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Morden · 20-06-2008, 07:34 PM

A Lancashire teenager has been jailed for three years after his father informed police he had found bullets in his son's bedroom.
His father discovered 11 bullets in the room and called the police - who also found a handgun under the bed.
Paul Metcalfe, 19, from Nelson, pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon and the ammunition at Burnley Crown Court.
His father Neil Metcalfe, 43, said he had "no regrets" about his decision to call the police.

Source: BBC website news

Would you do that to your son? Would it cure him or turn him against you and into a worse criminal?. If you would do it, how minor would the crimes need to be? If you would not do it, why not?

Nawty · 20-06-2008, 07:41 PM

Don't think I could ever do it.

Certainly not for having bullets and a gun, thats just pathetic. Maybe the father was a molestor and wife beater and he was worried son would off him in his sleep.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 08:13 PM

I'd never do it because I have absolutely no faith in the system. So, my son goes to jail and comes out a bigger and better crim. with an understanding of the depravities of mankind.
It's easy to say but if I could I'd get him/her out of the environment into some thing harsh but safe and show him the "other side". i.e refugee camps in Sudan etc.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nawty

Maybe the father was a molestor and wife beater and he was worried son would off him in his sleep.

What a fascile comment.

buriramboy · 20-06-2008, 08:20 PM

Want a cnut, his father could just have disposed of the gun and bullets or handed them in annonymously to the police, but grassing up your own son and costing him 3 years of his life when he is only 19, i say again what a coont.

Morden · 20-06-2008, 08:21 PM

Jack Straw, one of the Labour Party's stranger elite, once shopped his son for having, I think, cannabis. Actually marched the lad to the pig sty himself and made sure the newspapers knew about it. It was to protect the old boy's political career though, so it was all right to shaft his son's own career chances.

kingwilly · 20-06-2008, 08:23 PM

but 3 years sounds bladdy harsh....

I wouldnt grass him up though.

Morden · 20-06-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

Want a cnut, his father could just have disposed of the gun and bullets or handed them in annonymously to the police, but grassing up your own son and costing him 3 years of his life when he is only 19, i say again what a coont.

About 18 months with time off for good behaviour. Just long enough to to become a real criminal with a sore backside. Teenagers in British prisons must be sought after meat.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Morden

Jack Straw, one of the Labour Party's stranger elite, once shopped his son for having, I think, cannabis. Actually marched the lad to the pig sty himself and made sure the newspapers knew about it. It was to protect the old boy's political career though, so it was all right to shaft his son's own career chances.

True, but the son has done well out of it as well. No time inside with the various anal investigations that that involves. Basically all he got was a slap on the wrist and he's dined out on it ever since. The boy's connected. I'm 100% sure it didn't effect his future career in any way. Probably did him good.

Nothing like this situation.

kingwilly · 20-06-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jandajoy

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Originally Posted by Morden

Jack Straw, one of the Labour Party's stranger elite, once shopped his son for having, I think, cannabis. Actually marched the lad to the pig sty himself and made sure the newspapers knew about it. It was to protect the old boy's political career though, so it was all right to shaft his son's own career chances.

True, but the son has done well out of it as well. No time inside with the various anal investigations that that involves. Basically all he got was a slap on the wrist and he's dined out on it ever since. The boy's connected. I'm 100% sure it didn't effect his future career in any way. Probably did him good.

Nothing like this situation.

almost exactly the same thing happened to me when I was 17. except me old man didnt have a political career to protect, and he also consulted our family lawyer first to check the consequences.

scared the shit outta me. some community service and I've been on the straight and narrow ever since.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kingwilly

almost exactly the same thing happened to me when I was 17. except me old man didnt have a political career to protect, and he also consulted our family lawyer first to check the consequences. scared the shit outta me. some community service and I've been on the straight and narrow ever since.

Me too but it's not something I go on about. 100% in agreement with you though

Bluecat · 20-06-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Morden

Would you do that to your son?

Never.
My sons are my responsabilty for as long as they live with me.
I'll go to jail before I'll send them to it.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 09:11 PM

More fool you.

kingwilly · 20-06-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jandajoy

Me too but it's not something I go on about.

didnt really think i was going on about it.... but whatever.

jandajoy · 20-06-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kingwilly

didnt really think i was going on about it.... but whatever.

I wasn't implying you were. No offence meant.

Ivor Biggun · 20-06-2008, 09:21 PM

Any one that didn't turn in the son would be a prat in my opinion. The boy needs help and covering for him wont help. A short sharp lesson will bring him to his senses, hopefully.

kingwilly · 20-06-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

A short sharp lesson will bring him to his senses,

FFS - 3 years in jail is hardly a short sharp sentence, is it?

lom · 20-06-2008, 09:33 PM

3 years for having an illegal gun and ammunition? There must be more to it..

Bluecat · 20-06-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

Any one that didn't turn in the son would be a prat in my opinion.

Well any son who does that, the father is a prat in my opinion.
Why should the son pay for it?

Ivor Biggun · 20-06-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kingwilly

FFS - 3 years in jail is hardly a short sharp sentence, is it?

In a Britsih jail it would appear to be.

20-06-2008, 07:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Morden Nakhon Ratchasima Last Online: 23-09-2008 05:57 PM Join Date: May 2008 Location: Korat Posts: 249	Son Jailed After Father's Tip Off A Lancashire teenager has been jailed for three years after his father informed police he had found bullets in his son's bedroom. His father discovered 11 bullets in the room and called the police - who also found a handgun under the bed. Paul Metcalfe, 19, from Nelson, pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon and the ammunition at Burnley Crown Court. His father Neil Metcalfe, 43, said he had "no regrets" about his decision to call the police. Source: BBC website news Would you do that to your son? Would it cure him or turn him against you and into a worse criminal?. If you would do it, how minor would the crimes need to be? If you would not do it, why not?

20-06-2008, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
jandajoy Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:46 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 8,372	I'd never do it because I have absolutely no faith in the system. So, my son goes to jail and comes out a bigger and better crim. with an understanding of the depravities of mankind. It's easy to say but if I could I'd get him/her out of the environment into some thing harsh but safe and show him the "other side". i.e refugee camps in Sudan etc. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

20-06-2008, 07:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nawty Elite Member Last Online: Today 05:49 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,697	Don't think I could ever do it. Certainly not for having bullets and a gun, thats just pathetic. Maybe the father was a molestor and wife beater and he was worried son would off him in his sleep.

20-06-2008, 08:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
buriramboy Elite Member Last Online: Today 05:04 PM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nern Plub Waan Posts: 1,900	Want a cnut, his father could just have disposed of the gun and bullets or handed them in annonymously to the police, but grassing up your own son and costing him 3 years of his life when he is only 19, i say again what a coont.

20-06-2008, 08:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Morden Nakhon Ratchasima Last Online: 23-09-2008 05:57 PM Join Date: May 2008 Location: Korat Posts: 249	Jack Straw, one of the Labour Party's stranger elite, once shopped his son for having, I think, cannabis. Actually marched the lad to the pig sty himself and made sure the newspapers knew about it. It was to protect the old boy's political career though, so it was all right to shaft his son's own career chances.

20-06-2008, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
kingwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 23,300	but 3 years sounds bladdy harsh.... I wouldnt grass him up though.

20-06-2008, 09:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
jandajoy Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:46 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 8,372	More fool you.

20-06-2008, 09:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ivor Biggun Elite Member Last Online: 28-09-2008 10:23 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Buriram Province out in the sticks Posts: 1,918	Any one that didn't turn in the son would be a prat in my opinion. The boy needs help and covering for him wont help. A short sharp lesson will bring him to his senses, hopefully.

20-06-2008, 09:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
lom Elite Member Last Online: Today 05:20 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Koh Samui Posts: 4,158	3 years for having an illegal gun and ammunition? There must be more to it..