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Marmite the Dog

Sorry, I must have been thinking about the good old days before Blair fucked things up again in typical Labour fashion.

Boon Mee

Living Large in Socialized Housing

Britain shows us that socialism works as efficiently in housing as it does in everything else:

Mother-of-seven Toorpakai Saiedi, 35, receives £170,000 a year in benefits — a staggering £150,000 of which is paid to a private landlord for the rent of their seven-bedroom house in West London.
The detached property in Acton has two large reception rooms, two kitchens, a dining room and a 100ft garden.

Ealing Council is picking up the £12,458 a month bill — which is nearly five times the rent for a similar property in the same road.

It's not all roses for Toorpakai, an Afghan asylum seeker whose estranged husband drives a taxi. Her son Jawad complains:

Some of the rooms in England we would not even put our chickens in because they are so small.

Jawad is a student who admits to spending most of his time driving around or playing snooker. He's philosophical about the fairness of living like royalty on the backs of British taxpayers:

When the council chose to put us here we did not say no. If someone gave you a lottery jackpot would you leave it?

But society's ability to pay out housing jackpots to parasites is limited — as Americans have already learned thanks to the subprime crisis that is crippling our economy."

No shit, Sherlock...

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ItsRobsLife

^This is quite a big story in some of the more sensationalist tabloids.
No doubt they will now be hounded out of their accomodation just to satisfy the bloodlust whipped up by the press.

But surely it is the council officials that should be in the spotlight for this.
After all if you were offered this accomodation would you turn it down?

The hypocricy that went straight over the readers heads is that at the same time the press are highlighting this scourge of the benefits system, the government is pumping £400 billion into the economy so all those rich bankers can afford to stay in their mansions.

There are no rules in the UK, it's everyone for themselves native and immigrant alike.

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Jet Gorgon

^ Oh, so the UK is as bad as the US? Huh. About time able-bodied people were told to go get a job.
I cannae understand folks like Bfly and Robski, who think welfare folks should get a free ride from people who are out fulfilling their dreams, working hard, making businesses, creating jobs, and ultimately making money. Follow their way, why bother going to uni or following your dreams? Fek! The govt (ie, the guys who made money and pay taxes) in the socialist states will give the lackeys free homes, support their kids, healthcare, whatever. I will never be a loser like that.

Butterfly

^ try harder Jet, C-

flash

what way will you be a loser then?

ItsRobsLife

^^^
Hey Jet, why don't you try reading what I said before making your innane conclusions about me.
Holding a grudge for so long is really childish.

You're trying to make like such a hard-arse radical but all you sound like is a naiive teenager. Why don't you just stick to what you know. Making cakes. Seriously.

Perhaps if you took the time to think about what your saying before actually typing it, and stopped trying to turn your difference of opinion on subjects into personal attacks people might be interested in what you have to say.

You're not as clued up on politics and social issues as you think Jet, but you are clearly bitter and hateful.

Now toodle off back to the cooking forum and see if you can lick someones bowl.

Butterfly

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HermantheGerman

When you consider that:

That 40% of the world population is driven to poverty due to illness...a little socialism isn't too bad after all.


"Germany has the world's oldest universal care system and is arguably the most successful. Like Americans, most Germans get their health coverage through their employers. But Germany's rich pay higher premiums to subsidize insurance for the poor — a principle the Germans call "solidarity."



Health Insurance Bill of 1883

The first bill that had success was the Health Insurance bill, which was passed in 1883. The program was considered the least important from Bismarck’s point of view, and the least politically troublesome. The program was established to provide health care for the largest segment of the German workers. The health service was established on a local basis, with the cost divided between employers and the employed. The employers contributed 1/3rd, while the workers contributed 2/3rds . The minimum payments for medical treatment and Sick Pay for up to 13 weeks were legally fixed. The individual local health bureaus were administered by a committee elected by the members of each bureau, and this move had the unintended effect of establishing a majority representation for the workers on account of their large financial contribution. This worked to the advantage of the Social Democrats who – through heavy Worker membership – achieved their first small foothold in public administration.

benlovesnuk

you need communism just as you need capitalism it seems, they are juxtaposed in the world economy to support each other, but of course people see it as a way to be part of one and demonize the other. There of course are others that now see a timely improved understanding which is complimentary to a downfall of both the above situations, which allows for an apparent move to something better.

In truth, if i can use such a word, no one system helps, there is never an ideal or relevant solution to such a complex order of things as a whole. They must be tackled on a individual base, to which all parties can respond for the benefit of the whole.

This is being borne out in the EU meeting at the moment by all relevant parties, where the richer countries have supposed a plan to help the crisis, and the poorer countries cannot live up to such demands. It shows that a state system cannot work for and towards the best interest of a devision between the rich and poor on any scale.

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Spin

Oil has fallen nearly 50% from its high of 147$ to its price now of 72$ so its price is not "high" in the context of recent prices. The rise to 147$ has clearly been demonstrated to have had nothinng to do with supply and demand but simply manipulation in the futures markets and the rising of the value of the dollar against a basket of major world currencies.