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Old 10-07-2008, 06:15 PM   #181 (permalink)
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tis all barbaric. this emphasis on stoning is simply tactical and little more than an effort to do some poo throwing at the muslims.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:15 PM   #182 (permalink)
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^^Ok then what are your dress standards? You can google info Maccha doesn't have to answer you directly what he wears.
Mach and I have had discussions before. he is an adult and does not need you to give him advice. After all here is his quote.

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^^ I won't. I take it as a discussion and I'm hopeful that posters who don't have enough knowledge of Islam learn from this discussion.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:16 PM   #183 (permalink)
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You mean the way Arabs wear?
The Islamic dress code that a women should wear a khimar and a niqab and as for men, I am not sure what the standard is.

That is what i mean when it comes to dress standards.
Oops sorry. Didn't get your point. Let me have a look for Khimar. Will get back at ya.

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Old 10-07-2008, 06:18 PM   #184 (permalink)
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killing is killing is killing
That's idealistic bullshit.

A thief has broken into a man's house and just killed his wife and children. The thief points gun at the man who shoots and kills the thief.

A man strangles his daughter to death with his bare hands because he caught her dating a Westerner.

same?
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:20 PM   #185 (permalink)
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^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.
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tis all barbaric.

this emphasis on stoning is simply tactical and little more than an effort to do some poo throwing at the muslims.
Obs, I see a contradiction above. I am confused. You state it's "barbaric" but then state is is "simply tactical and little more than an effort to do some poo throwing at Muslims."

IMO,

It's not tactical, and not an effort. This stoning is bad behaviour. You're blaming the people who think this is bad?

I'm confused, Obs.
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^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.
How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?
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^ Exactamundo Milky!!!!!!!!!!!! It confuses the heck out of me.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:38 PM   #189 (permalink)
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^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.
How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?
Do you think a Muslim can not have his/her own point of view?
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:46 PM   #190 (permalink)
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my government kills humanely or without cruelty or unusual punishment (poisoning). another government simply allows the person to me killed by the methodology that is quickest or most deligtful to the agrieved. still another allows for public and gruesome methods in which the public can participate in the killing.

i dont see significant moral differences in the above examples government sanctioned killing.

are we really taking solace in the percetion that we, the west or nonmuslim countries in this case, are more civilized, sophisticted iand more highly developed in our methoology?

we in the west like our state sanctioned killing sweet and socially palatable. so we spend years while the convicted awaits a real verdict as to sentence -- that is very often rooted in the socio-economic status, race and gender of the convicted. and if we kill'em we do it clean, careful and with a nice protocol.

with respect to texpats point above -- he is correct, they are not the same. i am referring to the taking of life subsequent to law of whatever land we are discussing.
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^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.
How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?
Do you think a Muslim can not have his/her own point of view?
I am asking you.

Nice dodge.

Please answer my honest question.
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How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?
same as xians. is that so difficult to accept?
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abortion, capital punishment, homosexulaity, after life -- is there a christian concensus? hell no.
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murdering a man when there are available alternatives to controlling his behavior, is barbaric. the method used to kill is beside the point.

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^^ Now from Islamic point of view women must wear hijab to cover her head (not that sack of shit - head to toe). From my point of view it is up to the women to decide.
How can an Islamic point of view (your words) be different from your word, if you are a Muslim?
Do you think a Muslim can not have his/her own point of view?
I am asking you.

Nice dodge.

Please answer my honest question.
Dodge? No, it was a question.
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I'm not a Christian, but if there were a branch of Christianity today that stoned and murdered 5,000 people a year in the name of honor, I feel quite sure the other branches of Christianity (and the rest of the world) would step in to stop it. It's called lunatic fringe and must be kept in check by the mainstream. All religions have it.

And no, Obs, before you start hyperventilating, the US government isn't Christian.
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The US government is Jew.
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did i miss this somewhere in the thread?

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Nope, they pray to the money and oil god.
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Same Muslim woman in different settings. She is dressed appropriate to the occasion. Seems her Muslim husband is of the same mind as Machangezi regarding her choice of head wear. BTW, she is one of the many who condemn Muslim's who kill in the name of God.









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