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Old 21-07-2008, 09:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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US Lawyer Representing Gitmo Detainees Drops his Pants at Press Conference......



Sanaa, Yemen: US lawyer David Remes, who represents 16 Yemeni prisoners held at Guantánamo Bay, takes his trousers off during a press conference. He was demonstrating the mistreatment suffered by his clients.



Does this guy have a mother?
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Old 21-07-2008, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well I hope one of the very first things Obama or (maybe) Mcclain does as President is to shut Gitmo down. Dumb idea in the first place.
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Old 21-07-2008, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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is this really worthy of an issues thread.

looks like another right wing troll to me.

have they ever managed to get a confession legally?


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The Bush administration has announced its intention to try six alleged al Qaeda members at Guantánamo under the Military Commissions Act. That Act forbids the admission of evidence extracted by torture, although it permits evidence obtained by cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment if it was secured before December 30, 2005. Thus, the administration would be forbidden from relying on evidence obtained by waterboarding, if waterboarding constitutes torture.

That's one reason Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to admit waterboarding is torture. The other is that torture is considered a war crime under the U.S. War Crimes Act. Mukasey would be calling Dick Cheney a war criminal if the former admitted waterboarding is torture. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, has said on National Public Radio that the policies that led to the torture and abuse of prisoners emanated from the Vice President's office.

The federal government is working overtime to try and clean up the legal mess made by the use of illegal interrogation methods. In a thinly-veiled attempt to sanitize the Guantánamo trials, the Department of Justice and the Pentagon instituted an extensive program to re-interview the prisoners who have undergone abusive interrogations, this time with "clean teams." For example, if a prisoner implicated one of the defendants during an interrogation using waterboarding, the government will now re-interrogate that prisoner without waterboarding and get the same information. Then they will say the information was secured humanely. This attempt to wipe the slate clean is a farce and a sham.
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Old 21-07-2008, 10:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This attempt to wipe the slate clean is a farce and a sham.
exactly. like playing semantics, this sort of thing just sullies what good name the US ever had.
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Old 21-07-2008, 11:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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is this really worthy of an issues thread.
Getting a lot of mileage on this I see. Know you have the link so let's see it again!
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Old 21-07-2008, 11:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I linked to it in the other thread.


some people are just sooo lay.
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Old 23-07-2008, 01:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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is this really worthy of an issues thread.

looks like another right wing troll to me.

have they ever managed to get a confession legally?
(A bit of a troll there too )

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The Bush administration has announced its intention to try six alleged al Qaeda members at Guantánamo under the Military Commissions Act. That Act forbids the admission of evidence extracted by torture, although it permits evidence obtained by cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment if it was secured before December 30, 2005. Thus, the administration would be forbidden from relying on evidence obtained by waterboarding, if waterboarding constitutes torture.

That's one reason Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to admit waterboarding is torture. The other is that torture is considered a war crime under the U.S. War Crimes Act. Mukasey would be calling Dick Cheney a war criminal if the former admitted waterboarding is torture. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, has said on National Public Radio that the policies that led to the torture and abuse of prisoners emanated from the Vice President's office.

The federal government is working overtime to try and clean up the legal mess made by the use of illegal interrogation methods. In a thinly-veiled attempt to sanitize the Guantánamo trials, the Department of Justice and the Pentagon instituted an extensive program to re-interview the prisoners who have undergone abusive interrogations, this time with "clean teams." For example, if a prisoner implicated one of the defendants during an interrogation using waterboarding, the government will now re-interrogate that prisoner without waterboarding and get the same information. Then they will say the information was secured humanely. This attempt to wipe the slate clean is a farce and a sham.
Three individuals were water boardered. That's it three. Just so people are clear. And yes, the article indirectly says, though it doesn't want to admit, that the US courts are sorting things out. The system works. I don't consider the use of the word "sanitize" unbiased. Why did the storyteller use it? It casts doubts on his objective.

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This attempt to wipe the slate clean is a farce and a sham.
Oh dear, it's an editorial. All that 'honest' reporting down the drain.
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Old 23-07-2008, 01:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 23-07-2008, 02:01 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I thought so too, but wasn't going to say anything.
But now that you've mentioned it ...



David, David, David. If you're going to be a drama queen, at least put on some clean panties!
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