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Old 26-04-2008, 03:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello All, Am here on invite from a member & thought no better way to break the ice so to speak than post an article from the Patriot Post. Unfortunatly since am new member cannot post links as yet.
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No ObamaNation Part 3: Another Marx brother

By Mark Alexander
After her Pennsylvania primary victory, The wicked witch Hildebeast is still swinging, but unless she can win 60 percent of delegates in the remaining primaries (unlikely) and turn more than half of the remaining superdelegates her way prior to the convention, her bid is done.
The Democrats are thus stuck with Obama, the handpicked protègè of UberLeftist Demo-gogues
Obama fever is now breaking among moderate Democrats, reducing the odds that he can beat in the general election, but if the Democrat National Committee takes action to derail his campaign, the party would implode.
At this point, the Demo elite are prepared to sacrifice the presidency knowing that their majorities in the House and Senate will still carry water for their constituencies of But given Obama’s mesmerizing effect on the proletariat, he may be down but certainly not out.
Barack Obama is the most radical Leftist to ever make it this far in a presidential primary. In Part 2 of this series I summarized the influence of his religious mentor for the last two decades, black supremacist Jeremiah Wright.
This week’s essay will provide insight into Obama’s political mentors, all protagonists of Marxist-inspired anti-American movements. If a man can be judged by the company he keeps, Obama should be judged harshly. He may be a “closet smoker,” but as more of his mentors are smoked out of his closet, it becomes increasingly clear that Obama is just another posing as an all-American.
For starters, consider Obama’s friends and neighbors, William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.
Ayers and Dohrn were leaders of the Weather Underground, a violent group of radical Leftovers from the Revolutionary Youth Movement, a wing of Students for a Democratic Society. Ayers and Dohrn split from the Maoist RYM, insisting that a revolution against the United States and capitalists everywhere should commence immediately.
In 1969, Ayers and Dohrn were founding signatories of the Weathermen’s declaration of unification with the “Black Liberation Movement” and other “anti-colonial” vanguards, to ensure “the destruction of U.S. imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world Communism.”
In 1970 the Weather Underground issued a “Declaration of a State of War” against the United States and commenced a campaign of terror including bombings, jailbreaks, and the instigation of riots. Between 1969 and 1975, they bombed the U.S. Capitol twice, the Pentagon, the Department of State and several federal courthouses. They also attacked state and local government buildings and “capitalist targets” such as banks. The terrorist organization began to disband after the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam and the fall of Saigon, though one of their last acts of violence was a Brinks robbery in 1981, in which two police officers and a security guard were murdered during that robbery.
Ayers and Dohrn scurried underground in 1970, after a bomb being constructed in New York to kill Army officers at Fort Dix detonated prematurely, killing three fellow Weathermen. (In the jargon of bomb technicians and investigators, this is known as “self solving.”)
They surrendered to authorities a decade later but were never prosecuted because of “improper” FBI surveillance methods. Ayers is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and Dohrn is an associate professor of law at Northwestern University. Isn’t that special.
Asked about his association with Ayers, Obama said, “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood... who I know... He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” So, he only exchanges ideas with him on an irregular basis?
Obama added the disclaimer that he was only eight years old when Ayers was bombing buildings. However, Obama was 40 when an unrepentant Ayers told The New York Times, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.” (No small irony that interview was published on 11 September 2001.)
For her part, Dohrn once offered the following assessment of the Manson family murders: “Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into [pregnant actress Sharon Tate’s] stomach! Wild!”
Nonetheless, Obama has maintained his association with Ayers and Dohrn, and the connection goes quite a bit deeper than just neighborhood proximity.
Ayers and Dohrn actually hosted the party to launch Obama’s successful 1996 Illinois State Senate campaign at their fashionable Hyde Park home, a campaign endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America. Incidentally, the DSA would later note in a newsletter that State Senator Obama gave the eulogy for socialist Saul Mendelson, a “champion” of the “democratic left.”
Obama and Ayers also served together on the Woods Fund board, which, incidentally, awarded $6,000 to Obama’s “pastor,” Jeremiah Wright, noting the grant was “in recognition of Barack Obama’s contributions to Woods Fund as a director.” This is the same board that supports such anti-Semitic organizations as the Arab-American Action Network.
A more in-depth look at Obama reveals he may indeed be a “hard-core academic Marxist” as accused by his 2004 Senate campaign opponent, and sacrificial lamb, Alan Keyes.
Obama admits to having attended “socialist conferences” as a “community organizer” in Chicago in the late 1980s, where he broke bread with Democratic Socialists of America lefties—also with full-circle connections to William Ayers.
But that is hardly the extent of Obama’s fascination with Marxist ideology.
According to my colleague, Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in Media editor and president of the UN watchdog group America’s Survival, Obama was mentored for most of his formative years by black radical Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA member. Obama had “a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis,” writes Kincaid.
In his book, Dreams from My Father, Obama refers to “Frank” repeatedly, and said that Davis “and his old Black Power dashiki self” was still mentoring him as late as 1979, when he was a student in California. Davis warned Obama that college would give him “an advanced degree in compromise” and not to “start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that s**t.”
Kincaid notes that a CPUSA devotee recently said of Obama’s political fortunes, “Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.”
Obama’s record speaks for itself. In 2006, Senator Obama campaigned for the re-election of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who openly lists his party affiliation as “Socialist.” Sanders applauded freshman Sen. Obama as “one of the great leaders of the United States Senate,” and understandably so. Last year, National Journal, which rates members of Congress strictly by their voting records, ranked Obama as the single most liberal member of the Senate—a remarkable “achievement,” given the Socialist bona fides of the aforementioned Sanders.
When questioned why he refuses to wear an American flag on his lapel, Obama said, “I won’t wear it on my chest. It’s a substitute for... true patriotism. You show your patriotism by being true to our values and ideals.”
No doubt, the true colors of Obama’s “values and ideals” are bright red.

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“Obama is part of a long tradition on the left of being for the working class in the abstract, or as people potentially useful for the purposes of the left, but having disdain or contempt for them as human beings. Karl Marx said, ‘The working class is revolutionary or it is nothing.’ In other words, they mattered only in so far as they were willing to carry out the Marxist agenda. Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw included the working class among the ‘detestable’ people who ‘have no right to live.’ He added: ‘I should despair if I did not know that they will all die presently, and that there is no need on earth why they should be replaced by people like themselves’.”
On cross-examination

“It is worth remembering that in the end Alger Hiss and his ‘glittering’ legion of tittering, elitist, snobbish supporters finally lost, although at great cost to those who challenged them. [i]t was ‘the plain men and women’ who carried the day. In time, they will do so again when they get Obama’s underlying philosophy in focus. They will get the core of Barack Obama just as... they got Alger Hiss.” —Jeffrey Lord
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“America elected Jimmy Carter 32 years ago and is still paying the price. Suppose history repeats: Obama wins and has a failed one-term presidency. Will he be jetting around the world meeting with terrorists and despots and denouncing America in 2040? Maybe not, but the thought gives us a shudder.” —James Taranto
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Old 26-04-2008, 03:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Strawman mug-slinging; standard-fare stuff.

If guilt-by-association is the criterea, I can already think of some people GWB and the Republicans wished they never shook hands with...
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not at all, Binky. There are some serious questions that must be asked and answers given before we trust someone like Obama in the WH.
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You mean "a blackie" right?
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You mean "a blackie" right?
Don't go puttin' no BS words in my mouth there Spin. His skin color don't mean shit to me - it's his politics that bother...
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Obama's skin color is neither a qualification or a disqualification.
America is clearly ready for a "black" president.
Unfortunately for Obama one of his only qualifications is the fact that he's black.
Obama gave a very inspiring speech at the 2004 DNC.
On the weight of that one speech he finds himself tasting the nomination.
It's remarkable that the liberal media has blindly made Obama the democratic "Messiah".
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Boon Mee got it right about questions need to be answered. As it stands now the questions are being asked & we get no answers other than a change is needed, Neither of the liberal socialist candidates have any answers except to raise taxes, The omnipotent bandaid that cures all problems while creating a host of new ones.
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Obama's skin color is neither a qualification or a disqualification. America is clearly ready for a "black" president. Unfortunately for Obama one of his only qualifications is the fact that he's black. Obama gave a very inspiring speech at the 2004 DNC. On the weight of that one speech he finds himself tasting the nomination. It's remarkable that the liberal media has blindly made Obama the democratic "Messiah".
It's America's percieved guilt that has pushed him to the front..if he was 100% white he would be nowhere
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to raise taxes, The omnipotent bandaid that cures all problems while creating a host of new ones.

Meanwhile, exempting taxes for the corporate puppeteers has brought us nothing but an unending Utopia. What would happen if select major corporations got of the welfare wagon and actually paid a modicum of tax? Maybe we could actually reduce the burden on the middle class, which appears to pay for everything now.
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It's America's percieved guilt that has pushed him to the front..if he was 100% white he would be nowhere
He did make that speech in 2004 and people found out he could speak some actual English and not just Ebonics so then it turned into what Carnwad says.

And if he wins then you all think back to what a useless asshole Carter was and what a spendy asshole Bush was and just dream and wish for the old days.
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Some friends of my brother, who he visits frequently in America put a slightly different angle on it.

"Over my dead body" is the phrase they use.
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What are they going to do, start lynching people?

If he gets the votes - he's in.

Looks like he might pull it off, too.
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“Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.”
Pity McCarthy is not around to mercilessly expose and root out these 'moles' - true patriotism is required to combat the relentless red threat.

Obama is an extremely cunning modern version of a mole, on Castro's payroll, no doubt. So cunning in fact, that there isn't the slightest evidence.

But he's left a visible trail on his treacherous path towards communist rule in the US: we know he visited terrorist Ayer's house six years ago, and have witness accounts that he wore red socks more than once in his student days.
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I find it interesting, in a way, that extreme right-wingers can't bring themselves to address the opposition civilly. I'm referring to the "wicked witch Hildebeast" label. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that the Klansman - pardon me - OP didn't refer to Obama as Osama.
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