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Old 18-07-2008, 05:14 PM   #121 (permalink)
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you're a tiresome troll Butterbutt.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:15 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Get a life. There is a whole world out there that has nothing to do with being angry at the USA, go out and see some of it. You might like some of it.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Come on Anty, it's been challenged a thousand times. Dubya is still in charge and the terrorists are still locked safely away. If the policy of having a prison on Cuba, the oldest overseas US base, was so horribly misguided they would have shut it down years ago. The fact is you're wrong and you can't seem to come to terms with that. You are the minority. You are the dissenting voice. I seem to be the only one listening to you. It's sheer entertainment.

You don't have to thank us. Omar is sleeping soundly in his cage.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:21 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Get a life. There is a whole world out there that has nothing to do with being angry at the USA, go out and see some of it. You might like some of it.
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This repeated refusal to deal with or confront these criticisms and simply shouting them down as "anti-American" is a cop-out and, frankly, only serves to show that you cannot rationally justify nor argue to the contrary any of the points.

It's a distinct pattern amongst many of the American posters on here that they are completely disingenuous when it comes to this type of thing. Valid points are ignored, the people making them attacked, and the posts shifted repeatedly.

Most of the other nations represented here make a national sport of crticising their governments. Going by the example on here Americans simply cannot admit that they're wrong and will go to great lengths in order to avoid doing so. It's intellectual dishonesty at its nadir.
Thanks for demonstrating my points for me so superbly; couldn't have found a better example if I'd tried.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:27 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Come on Anty, it's been challenged a thousand times. Dubya is still in charge and the terrorists are still locked safely away. If the policy of having a prison on Cuba, the oldest overseas US base, was so horribly misguided they would have shut it down years ago. The fact is you're wrong and you can't seem to come to terms with that. You are the minority. You are the dissenting voice. I seem to be the only one listening to you. It's sheer entertainment.

You don't have to thank us. Omar is sleeping soundly in his cage.
What a bizzare rationale; 'Gitmo's still operating so therefore it must be ok'. You can extend that to it's logical conclusion and come up with all sorts of werid and wonderful outcomes. Of course you also seem to have forgotten that they are discussing shutting down Gitmo.

Fact of the matter is that it has been and remains the subject of International condemnation, Tex. Ignoring that neither justifies nor excuses it.

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This is where you're consistently wrong. What terrorists? How many of the current Gitmo inmates have been charged and found guilty of terrorism or terrorist related activities? Am I also to believe that they are guilty purely by reason of their being there in the first place? Well to prempt that argument you'll have to reconcile that with the fact that inmates have been released from there after having been held for years and facing no charges.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:47 PM   #126 (permalink)
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The fact is you're wrong and you can't seem to come to terms with that. You are the minority. You are the dissenting voice. I seem to be the only one listening to you.
Translation: I surrender
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:54 PM   #127 (permalink)
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This whole debate has been going around in circles for many months on another thread. Positions, both in America and elsewhere vary widely. Legal experts disagree.

However, it is interesting to note that:

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - In a victory for the Bush administration, a US judge ruled Thursday that the first Guantanamo prison war crimes trial, against Osama bin Laden's former driver, can go ahead as scheduled next week. Hamdan, 37, is the first "enemy combatant" from the US "war on terror" to face a military tribunal since the Guantanamo prison camp was opened in late 2001.
Judge OKs first Guantanamo war crimes trial - Yahoo! News

Anybody want to argue that Bin Laden's driver shouldn't go on trial? When he was arrested, he had a couple of surface to air missles in the boot.

I agree he and others had to wait much too long for trial, and that aspect I think is what deserves a lot of scrutiny right now.
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:00 PM   #128 (permalink)
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What other nation on the planet would have exhibited such benevolence as to resist killing him outright, on the spot?

probably none.

What a remarkable act of kindness.
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:12 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Its not much fun torturing a corpse Tex
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:13 PM   #130 (permalink)
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their confusing their khadr's with their Hameds again.
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^All SAME SAME
The saddest bit is you appear to be saying this without the slightest embarrassment or hint of shame...

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Dunno - Fox News is perhaps the most watched news station in the world.
That does not make it a reliable source. The whole world once 'knew' that the Earth was flat...
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:13 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Anybody want to argue that Bin Laden's driver shouldn't go on trial? When he was arrested, he had a couple of surface to air missles in the boot.
Then he belongs to an International Tribunal, but since the war is illegal anyhow, we are in a judicial void for prosecuting him,

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What other nation on the planet would have exhibited such benevolence as to resist killing him outright, on the spot?
Yes, most of the civilized countries around the world, unless you are comparing yourself to the likes of Syria, Israel, Iran, and most of Africa
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:16 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Grow up. Travel a little. Visit the US before spouting this crap.
I have.

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A-J is not available, which is an interesting fact in itself. There was recently one cable station on the east coast that has defied FCC and has broadcasted AJ. Not sure where that stands.
Interesting fact?

Damning fact, IMO.
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Then he belongs to an International Tribunal, but since the war is illegal anyhow, we are in a judicial void for prosecuting him,
BF, I didn't realize you were a qualified international attorney experienced in multi-national jurisdictional disputes and International conflicts of Laws.
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Interesting fact? Damning fact, IMO.
I agree entirely. It's a damn shame and a black mark on the world's bastion of free speech. This is truly a sad fact.
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BF, I didn't realize you were a qualified international attorney experienced in multi-national jurisdictional disputes and International conflicts of Laws.
I don't see where he claimed any of this, have you got a link?
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BF, I didn't realize you were a qualified international attorney experienced in multi-national jurisdictional disputes and International conflicts of Laws.
well believe or not, I went through a few international law classes, IN THE US, and the first thing we were taught was the chain of priority of legal authorities,

back to you chief,
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Flash, chill a little. It was a joke, I know BF personally. But, I still meant the slam....
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working on the USS Okinawa, you really don't run into many Americans only 20,000 or so.
erm, hardly representative of the average yank.
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Why does it matter where I live Flash? I spent all but a few years of my life outside the US. Who cares where I happen to hang my hat ........................ 53 00 N, 8 00 W (mid, damn that was too easy)
sorry I missed this edit you did before, what was too easy?
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