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Old 09-07-2008, 05:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
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A few extremists? Howabout the hanging of homosexuals or the hanging of a mentally handicapped minor-aged girl who tempted adult men? The crimes described by the Iranian courts and the executions carried out by the government.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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What kind of religion condones this?
Trick question. The answer is: At one time or another, most all of them.
Who can forget the Spanish Inquisition, eh?
Being stoned to death at the hands of a Muslim or burned at the stake as so many were back then. Difference is Muslims haven't progressed out of the Dark Ages as other folks have...
Actually if the Spanish Royals didn't kick out the Arabs before and during the inquisition the middle East may have been very different now. Prior to that the Arabs were studying science and Greek philosophy. We can thank them for our number system which is Arabic otherwise maths would be very difficult using Roman numerals. After the inquisitions the Imams took advantage of the situation and pushed the Arabs to study Islam thereby solidifying their influence in the Middle East. Something the Catholic church failed to do in Europe where education flourished. That may be part of the reason why the Muslim world is stuck in the past.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:48 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I have the videos of the 16 y/o Kurdish girl being stoned to death, it is sick that her father and uncles do it with many onlookers gawking at her.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:53 AM   #24 (permalink)
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We don't live in the past and this is not history.

Happening everyday in the peaceful world of Islam.
Generalisation. It ain't happening in every Muslim country.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
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We don't live in the past and this is not history.

Happening everyday in the peaceful world of Islam.
Generalisation. It ain't happening in every Muslim country.
No, but it's only Muslim countries that it happens in, and Islam is the only religion that condones such barbaric behavior in this day and age.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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But again, it ain't happening in all Muslim countries. You agree? Christianity doesn't condone this?

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Same can be found in Torah.


... and to polish up your knowledge, stoning to death is not an Islamic punishment. There's no mention of it in the Quran.
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^ Actually Christianity does not!
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:19 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Islam is the only religion that condones such barbaric behavior in this day and age.
What about the other world religions/governments that condone capital punishment? Are they equally barbaric, or less so do to more "humane" methods of execution?

If it's a matter of the difference between death by torture or death by more "humane" methods, I don't think we much justification for claiming the moral high ground.

There's the rub, IMO.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Christians were released from the the law with the New Testament.

So, no Christianity does not condone it as the Jewish law was done away with.


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But again, it ain't happening in all Muslim countries. You agree? Christianity doesn't condone this?

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Same can be found in Torah.


... and to polish up your knowledge, stoning to death is not an Islamic punishment. There's no mention of it in the Quran.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:27 PM   #30 (permalink)
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^ Actually Christianity does not!
Mind shedding some light on the verse I quoted above then?
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Christians were released from the the Law with the New Testament.
Who released them? The Lord or the King?
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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oh shit -- here come the jesus freaks.
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.... along with Mohammed freaks. Should be fun though.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:32 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Who released them? The Lord or the King?
Since you are quoting verses -

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law fro righteousness to everyone that believeth

Jews were not Christians and the Old Testament was for the Jews.
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oh shit -- here come the jesus freaks.
I see you did not say Allah freaks when Mach was quoting the Torah

Ob that proves my point about you and your Mussie fetish
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Jews were not Christians and the Old Testament was for the Jews.
Then why did Jesus and his disciples based their teachings on it? Was Jesus a Jew?
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Jews were not Christians and the Old Testament was for the Jews.
Then why did Jesus and his disciples based their teachings on it? Was Jesus a Jew?
According to my understanding, he was the end of the law.

Yes Jesus was a Jew, but he put an end to the law.

He did not say follow the law, he said follow him.
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Then why did Jesus and his disciples based their teachings on it? Was Jesus a Jew?
According to my understanding, he was the end of the law.

Yes Jesus was a Jew, but he put an end to the law.

He did not say follow the law, he said follow him.
But he himself was following the same laws. A bit of hypocrisy, isn't it?
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fuck jesus. by history, the xians are as violent as the next group.

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