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DrB0b

Glad to see you've finally realised you have nothing to contribute. Peace out.

DrB0b

Hmm. I see some problems there but nothing particularly difficult for anybody who can read English. Obviously I overestimated your capacities. I would have preferred, as I was responding to you, to have written in Flemish but unfortunately all the Belgian people I could have contacted to help me in preparing a sentence you could understand appear to be doing time for keeping children as sex slaves in their dungeons.

Here's a version of that question edited so as to be slightly more suitable for foreigners, feel free to attempt an answer or slime your way out of it again with another cheap and ineffectual attempt at "humour".

"Where did I say it had anything to do what with you THOUGHT you were?"

btw "on the sauce" is pretty much an exact analogue for "are you drunk?". Have some respect for the punters and at least try to be original.

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Butterfly

ok, I see what you are saying now, I agree mostly. Nice re-edit. That said, you are being a bit "naive" in your response, unfortunately we need label to "describe" behaviors and see what's wrong and what's right on a larger level. Human beings are little monkeys, they think in group and bow to peer pressure when it comes to expression and actions. Think like a right winger, and you will act like one. At the end, your actions are more important than your thinking or intentions.

DrB0b

What re-edit and why did you feel the need to red me for that?

Yes, we need and demand labels but left and right as labels are dumb because their meanings change according to who's assigning or accepting those labels. These are not truthful labels, they are far too broad, I know you like things to be simplistic but real life isn't like that. Left-wing, right-wing, capitalist, and so on change depending on where you stand at the moment, they are not innately truthful labels like black and white or sweet and sour, they have no innate meaning and are thus worthless as labels.

Example from this forum. Jet Gorgon and Texpat are both right wing, self described. TP believes that all of us can claw our way from the mud to the top, opportunities for all but, in the end, it's ability that counts, JG believes that all poor people should remain in the mud to help provide a good life for people like herself. One of those people (TP, for the slow-of-thinking) is right-wing and decent, the other is an animal. If you too were able to see beyond a simplistic labelling system then perhaps you too would see that life isn't black and white and can't be defined by a few simplistic terms devised to control debate and keep the "useful idiots" in their places.

Butterfly

^ ok, you completely missed my point, and yes what you are saying above is absolutely correct, I am not arguing that point.

There is no such thing as a left or a right, but when you are in an ideological war like we have now, with a polarized group making the call, you need to choose a camp and call them for what they are: scum right wing loonies. Technically they are not right wing, they are just loonies, but the polarizing touch is necessary for them to understand that they are on the wrong side of the fence.

DrB0b

So if I am absolutely correct why did you red me for what I said?

Butterfly

^ because you didn't explain yourself, just made a silly comment, only after you re-edit, did your post made sense. Too late I redded you for it

Think of it as a red for laziness, you have have been staying too long in Thailand DrB

Lovely red btw,

Do some of them... 22-06-2008 08:16 PM DrB0b You would be a disgrace to your culture if you had one.

DrB0b

Bubububut, I made no re-edit, do you mean my response? If you do you really should be ashamed for criticising MY English. Shame, Butterfly, SHAME!

Thanks, not too bad considering, I thought, sadly my first comment was way too long for the repo box, that really needs to be fixed.

Butterfly

to answer to your example, Jet is not an animal, she is just confused and barking at the wrong tree, while Texpat is just another simple minded redneck who made a career in the military, not the sharpest tool in the shed, probably a nice guy to go drink with, but not equipped to think on his own without an instruction manual, at the end they share "similar" values and they are both misguided, so it's safe to classify them and put them in the same group without compromising their ideals differences,

Now do you see how simplification can be useful ? it's nothing more than sampling,

Texpat

Simple-minded redneck
Couldn't be further from the truth.

Another absent-minded pigeon-holing characterization by a know-nothing fuckwit who figures he's got the planet sussed.

Dead wrong, Einstein. Strike three, go to bed.

Jet Gorgon

Disagree. Company size matters not -- any biz can be profitable, innovative and good to its employees. Big corps have (in general) set rules in place for accountability and transparency. The only reason socialists hate them is because they only see the bottom line figure and reckon the co should share the wealth they made. Unions wreck the biz, IMO. Look at what they've done to the US auto, steel, and forestry industries. Totally uncompetitive now. That's also why I liked handbag Maggie; tough and smart. Close them unionised coal mines and get into new industry.
I run my own biz, but the govt can take me to task for whatever it wants in my expense lines, which ain't much.

That's getting into the philosophical side, innit? Fundamentals truths? What's right and what's wrong? ie, if a tribe's long-followed custom is to eat its enemies, is it wrong?
Your analyses and evaluations are amusing, Boys, but sadly incorrect. I abhor people who wallow in the muck when they have the ability to better themselves. People who cannot do so need a helping hand, and I will always give one. This goes for Texpat as well, I think. How can you help someone if you yourself have nothing? Ever seen a dole recipient help out? As I have indicated before, I hate lazy sods who think the world or their govt owes them something just because they exist. Waste of oxygen, IMO.

Told Stool

Though I'm a bit of a newbie (less than 300 posts in the almost year I've been on here)...I'll explain my position...

I'm a conservative democrat. This means that I am against environmental criminalism (ala Bush), pro-Iraq war (and Gulf War), anti-late-term-abortion (after five months, which is what John Kerry and I disagreed on), anti-drug (usually).

I don't believe in capital punishment because cultures that have capital punishment vs. cultures that don't have it have been found to have no significant differences in the numbers of violent crimes and murders.

Jet Gorgon

Good views, TS, IMO. How about taxes, welfare, oil, Iran, Michelle/Cindy? Any thoughts?

Told Stool

Thanks Jet. Well, my mike is small and my podium a bit short , but here goes...

Taxes: Yes, Obama has the right idear...tax the wealthy, especially on Social Security. The middle class has been suffering way too much during Republican administrations.

Welfare: Well, it's fair. People who can't work should be provided with more incentives to work. I am staunchly against immigrants getting welfare, except in certain circumstances.

Oil: This is, for lack of a better word, King. America is realizing that they are too dependent on it and steps to create more energy efficient autos are being taken way too late. It's time for the silence from the Bush Administration to environmental scientists with legitimate discoveries to STOP! IMO, Bush should be impeached because of this. Just read on Yahoo! News today that some Americans (above all, right?) are moving from big houses in the country to little apartments in the city because they can't afford to gas up their big cars and eat together anymore. Read about a lady with a big car, big house and yard...now she's driving a small motorcycle to work in the big city and no longer living 60 miles away in the country. The American Dream is definitely shifting in its appearance.

Iran: Well, all leaders say stupid and questionable things.

Michelle/Cindy: Well...I think these are Obama's children?? I'm not sure I like the idea of electing a guy whose middle name is Hussein. That's a joke. And he went to primary school in a Muslim country? Come on! You don't see leaders getting elected in Indonesia coming from America or Denmark and saying "Hey, let's rule this country, man!" His connection with the racial killer Malcolm X is way too great. He should have aligned himself with Martin Luther King Jr. types. IMO, this will make him derail. Malcolm was "by all means necessary," different than the peaceful Martin Luther King Jr. And none of us want violence...right?

For the record, McCain was just seen going to a Baptist church. Where's Obama in all of this? I remember him saying once that he was a believer in Christ.

By the way...I just wanted to add one thing in here if I may: RACE. If Obama became President, I think it sure would reduce a lot of the ulti-segregation that goes on in the States. I can speak from personal experience about the monstrosities of differences that exist, especially between African Americans and Americans of Western European origin.


And for all those like Butterfly who wish to try to give me a red for voicing my opinions .

Lorenzo

LOL.... LOL

Bring a fiscal conservative and a social lefty I am usually without a good choice of candidate

Extremists on both sides are nuts

lysander

Is it necessary to be a Christian to become Prez of the US? I don't mean necessary as in legally obliged but necessary in order to get the vote.

k1klass

I stopped caring a long, long time ago - why care about something you have no control over.

astasinim

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Yep. When you`ve seen what both sides have to offer, and your still paying more taxes, you feel public money is being wasted etc etc etc, then why bother voting. As far as im concerned, polititions are like pigs. They`ve all got their snouts in the trough, and think of themselves first, us last.

Generally speaking (from my experience) people who claim all the benefits and are low income earners, vote to the left.
Those who either work for themselves, better qualifications, or earn above average wages vote to the right.

Those who are stuck in the middle are foked either way.

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I aint superstitious, but I know when somethings wrong
I`ve been dragging my heels with a bitch called hope
Let the undercurrent drag me along.

dobella

liberal/left/right.
i've yet to meet an