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machangezi

Anyway.... When America started bombing Afghanistan in 2001, all the Taleban leaders and fighters ran for shelter in the mountains. They didn't fear the American bombing but the Northern Alliance ( a member of the coalition of the willing) who were mainly Hazara, Tajik and Uzbek minorties. These minorities had been brutally oppressed by the Taleban regime and with the American Aerial support they seized whole of Afghanistan with-in 2 weeks. A task which they couldn't collectively accomplish before. When they got out of the Northern areas of Afghanistan they killed and detained any person who was a Pashtoon, wearing a turban, with a long beard for the bounty being offered for capturing a Taleb alive. Now many of them were foreigners who just got inside Afghanistan, some were there just to help the Taleban against the Americans while some just went their to get their families out and many other reasons.

Watch this documentary it is a bit long but worth watching:

road to guantanamo - Google Video

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Butterfly

What other opinions would that be, Tex ? that torture and killing innocent is the way to go

Under Nazi Germany, would you have followed orders as a service man ? even if it meant killing women and children ? don't answer, we already know yours.

machangezi

He sure gets his jollies to it. Did you miss his confession??

And you claim that Americans are tolerant.

Texpat

In the realm of base self sufficiency, I like our comparitive chances.

We import a lof of plasmas and cars, but could adjust without. We have some oil, not enough, but some. Those countries that export oil import a lot of food.

Every country is interdependent today. How would yours fare if the borders around the globe were sealed?

Some underdeveloped countries like Myanmar or Laos, might notice little change. I like our comparative chances. And we've got the means to protect it.

machangezi

Any body knows a good psychiatrist??

Butterfly

Say who ? you ?

get real, tex, you (collective) would't survive one day, and everybody would be moaning and crying for their little things. Not anyone is a tough service man who has retired in Thailand and lives on water and rice like you and Rambo4 do.

machangezi

Try saying that to the hippies and Hippos back home Sailor boy! I am sure they will comply and you a lil bit.

Can the residents of New York survive with out eight hours of electricity everyday?? Many people try to relate to the people living in the under-developed parts of the world especially Americans but you guys don't have the slightest idea of how life is in those parts of the world. Ask those who live their.

thegent

Circle the waggons and get them Winchesters out, eh Tex?

Another insight from the redneck, homeboy mentality that underpins the blunt instrument known as American foreign policy.

God love 'em, no one else could.

Texpat

Texpat: pronoun
Macha:

Butterfly

America is so obsessed with materialism, that one day without electricity or the usual shopping experience buying new toys, would bring riots and shutdown the government in a matter of hours,

everyone would be in the streets, screaming and fighting

Accidental Ajarn

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Wow, What a well thought-out and logical argument.

thegent

Oh, so you want a better argument?

How about Louisiana?

We in Britain actually clubbed together and sent some aid, as I recall.


( This is just so easy, like shooting fish in the barrel )

Accidental Ajarn

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WTF?

thegent

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Slow witted, perchance?

machangezi

Keep dancing......

Accidental Ajarn

So something in Lousiana caused the The US Government to detain prisoners in Gitmo?

Strange reasoning, but I getting to see a pattern.

thegent

Er, the argument has moved on. Indeed, you attempted to contribute to the new twist in response to Butterfly's comment above so I had assumed you must have noticed. My subsequent post re. Louisiana was in response to yours. Rather clever and adroit, I thought, but not too much that you would have missed the point.

Unfortunately, I was perhaps being a little charitable.

Boon Mee

Easy boys, that there Euro-trash simply winding y'all up...

AntRobertson

Can you even spell "ironic"? What about "hypocrite".

There's absolutely no problem with your having an opinion, Tex. Especially contrary ones. This is a discussion forum, so actually more the better. What you consistently miss in all your defensiveness however is that to arrive at a conclusion you must at least have valid reasoning based upon objective fact.

Norton's a good example of this. There are several things that I've disagreed with him on but not once have I been able to fault his rationale. It makes for interesting debate. You rarely give an opinion much less a rationale; you simply seek to shout others down; call them names; and ignore facts that are inconsistent with what you claim. You are your own worst enemy in this regard yet you continually blame others.

You're not a victim of persecution here Tex.

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