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Old 10-07-2008, 03:40 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Of course macha and ant will defend it, but what do you expect.
Any single example where I or Ant for that matter have defended it?
You are defending it by defending the religion that condones it.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:43 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Of course macha and ant will defend it, but what do you expect.
Any single example where I or Ant for that matter have defended it?
You are defending it by defending the religion that condones it.
Brilliant. So if you take the rationale to its logical conclusion then if you 'defend' Catholicism you're, by extentsion, defending pedophilia.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:07 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Any single example where I or Ant for that matter have defended it?
none that i see.

and none that have been shown by muslim haters.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:10 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Now I don't wish to be seen to support the actions of the Inquisition however I support and believe in the Teachings of Christ.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:15 PM   #125 (permalink)
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so what. stay on point.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:25 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Of course macha and ant will defend it, but what do you expect.
Any single example where I or Ant for that matter have defended it?
You are defending it by defending the religion that condones it.
Ant already answered it (see the quote below).
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Brilliant. So if you take the rationale to its logical conclusion then if you 'defend' Catholicism you're, by extentsion, defending pedophilia.
You keep on saying that Islam condones such barbaric acts. Have you or any of Islam/Muslim haters, so far, come up with any verse from the Quran that says stone them to death?
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:28 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Like I posted earlier.

Religion notwithstanding, how can a community stand idly by and let men kill their wives and children in the name of honor?

And agree that it was just.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:29 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Who is a Muslim hater that has posted here?

Why would you come to that conclusion?
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You cannot take religion out of the argument
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You cannot take religion out of the argument
but you neednt throw your off point preference into the mix, either.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:34 PM   #132 (permalink)
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The practice of stoning is not mentioned in the Koran, it is only implied in the Hadith in the context of the Prophet Muhammad’s dealings with Jewish Law.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:57 PM   #134 (permalink)
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The practice of stoning is not mentioned in the Koran, it is only implied in the Hadith in the context of the Prophet Muhammad’s dealings with Jewish Law.
According to Muslim scholars any hadith that conflicts with the Quran (or Quranic laws) is not authentic.
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Is there anyone here that would defend pedophilia?

Mach, are these statements true?

More than half of teenage girls in Afghanistan and Bangladesh are married. Ayatollah Khomeini told the Muslim faithful that marrying a girl before she began menstruating was a divine blessing (Quran 65:4)

Iranian girls can get married as young as nine with parental consent and 13 without consent.

For a rape charge under Sharia Law, four witnesses are needed.
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Who is a Muslim hater that has posted here?

Why would you come to that conclusion?
It was a reference to poster(s) who without any, I mean any, proof blame Islam for stoning to death. I hate repeating myself but just for you "Stoning to death is not an Islamic punishment".
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However comments made by the Prophet Muhammed carry strong weight.
The reference is to do with his comments on Deuteronomy
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Four witnesses are required for adultary unless you convict yourself when you have to make the oath 4 times or the same when a wife accuses a husband and vice versa
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What are we talking about guys?

A deep hole is dug in the ground. A 30 year old lady, tied up from feet to shoulders, as a stick, is lowered alive into this hole, in a standing position. Only her neck and head are visible. Can you imagine a human head sticking above ground?

When the order is given, a man throws a fist-sized stone at her protruding head. The stone hits her head with a thud. She screams in pain as the blood oozes down her face. Another man picks up a stone and scraps the side of her head drawing a lateral line of blood. She cries and screams in excruciating pain. Since it is a free for all, a teenage spectator from this open playing field, tries his luck, but misses her head completely. Another aims at her and flings it with force. The stone hits its intended target, her forehead.

She screams and cries loudly for mercy. There is now a gash on her forehead. Blood spurting out, down her eyes, nose, cheeks, mouth and down to the ground. She cries out for mercy but to not avail. The minutes become an hour, between the many misses, scraps, nicks, chips and strikes. Another spectator flings forcefully at her.

The stone hits the bridge of her nose with another thud. She screams again and again. This time the blood comes down from inside and outside her nose. Probably, her nasal bridge-bone is broken, causing the bleeding from inside her nostrils as well. Though her wounds are grave, as you can imagine, her screams by now are not as vociferous as earlier, and her tears help to wash some of the blood on her cheeks. Her vision has completely gone with the blood coating. The next stone hits her again. A piece of flesh pops out. No, its not, oh god, it really can't be her eye-ball. It is so bloody that you can't really make out. By this time, blood has covered her entire face and the ground in front of her. She still makes groaning sounds. More time pass. Stoning her, continues. Her sounds are less and less audible. Her face has become unrecognizable. Flesh, like mashed meat is her face, but only more bloody, as she now literally has no human face. Small strips of flesh, like locks of hair are hanging from her. Her head is now drooping forward. At this stage a hit on her make splashes of blood. She has stopped making a sound for the last two stone pelting. Two hours have passed. The Islamic authorities check her neck for pulse. It is still beating but barely, due to the loss of blood. A flesh piece drops off her head, as the stoning process continues.

Finally, death comes to this lady. She is then left there for a few more hours for the spectators to see, because this is a public lesson for all Muslim females, who commit adultery. Then her father and relatives are allowed to dig her body, and bring it above ground. Pieces of her flesh, lying on the ground, is collected and because she has no face, it is put back on the front of her head, and bundled up. Now readers, imagine that is your mother, or your daughter, or sister, or even you, yourself.
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