah and finally disarmed him in November last year.

Abdallah and his model girlfriend Mylissa Piva were escorted from the Chapel St club after an altercation with another patron.

The County Court heard they went to a club co-owned by Grand Prix 'grid girl' Ms Piva, the Lotus Bar, where Abdallah took a pistol from a hidden compartment.

Judge Ross Howie said the former chef returned to The Viper Room to see management and “require them to show (him) respect”.

He said Abdallah later conceded it was a dangerous act and people could have been killed.

Abdallah pleaded guilty to reckless conduct endangering life and to being a prohibited person in possession of an unregistered firearm.

Judge Howie said Abdallah’s actions were either those of a dangerous thug or an immature man, but his time in prison since the incident had been a wake-up call that his lifestyle of nightclubbing and drugs had to stop.

Abdallah also pleaded guilty to blackmail after standing over a bankrupt businessman for $32,000 in 2005.

The judge sentenced him to a total of three years in jail, but ordered that he be eligible for parole after 18 months because his prospects for rehabilitation were good.

Hassan Abdallah jailed for firing three shots to get respect | Herald Sun
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Where did all this happen then ?

Give us a Clue
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Australia, sadly enough.
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Abdallah also pleaded guilty to blackmail after standing over a bankrupt businessman for $32,000 in 2005.
What does this mean?
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Naught to do with this case...
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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In answer to the originalo question I would say yes, why not. pulling a weapon in a nightlub.
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Second felony. Needlessly endangered others. Sure.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The County Court heard they went to a club co-owned by Grand Prix 'grid girl' Ms Piva, the Lotus Bar, where Abdallah took a pistol from a hidden compartment.



Is "grid girl" the modern equivalent of what was called a "pit pony" when I was track racing or later "the office bike" i.e anyone can gt a ride!!!

As an aside, and on a similar theme, I heard a new (to me) definition the other day - the difference between a Whore and a Bitch is -- a whore lets anyone f*ck her and a bitch lets anyone f*ck her except you!
It was a new one to me and certainly made me smile !
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sounds like he got an OK deal to me, eligible for parole after 18 months. Sounds like he's got form as well. Dont think anyone else would be treated any different.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Reckon he got off fairly lightly at the charge stage. He could have been facing something nastier "attempted murder".
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He waved the gun around outside the nightclub....

It did not go off until the bouncers wrestled him to the ground.

I doubt John of Dandenong would have got more than a suspended sentence for same offence...
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Would a Abdallah have been given 3 years in Jail if he was a westerner?
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I cannot speak for Australian laws but in my state in the US.

It's mandatory minimum.

Each person you point a gun at is a 3 year sentence + 1 for firearm enhancement charge.

In my hometown a neighbor had an argument over a fence or something.

He point a handgun at two people at the same time, and threatened them.

He got a sentence of 3 years + 3 years + 1 year for a total of 7 years in prison.


In my state a mandatory minimum.
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I missed in the artical where it said Hassan Abdallah was not a westerner?


Edit in:
He could be a distant relative to Barack Hussein for all we know.
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He got a sentence of 3 years + 3 years + 1 year for a total of 7 years in prison.
You make the enforcement of laws sound like your distribution of Vitamin pills during a night out of fun and drinking,..Shit.
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In the UK he would've got a similar sentence I reckon.
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The judge sentenced him to a total of three years in jail, but ordered that he be eligible for parole after 18 months because his prospects for rehabilitation were good.
How does the judge work that one out then?
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He waved the gun around outside the nightclub....

It did not go off until the bouncers wrestled him to the ground.

I doubt John of Dandenong would have got more than a suspended sentence for same offence...
What are the gun laws there?

Unless I'm very much mistaken, anyone would have got the same conviction & sentence - or worse. Waving a gun around & then firing it (whether accidentally or not) is not exactly a community minded civic act.
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Begs the question, should he be let off just because his name is abdallah? I bet he said: "I don't care how obnoxious I am, you can't insult me, I'm a muslim and will call a jihad on your ass."
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^ Where does it say he is a Muslim?
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