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Old 22-06-2008, 11:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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^ Squirrel you must be in Europe or America because it's 9 am in LOS.



One thing I can say that burns me up about capitalism is that it is pro-creation. The world has so many problems and the world's politicians seem to be silent about the overpopulation issue. Capitalism is just another type of pyramid scheme that needs people to fill the lower ranks to survive. So hardline capitalists in my view will not bring up a word for reducing the human population on the planet. They are in bed with the religious wackos.
Who's going to pay the taxes to fund the programs? Corporations? Where do they get their income from? The government? Where does the government get it's revenue from? The corporations? Suddenly, I feel so obsolete.
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Old 22-06-2008, 11:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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My governement decucted 52% on my income(taxes, social security,solidarity contributions....) and this during 32 years, now I am retired and paid by my governement but they still deduct 20% , of course there are misuses, some people will benefit from this system but I am sure they are not the majority.
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Old 22-06-2008, 11:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Dunno, Sabang. Look at China-based companies -- no comps, benefits or rights for workers. Capitalist?
Absolutely, a great example Jet- self described Communist China in actuality has a much more Laissez Faire business regulatory environment than the West. It is gradually changing of course- many Chinese are sick (literally) of wallowing in their own filth. It is more reminiscent of our Laissez Faire economies of the late 19th century than the Democratic West today. And like the West before it, I expect it will change to a more regulated environment over time.
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Old 22-06-2008, 11:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
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^ True, Sabang. Not much govt regs to help the workers. Don't think its changing, tho. The owners just focus on cash flow. Screw the workers -- plenty more where they came from.
^^ Doesn't always happen, Lambik. If the safety net is there, lots of folks will use it and let the doers create and generate and pay taxes to support them. Yep, I pay big taxes, too.
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Old 22-06-2008, 12:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Capitalism within a Framework- not Laissez Faire Capitalism, in short.
That's basically what modern socialism is about, responsible capitalism, not shotgun "laissez faire" capitalism
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Old 22-06-2008, 12:29 PM   #26 (permalink)
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^ A bit far fetched there, BF. IMHO of course. Please lend an example.
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Old 22-06-2008, 01:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Wanted to contribute to this thread but couldn't find the words to respond to phrases about lazy faries and liberals having that nice fussy feeling about giving lower less deserving people a job..
ps: what's wrong with MRs wacking off at 9.00am is that too late or early in LOS??
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Old 22-06-2008, 01:38 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 22-06-2008, 03:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
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^ A bit far fetched there, BF
not really, under most modern "socialist" (liberal for US) system, small businesses are favored over big businesses as they are the driving force behind employment, while big corporation are usually regarded as poor employers,

Big corporations need to be heavily taxed and regulated, and unionized, and subsidize basically our society, while individuals, and small corporations should enjoy complete freedom,
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well I dress to the left, what does that make me?
Right handed. When it come to a piss you hold your dick in your right hand or haven't you noticed ?
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I don't know which of them I am and I have absolutely no interest in politics.

Thats why I avoid Issues and it's always disappointing to find something like this in the Lounge.
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Old 22-06-2008, 04:52 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thats why I avoid Issues and it's always disappointing to find something like this in the Lounge.
Look again.
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I try to be a decent human being, I have no idea where left and right wing come into that but I do know that the majority of people who need to assign labels to themselves and others before they can see what's right and what's wrong are not decent human beings.
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^ Right said, Fred... err Bob.
I'm a level-headed, reasonable sort. And if you don't agree with me, you're merely flat-out wrong.

Ain't so hard to figure out, is it?

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I try to be a decent human being, I have no idea where left and right wing come into that but I do know that the majority of people who need to assign labels to themselves and others before they can see what's right and what's wrong are not decent human beings.
a bit of an easy response here from you DrB, a bit disappointing. I am sure Polpot and Mao thought they were doing the right thing and were decent human beings,

the definition of right and wrong is exactly the heart of the problem,
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but I do know that the majority of people who need to assign labels to themselves and others before they can see what's right and what's wrong are not decent human beings.
I feel the need to respond but something tells me I'd be wasting my time.
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I try to be a decent human being, I have no idea where left and right wing come into that but I do know that the majority of people who need to assign labels to themselves and others before they can see what's right and what's wrong are not decent human beings.
a bit of an easy response here from you DrB, a bit disappointing. I am sure Polpot and Mao thought they were doing the right thing and were decent human beings,

the definition of right and wrong is exactly the heart of the problem,
Where did I have to say it had anything to do with with you THOUGHT you were? Your response bears absolutely no relation to what I wrote, are you drunk again? So you tell us, what has moral or ethical behaviour got to do with labels? I understand that you're Belgian, a label synonomous with being a [at][at][at][at], I however don't believe you're a [at][at][at][at] and prefer to judge you on your own merits. Are you telling me that I'm wrong and that regardless of the complexities of human nature I should judge you by that label and nothing else?
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Where did I have to say it had anything to do with with you THOUGHT you were?
English please ? on the sauce again ?
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