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| Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006
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| ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn
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which side does the bulk of the name calling come from? it's sheer frustration, nothing more. | |
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| nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya
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| Arguments are made, however they are thrown out because they are not agreed upon. Then name calling comes in, more from the Anti Gitmo faction, which then starts the pro Gitmo faction. Simply a pissing match nothing more nothing less. (rather boring) |
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If you don't follow the party line e.g. all Perps are really the victims, you get labeled a fascist or worse... | |
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| | #289 (permalink) | |
| Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006
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It's one thing to hold a different opinion and proffer a rationale for it, quite another to simply start with childish name-calling. The latter is merely an example of someone having already made up their mind and only listening to things that reinforce it: 'Intelligence is being able to construct a reasoned argument. True intelligence is being able to recognise merit in the arguments of those that hold a different opinion than you' What it all boils down to is this - if you are unwilling or unable to back-up your opinions with logic and reasoning then you shouldn't be offering them in Issues in the first place. Go start a soap-box thread in the Lounge and simply state/shout out what you want to say instead. | |
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| ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn
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![]() also, if you don't tell me who you are in the real world and I actually know you, i shall red you every day. that's gotta scare you. | |
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| Fag an bealac! Last Online: 13-11-2008 08:06 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 53 00 N, 8 00 W
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It is blatantly obvious that there are inmates from Guantanamo Bay that are being mistreated, stating this is not an attack on all things American. If the Irish Government were guilty of these wrong doings I would have no problems with someone pointing that out for me, Nothing wrong with being proud of where you are from but you don't have to agree with all your government's decisions. You have no power to decide where you are born. You have the freedom to form your own opinions and be subjective, that may be the only Liberty an American has left these days
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| | #292 (permalink) | |
| Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006
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Some Americans seem to hold the view that it's somehow 'unpatriotic' or 'un-American' to do so. Which is doubly odd when you consider that their entire nation was founded on the principle of questioning authority. The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves. | |
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| nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya
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| Exactly Flash - there is plenty of evidence to say that GITMO detainee(s) are treated well to counter arguments that they aren't being treated well. Fair enough if you take one side or the other - you might not agree with that particular view point, but there is validation to one another's argument. The truth lies somewhere in between. |
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| ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn
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![]() it is accepted that at camp x-ray they weren't allowed to stand up and got 5 minutes exercise a day.... bit harsh given their not guilty yet status. | |
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| Fag an bealac! Last Online: 13-11-2008 08:06 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 53 00 N, 8 00 W
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| Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006
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Silly Boon Meesque comments about it being a 5-star hotel? | |
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| Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006
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(although to be fair that's not to suggest it's what Brit does, don't think I've seen him indulge before) | ||
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