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Bugs · 25-07-2008, 08:31 AM

WTF? Lots of crap spewed out time and again about how everyone should shut their traps about politics, just hold hands, sing kumbaya, and watch the athletes do their thing - caus' the Olympics is all about sports don't ya' know.

Now the IOC tells Iraq to stuff it - don't bother sending your athletes to Beijing. Why? - Because of a political tiff between the Iraqies and the IOC, so much for the Olympics having nothing to do with politics. I guess that bit about politics don't matter only holds true for the 1.3 billion pound gorilla in the room?

The Associated Press: Iraq banned from Beijing Olympics amid feud

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Iraq banned from Beijing Olympics amid feud

Just two weeks before the start of the Olympics, Iraq was told Thursday it's not welcome in Beijing because of a political feud in Baghdad that angered the games' guardians and exiled a country that arrived to a roaring ovation at the opening ceremony four years ago.

aging one · 25-07-2008, 08:45 AM

It is pure and utter bullshit to not allow these Iraqi athletes to compete. They have been training with shit for facilities and equipment the last 4 years, and now to deny them? Fcuk off.

Milkman · 25-07-2008, 09:37 AM

It looks like there's more to this story. Iraq may have royally screwed this up. Replacing a committee in May, 2.5 months before the games. Not going to meet to clear up the matter. Not meeting deadlines.

It sounds like the Iraqi government messed this up. We should see if other countries did these things. I doubt it. No other nation has been disqualified that I know of.

Why are you guys complaining?

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Iraq banned from Summer Olympics

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A few months ago, it seemed liked nothing could stop Iraqi sprinter Dana Hussain from representing her country in the upcoming Summer Olympics.

Iraqi sprinter Dana Hussain was devastated to learn she could not participate in the Beijing Summer Olympics.

Then, the International Olympic Committee banned Iraq from competing because of what it says is the government's political interference in sports.
Hussain cried for hours after hearing the news, which arrived in the form of a letter to Iraqi officials.

"She hasn't stopped. It's like finding out that a close relative has died," said her coach, Yousif Abdul Rahman.

Abdul Rahman attempted to console Hussain by assuring her that she could compete in the 2012 Olympics.

Watch Hussain react to the news »
"In this horrible situation," she said, "who can say I'll even be alive in 2012?"
CNN received a copy of the letter sent to Jassim Mohammed Jaffer, Iraqi minister of youth and sports, and Ali Mohsen Ismail, acting secretary general of the Iraqi general secretariat of the Council of Ministers.

"We deeply regret this outcome, which severely harms the Iraqi Olympic and Sports Movement and the Iraqi athletes, but which is unfortunately imposed by the circumstances," said the letter, signed by two IOC officials.

Watch an official explain the decision »
The move stems from an Iraqi government decision in May to suspend the nation's Olympic Committee and form a temporary committee to handle its duties.
The Iraqi government thought the committee had not been operating properly and as a result undermined the sporting movement there.
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The government said the original committee held meetings without quorums and had officials serving in one-year posts for more than five years. Many of the officials also lived outside Iraq, the government said. iReport.com: See a cartoonist's take on the decision

Emmanuelle Moreau, a spokeswoman for the International Olympic Committee, said it suspended Iraq's national Olympic Committee in June after the government removed elected officials and put in people the IOC didn't recognize.
She said the IOC proposed to the Iraqi government that officials come to the organization's headquarters in Lausanne, Switzerland, "to discuss possible solutions."

But she said they didn't respond. "We're extremely disappointed with the situation. The athletes have been ill-served by the government in Iraq," she said.

Moreau said Iraq missed a Wednesday deadline for the entry of athletes to compete in archery, judo, rowing and weightlifting.

She said there is a chance that track and field athletes could compete if the original committee is reinstated. The deadline for the track team to register is at the end of the month. The Games begin August 8.

A former official from the disbanded Iraq Olympic Committee said the IOC's decision was justified because the government interfered with the national committee by suspending it.

The former official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

He said he believed that the government suspended the committee out of "jealousy."

The national committee was making great strides, and the government, namely the Ministry of Youth and Sports, wanted control of it, he said.

The seven Iraqi athletes who were to travel to China for the Games' start in August are disappointed by the decision, officials said. They include an archer, a weightlifter, a judoka, two rowers and two sprinters, one of whom is Dana Hussain.

Her coach called the decision unfair and said he blames "everyone": the Iraqi government and the Iraqi and International Olympic committees.
In the end, Abdul Rahman said, the athletes are paying the price.

"It's a shame after all the efforts, ambitions, risks and dangers," he said.
"I wish from the bottom of my heart they would reconsider this unjust decision for the sake of the athletes."

Link: Iraq banned from Summer Olympics - CNN.com

Bugs · 25-07-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkman

Why are you guys complaining?

Because the athletes are being screwed by the IOC. The IOC has cried and cried about keeping the politics of China out of the games, yet they are farking the athletes of Iraq because of politics.

This whole thing got started because the current government in Iraq replaced people on the Iraq Olympic committee. Seems any sovereign nation should have the right to have who ever they want to sit on their own Olympic committee. But because the IOC felt the replacement of members was because of political corruption they cried foul.

Fark the IOC, they can not have it both ways. Either politics has something to do with the games or it does not. And to boo-hoo any mention of the politics of China on one hand while farkn’ the athletes of Iraq because of what the IOC deems as political corruption in Iraq wrong, wrong, wrong.

sabang · 25-07-2008, 11:38 AM

It's not the outcome I would have wanted, but ferk 'em. Iraq screwed it up, royally. The IOC has left the door open for them to redeem themselves, but I doubt they will.

As part of the Iraqi governments purge of Sunni's, it is they that introduced politics to the whole process, by unilaterally dismissing the Iraqi IOC. Just because the country is under US military occupation changes nothing- although I agree it is a bit of a PR blow. Perhaps the US should have stepped in sooner. Or perhaps they attempted to, but were rebuffed by the Iraqi's.

Milkman · 25-07-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugs

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Originally Posted by Milkman

Why are you guys complaining?

Because the athletes are being screwed by the IOC. The IOC has cried and cried about keeping the politics of China out of the games, yet they are farking the athletes of Iraq because of politics.

How is politics involved?

I don't see it.

Bugs · 25-07-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkman

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Originally Posted by Bugs

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Originally Posted by Milkman

Why are you guys complaining?

Because the athletes are being screwed by the IOC. The IOC has cried and cried about keeping the politics of China out of the games, yet they are farking the athletes of Iraq because of politics.

How is politics involved?

I don't see it.

The whole reason the IOC got bent in the first place is because of politics.

From the article in the OP:

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The IOC has called the move unacceptable government interference.

From the cartoon in the link in your post:

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Double Standards:
The Olympic Committee is banning Iraq from the 2008 Games for political corruption.

We (IOC) are pleased that the Games will open in politically corrupt China.

Bugs · 25-07-2008, 04:24 PM

I certainly understand why the IOC is bent, but I don’t think they should punish the athletes. Regardless of who is on the Iraqi Olympic committee it won’t change who or what event Iraq competes in the ’08 games. The only thing going on now is the IOC flexing some muscle and telling a country that is attempting to renew itself that they have to mind their p’s and q’s if they want to compete.

Hell, when Sad-man was in charge of Iraq they would physically punish athletes. But I guess that is not against IOC rules?

Quotes from Mr. Al-Hili -

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“He (Sad-man) had some torture chambers in Iraq where sportsmen were actually mistreated. They were beaten up.”

“if they lose for example a soccer match, then I don’t see anyone interfering in their decisions. Why is this happening now?”

IOC stands firm against Iraq's 'political interference' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Boon Mee · 03-08-2008, 04:16 AM

It always about Politics...jeeeze...

Texpat · 03-08-2008, 03:40 PM

Hasn't the ruling been overturned and the Iraqis are going again?

Much ado about nothing.

Bugs · 03-08-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Texpat

Hasn't the ruling been overturned and the Iraqis are going again?

Much ado about nothing.

The ruling was not overturned.

The government of Iraq agreed to restore their old National Olympic Committee (NOC), and to hold elections for a new committee to be held before the end of November ’08.

Texpat · 03-08-2008, 04:06 PM

But the Iraqi athletes will compete, yes?

Bugs · 03-08-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Texpat

But the Iraqi athletes will compete, yes?

Some of them.

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