The Thailand expat forum for Travel, Lifestyle and Fun.

obsidian

tis all barbaric. this emphasis on stoning is simply tactical and little more than an effort to do some poo throwing at the muslims.

chitown

Mach and I have had discussions before. he is an adult and does not need you to give him advice. After all here is his quote.

chitown

I have done some reading here.

Understanding the Face Veil

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Texpat

That's idealistic bullshit.

A thief has broken into a man's house and just killed his wife and children. The thief points gun at the man who shoots and kills the thief.

A man strangles his daughter to death with his bare hands because he caught her dating a Westerner.

same?

machangezi

^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.

Milkman

Obs, I see a contradiction above. I am confused. You state it's "barbaric" but then state is is "simply tactical and little more than an effort to do some poo throwing at Muslims."

IMO,

It's not tactical, and not an effort. This stoning is bad behaviour. You're blaming the people who think this is bad?

I'm confused, Obs.

__________________
Military men are dumb, stupid animals, to be used as pawns for foreign policy

Milkman

How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?

chitown

^ Exactamundo Milky!!!!!!!!!!!! It confuses the heck out of me.

machangezi

Do you think a Muslim can not have his/her own point of view?

obsidian

my government kills humanely or without cruelty or unusual punishment (poisoning). another government simply allows the person to me killed by the methodology that is quickest or most deligtful to the agrieved. still another allows for public and gruesome methods in which the public can participate in the killing.

i dont see significant moral differences in the above examples government sanctioned killing.

are we really taking solace in the percetion that we, the west or nonmuslim countries in this case, are more civilized, sophisticted iand more highly developed in our methoology?

we in the west like our state sanctioned killing sweet and socially palatable. so we spend years while the convicted awaits a real verdict as to sentence -- that is very often rooted in the socio-economic status, race and gender of the convicted. and if we kill'em we do it clean, careful and with a nice protocol.

with respect to texpats point above -- he is correct, they are not the same. i am referring to the taking of life subsequent to law of whatever land we are discussing.

Milkman

I am asking you.

Nice dodge.

Please answer my honest question.

obsidian

same as xians. is that so difficult to accept?

obsidian

abortion, capital punishment, homosexulaity, after life -- is there a christian concensus? hell no.

obsidian

murdering a man when there are available alternatives to controlling his behavior, is barbaric. the method used to kill is beside the point.

^ imo

machangezi

Dodge? No, it was a question.

__________________
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do." Samuel P. Huntington


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Texpat

I'm not a Christian, but if there were a branch of Christianity today that stoned and murdered 5,000 people a year in the name of honor, I feel quite sure the other branches of Christianity (and the rest of the world) would step in to stop it. It's called lunatic fringe and must be kept in check by the mainstream. All religions have it.

And no, Obs, before you start hyperventilating, the US government isn't Christian.

machangezi

The US government is Jew.

obsidian

did i miss this somewhere in the thread?

momo8

Nope, they pray to the money and oil god.

Norton

Same Muslim woman in different settings. She is dressed appropriate to the occasion. Seems her Muslim husband is of the same mind as Machangezi regarding her choice of head wear. BTW, she is one of the many who condemn Muslim's who kill in the name of God.

__________________
There is such a thing as a nation being so right that it does not need to convince others by force that it is right.

Woodrow Wilson