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Old 16-07-2008, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Another word for black?
If only we could rename the colour black incidents like this wouldn't occur.
Some peoples oversensitivity gets on my nerves.
(As does the fact that my firefox spellchecker tells me that the word colour is spelt wrong)
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Jonah Goldberg: The black hole of politically correct stupidity

By JONAH GOLDBERG

Monday, Jul. 14, 2008
At a recent meeting of city officials in Dallas County, Texas, a small racial brouhaha broke out. County commissioners were hashing out difficulties with the way the central collections office handles traffic tickets. Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield found himself guilty of talking while white. He observed that the bureaucracy "has become a black hole" for lost paperwork.

Fellow Commissioner John Wiley Price took great offense, shouting, "Excuse me!" That office, the black commissioner explained, has become a "white hole."
Seizing on the outrage, Judge Thomas Jones demanded that Mayfield apologize for the "racially insensitive analogy," in the words of the Dallas Morning News' City Hall Blog.
Houston Chronicle science blogger Eric Berger notes that everyone should be "very glad that the central collections office has not become a white hole, a theoretical object that ejects matter from beyond its event horizon, rather than sucking it in. It wouldn't be fun for Dallas to find itself so near a quasar."
Maybe so, but speaking metaphorically, if it were a white hole, that might suggest central collections was actually doing its job, ejecting paperwork in a timely fashion.
Call me nostalgic, but there was a time when this sort of stupidity actually generated controversy. Remember the Washington, D.C., official who used the word "niggardly" correctly in a sentence only to lose his job? That at least generated debate.
But these days, stories like this vomit forth daily and, for the most part, we roll our eyes, chuckle a bit and shrug them off.
Obviously, there's something to be said for ignoring the childish grievance-peddling that motivates so much of this nonsense. But the simple fact is that ignoring political correctness has done remarkably little to combat it. Meanwhile, people who make a big deal about it are often cast as the disgruntled obsessive ones.
The only people allowed to take political correctness seriously are the writers for "South Park," "Family Guy," "The Simpsons" and the like. Of course, they take it seriously because it's their bread and butter to mock the absurd pieties of daily life. But nearly everywhere else, the rule of thumb is that we should either defer to this stuff or quietly ignore it.
Now, I don't want to paint with too broad a brush. There is stuff that gets labeled political correctness that is entirely defensible. Because of the erosion of traditional authority that has marked the last half-century, for good and ill, society has been forced to recreate what defines good manners largely from scratch. Women, blacks and other historically marginalized groups have finally and deservedly gained an equal place in society. Treating fellow citizens with respect and dignity shouldn't be lumped in with the more radical agenda that also exploits political correctness.
For example, ditching the word "colored" from the vocabulary when it comes to describing blacks might have been seen as political correctness by many in the 1960s (though the phrase wasn't widely used), but that in no way means it wasn't the right thing to do. Or consider the idiots who shouted "iron my shirt" at Hillary Clinton (assuming it wasn't staged to help Clinton burnish her victim status). That's not bravely fighting political correctness. It's just rude and stupid.
But there's a separate agenda that parasitically clings to the more defensible aim of crafting new good manners. The left uses Western society's admirable desire not to offend to bludgeon competing ideas and arguments. Inconvenient facts are ridiculed as "insensitive." Refusal to go along with the multicultural agenda, for example, is cast as a sign of backwardness and bigotry. We're told we must have a frank conversation about race, but when conservatives take up the challenge, they are immediately demonized for the insensitivity of their honesty.
One of my favorite recent examples is when Newt Gingrich argued last year that bilingualism makes it more difficult for Hispanics to learn English, which has the unfortunate result of leaving some Latinos trapped in the "ghetto." He was immediately denounced by the usual suspects and forced to issue an apology, which he promptly did.
In Britain, the National Children's Bureau advised that day-care centers treat aversion to unfamiliar foreign food by children as "racist." It was also reported that two children were punished for their bigoted refusal to kneel and pray to Allah in a religion class.
This strikes me as something beyond mere tolerance. This is will-to-power masquerading as tolerance. This sort of thing needs to be resisted, because there is no end to where thinking like this can lead. Indeed, if it doesn't cause too much offense, one could even say it's a black hole.
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Joan, maybe we should "black-ball" Jonah?
- Chris, Salem
Goldberg will allow his traditional white world to become just toward the peoples it has disenfranchised for hundreds of years, but only if it does not stir one jet black hair on his baby-faced head in the process. And so he rakes in dough yakking about it. All I see is a neocon bigot.
- Joan Cotton, Amherst
How can a Board of Commissioners, tasked with governing a county and a judge tasked with making legal decisions be so stupid? The comment has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with an accurate analogy via a reference to astronomy. Had these people even read a weekly magazine on occasion, they would likely have learned about "black holes". They have got to get a life outside of Dallas County.
- Bill, Durham
Shorter Jonah Goldberg: "Yeah racism is bad and all, and we need to stop saying offensive stuff. However, about once a year, there's an instance where PC goes too far. Therefore, liberals are hateful and wrong. Now pay me my syndication money UL!!!"
- Breyer S., Manchester, NH
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Old 16-07-2008, 03:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2 children in Britain refusing to kneel to pray to Allah? Racist? This is racist?

If true, bizarre.

A black hole is a black hole scientifically, and it is used as a metaphor.

As for praying to Allah, Allah is scum, and I won't pray for him. Sorry.
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Old 16-07-2008, 03:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I will have to agree with Milky on this one..
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A black hole is a black hole scientifically, and it is used as a metaphor.
Yes, but if we renamed the colour black people would stop getting upset at references to things that are coloured black.
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black
African-Americans. The opposite of nigger.

Example of people who are/were black: Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, Mohamed Ali, Barrack Obama, Condi Rice, the black men and women out there who are working, surviving and contributing to society like any other citizen, and the black men who are putting their lives on the line in Iraq

Nigger are a different category. Niggers are African-Americans who are drug dealers, murderers, gang bangers, think they should get special treatment because of what some cowboys did over a century ago, NAACP, Jesse Jackson (he does nothing good for his race. he just runs his mouth), Ray Nagin.
Blacks and niggers are two different people
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Blacks and niggers are two different people
Confused!
Well thats putting it in black and white?
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What about PINK ?
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^ might give pigs a bad name
can't have that
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Old 16-07-2008, 04:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you renamed black to say quagmire....then people would just get upset at the word quagmire.....for example......'you quagmire son of a bitch'
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I always thought that black wasn't really a colour
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momo ? Nobody would care if that got irritated.
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I feel sorry for the quagmire kids at the special olympics.

I can feel the anger building......
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The problem is the goalposts keep moving.

Nigger was always a bad word, so, Negro (capitalized) became the polite word.

Then negro became racist and the word Coloured became the correct form (AACP?)

Then, that word lost favour and the word Black was used.

Black then got substituted for African American.
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^ so can we go back to niger?
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It is a word often used by a gentleman of dark complexion when refering to the love of his life "You Niger Bitch!"
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^ so can we go back to niger?
If you hold the correct travel documents, visa's and the like, you can go pretty much anywhere you damn well please. Niger included.
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Where did the term 'nigger' originate anyway?
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As a matter of fact I learnt to walk in Nigeria but never been to Niger
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also black in portuguese
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